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#1 Nov 12 2007 at 9:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Time of Forum Death: Oct 12th 2007 2:09am

One month since the last post.
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#2 Nov 13 2007 at 6:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Time of Forum Death: Oct 12th 2007 2:09am

One month since the last post.


The game looks magnificent, game play itself isnt all that bad, but, perhaps the genre is already a little bit too crowded. The fact it was released unfinished didnt help, nor the transfer to 'they who cannot be named'
Bad timing, Bad luck, call it what you will. The game should have been more popular than it was, unfortunately its quite likely that any players that might have been tempted to try Vanguard, were taken by LOTRO. Perhaps the game might have an upturn at some point in the future, but it would take a decent magazine review to do it.

#3 Nov 14 2007 at 10:08 AM Rating: Default
Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that the Vanguard forums here are dead, and it has nothing to do with Vanguard itself. Honestly, why would any playing Vanguard even visit this site unless they were looking up information for other games. The other internet sites around that actually have Vanguard content are still pretty popular. Until Allakhazam actually puts up Vanguard content, no one playing Vanguard is even going to bother with these forums.
#4 Nov 15 2007 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
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If Vangard was in any way successful, then im sure that allakhazam would have done just that, as it is, what would be the point exactly? There are other more popular games that are more than adequately covered, and justly so. Yes its a shame what happened to Vangard, but what can you do, it is as it is.
#5 Nov 19 2007 at 8:21 AM Rating: Good
I agree with the other poster, I have had a premium account with alla for about 6 years I think now, maybe more can't remember when I started my account. I had so many of the pages linked to favorites and would visit it pretty much on a daily basis in line with my playing EQ1. But I have now moved to Vanguard and there now is no reason to visit the site. I have to go to 5 different other sites and try and find the information. I no longer have a premium account as I no longer play EQ1.

I and many others on Vanguard wish alla would support the game as alla has always been known as the best resource for other games they support. The layout, design, link capabilities and responses from players has always been huge. Currently there are no other sites out there I have found that even come close to that sort for information on vanguard or that organization Alla has. Currently we have one site to search a database but information is sparse and not very linked together, there’s a forum mainly used for crafting so it means searching threw posts to find information (although a wiki is being designed), then there’s another site and wiki for diplo that is heavily used.

I personally believe if alla was to reconsider they could maybe get a large population of vanguard to actively use their site and contrary to gossip vanguard is actually gaining many new members each day, the amount of nooby questions in general is an obvious example of this. The game is new and yes ok the 8 year olds with a limited attention span may have lost interest but there are still many more staying and joining each day. Also the game no runs so much smoother, I used to run at about 15FPS up to about a max of 25FPS now if I hit 20FPS I’m going slow and in middle of mass pvp or a crowded city, average for me now is about 35FPS and I never upgraded even memory on my PC when I switched games so I am running pretty slow compared to most, my pc hasn't been updated for 3 years, only have a Athlon 64bit 3000+ only running at 1.8ghz, 1gig ram, and a little geforce 6600 256 card. They have added a large amount of content, quests and more, many bugs have been fixed, balancing of characters is still coming along but on a pvp I know people will always moan that they are not fully balanced, its part of pvp.

Saying all of that I played EQ1 for over 7 years and I could say much the same issues occurred even 7 years on, still certain areas were lagging, had to upgrade my pc eventually when expansions and upgrades became too much, pvp balancing was always out, there were enough bugs, patches to fix their patches and all the rest of that fun stuff, people just need to be patient and if they don't have patience then maybe a game that involves hours of questing, leveling and gaming is not the best for them, maybe a nice 30 min game of red alert 2 would be better suited.

Anyway that’s just my 2cents from a 7 year EQ1 4 boxer gamer who moved to Vanguard in March (PvP servers all the way threw on both games)
75 War - EQ
75 Dru - EQ
75 Chanter - EQ
75 Cleric - EQ
45 DK - Vanguard
45 Mineralogist, 38 Weaponsmith, 28 Tailor, 24 Armoursmith and a 38 Diplomat - Vanguard


Edited, Nov 19th 2007 8:38am by NightAngel
#6 Nov 20 2007 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
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If vanguard was at all successful i'd agree, but its not, so why bother. other websites, like Silky venom etc, that cover vanguard are not exactly overworked either. It would take a mass marketing campaign by SOE to improve things. the fact that it takes a fairly high end machine to play vanguard with halfway reasonable graphics, doesnt help. Fact is, Vanguard now is just another one of SOE's catalogue of low population games, along with eq1&2 planetside and swg, and matrix online that is. Reality is, there really is no incentive for allakhazam to do more for Vanguard than they are already doing. And with so many other games that are more mainstream, i can imagine that Allakhazams resources are pretty much tied up with those.
#7 Feb 01 2008 at 2:56 PM Rating: Decent
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cloudancer wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Time of Forum Death: Oct 12th 2007 2:09am

One month since the last post.

Bad timing, Bad luck, call it what you will.


It wasn't bad timing or bad luck.
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