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Wait wait wait...


Does this means Zelda's aerial side smash got a mega downgrade ?

EDIT: I read more closely... **** yeah. That's my Zelda.


I always main Zelda/Sheik (mostly Zelda. She @#%^in' rocks) Then Ness, and occasionally Mewtwo. I think in BB I'll be a Zelda/Lucario/???

My friends always play: Peach, Dr. Mario, Samus, and Kirby.

(I should have been in this thread sooner...)

Edited, Mar 8th 2008 2:19pm by Codyy

I don't have my Wii yet, because UPS is fail. I'll have it soon though.


By the way, just got back from 6 hours of playing SSBB... It's pretty fun... I enjoy it.

err...when is Allegory was it? hosting that tourney? Would it be alright to give us...a week or so to get good at the game?

I wants to play too, but I forgot to order one for myself. So I'll check the mall this week I guess.

By the way Allegory, how did you do in the tournament?

I use the gamecube, but what I really am talking about is 1) the lack of what are now very commonly employed strategic glitches and 2) the physics engine which makes you move as if drunk.

I'll play brawl and enjoy every minute of it, but when I want to get serious and really test my skill against someone else I'll have to bring out melee. It's not as if Nintendo made a bad game or anything, but I don't see why they had to **** with perfection (melee's physics) so much.

I don't think it's much to expect at all, especially if anyone on the development team knew anything at all about how competitive melee was played. Perhaps getting rid of the wavedash was okay (though I really don't see why; it's a hell of a lot better than that stupid roll/dodge) but getting rid of something even so simple as the crouch cancel was foolish. That one even made sense if you think about it: lower your center of gravity and you won't get hit as far. I am enjoying the reverse jump thingy that was posted earlier (its awesome for Ike, because his backwards A in the air is one of his fastest moves, so a reverse short jump can take people off guard). There's no way that these guys could be ignorant as to the strategies of players for years, and if they weren't aware then they are just oblivious to their fanbase and need a different job.

Some of those glitches were even in the first game. L-canceling was even more effective on the 64; instead of reducing lag it totally eliminated it. As it stands now the hard cap on the amount of moves available to a character is drastically reduced. Even if none of this **** was intended in melee, it made the game perhaps the most technical and in-depth fighter ever made. Something like that shouldn't just be destroyed.

Who knows? Maybe we'll find some other universally applicable glitches that will make brawl better than as it is now.

But that's not my only criticism.



That, is my biggest criticism.

There is definitely some delay that can get annoying at times, although it is certainly bearable and I'd rather have it than not have online at all. Twas fun Catt, cept that last game where you got the smash ball twice when I clearly should have gotten it .

Himmel I'll wait at least a week before trying to get people together for an Alla tourney for everyone to get the game, unlock their characters, and become familiar with it.

As for the Gamestop Tourney I made it to the semifinals, but lost there. I was D3 against ICs. I got first blood, then died, and then we ended up in SD and I lost. I fudge shielding a lot by accidentally hitting jump; I don't much care for the wiimote and nunchuck. Nice to finally have a GC controller.

Pensive I would agree that so far Brawl looks to have much less depth than Melee, but I'm sure as time passes we will see the game develop a bit more. Maybe not to Melee's level, but it is difficult to nail the formula twice.

So far my biggest gripe is aerial movement. I'm not against a floaty aerial game, but characters seem to move incredibly slow horizontally.


I don't have my Wii connected online yet, but tomorrow I should be picking up a lan adapter and able to play online with some of you.

Yes yes I know, and I'm trying to make myself be patient with it. It's one of those completely irrational gripes that is correct, yet misses the forest for the trees. It's such a fun game so far, but you know... Like I say, it's a fantastic game but in retrospect I probably couldn't help but be disappointed at whatever followed melee, expectations and such.

I am loving the reverse jump though. I'm practicing with Ike currently and a good half-reverse-jump can KO someone if you land his back hit, and they don't even need to be in the air.

HAY KAYNE!

Stop using ******* Ike.

I''m really enjoying the game so far but I do have a few major issues with it and I can't help feeling a bit let down. Don't get me wrong, the game is amazing, but I don't think it tops melee. (admittedly though, I've only had the game for a day so I may change my mind later as I get more used to it)

1 - Is it just me or does the game move a lot slower than melee? I have this constant feeling of "why the hell am I moving so slowly?"

2 - Again, is it just me or does everyone have 5x the jump/recovery you'd expect? It seems like it's near impossible to kill people because they keep coming back from insane distances. (and don't even get be started on Pit's crazy *** broken jumps)

3 - Some items are so small or look so similar to others that sometimes I can't even tell what I've picked up. I'll be going for a motion sensor mine only to find out it was some unidentifiable food item.

4 - There's a major imbalance in the power and effect of the different final smashes. People like Mario, Pit, and Samus's have final smashes that are almost guaranteed to kill someone but then you have people like Zelda, Yoshi, and Falcon who's final smashes are easily avoidable.