Ok, after about a year and a half off, I slowly came back into game to find out that you can't even remotely put anything challenging on the forums, made a fan-fiction story of in-game events and was constituted as trolling, go figure. 3 day ban, and had been writing fan-fiction for 3 years before that. Never banned once.
Now I get targeted after tht incident from players on the losing side of that story, and get reported by players collaberating and saying that I'm harassing.
I was constantly being verbally abused and then reported, now I get sent to desktop from Mos Eisley only to find out I'm banned.
From what I understand, a moderator/GM usually spoke with someone before they got the boot. I have been sent to space with a GM standing in the middle of nowhere and briefed on certain situations back then....
Now nothing.
What's going on and since when did the Empire take over SWG.
- Forums
- Cross Site
- General Video Game Discussion
- @$$hole moderators? Since when did they come into play?
@$$hole moderators? Since when did they come into play?Follow
if you were as whiney and disrespecful as you are here, i wouldnt be surprised if you got banned.
i also have no doubt in my mind this sint the whole story
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 5:06am by MasterOfWar
i also have no doubt in my mind this sint the whole story
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 5:06am by MasterOfWar
agree with MoW in that your probably not coming clean on exactly why you were banned etc. also you would have received a message from the mods specifying why you were banned as they are obliged to. if your in doubt as to a forums regulations etc, then make a point of reading the do's and dont's as regards to postings. especially where it comes to fan fictions, which probably contravenes the forums regulations anyway, particularly if it makes derogatory remarks of a personal nature. i'd like to add, that a 3 day ban, represents a mild rebuke, if i was you, i'd take note of what the mods are saying and avoid further infarctions, they can ban you for far longer periods, even to the point of revoking your account, and subsequently, your game play, entirely.
As for the other players reporting you, it only works if the logs from the reporting players support their complaints, the csr's dont rely on he said she said kind of arguments, so either you were guilty as charged, or.. well there isnt an or is there.
roleplaying in local speak is one thing, but private tells are another, try to see it from the other persons point of view, and try to avoid in game arguments, though you might need to start playing on another server if your unable to diffuse the bad feelings on your current one.
MMO's are social games, while its possible to solo play them, there is a degree of interraction regardless, so being able to communicate with others is a must, some find it harder than others, and it does sound, unfortunately, like you might be one of those who falls into that category. i'd like to add, in order to gain respect, you also need to give it.
As for the other players reporting you, it only works if the logs from the reporting players support their complaints, the csr's dont rely on he said she said kind of arguments, so either you were guilty as charged, or.. well there isnt an or is there.
roleplaying in local speak is one thing, but private tells are another, try to see it from the other persons point of view, and try to avoid in game arguments, though you might need to start playing on another server if your unable to diffuse the bad feelings on your current one.
MMO's are social games, while its possible to solo play them, there is a degree of interraction regardless, so being able to communicate with others is a must, some find it harder than others, and it does sound, unfortunately, like you might be one of those who falls into that category. i'd like to add, in order to gain respect, you also need to give it.
No, this stems from a transaction which was made to me on Feb.14, when a player accidentally traded me a ISD pack and I returned it for the mere price of 75 million,please note this is not a violation of TOA and the other party agreed to what was on the trade window.
Now, everyone is targeting me and the opposing parties/guilds are harassing me expecting retaliation, which I would in duels and would kill most of them. I am day 1 veteran, bete-tested, and help build the Radiant community into the PvP server of all servers, I even make their all-time list years later. So to the person posting that I am whiney, if I was never reported for similar infractions, much less disciplined, why now?
CSR-ChrisG always spoke to me personally in game when problems would arise, pull me into space in private, then would let me know what was happening and would tell him my side of the story, then he would advise me on corrective actions to take next time. Now, seems they just ban you, then when you get back in game you have a mail saying, you were reported for harassment, please refrain from doing so again or further discipline will be taken.
It's kind of like getting f'd in the *** with no vaseline, then being told to take it like a man.
Sounds a lot like communism rather than democracy.
As far as the TOA, I am very well aware of it, and if you guys have taken english comp, which I don't think you have, let me tell you again one more time so you could understand me, I HAVE BEEN WRITING FAN FICTION FOR YEARS ON IN GAME EVENTS AND HAVE NOT BEEN DISCIPLINED ONCE!
Now, one could make the argument, which I can, that CSR's are operating in a biased and unfair way, if I was playing on my day 1 account, I doubt I would be getting banned, but am on a new account, so I think they are favoring those who they think have been in game longer, also I have screenshots of CSR-ChrisG speaking to me on certain occasions about corrective measures, also previous mails about discipline.
The TOA mean nothing if you notice unfair discipline practices, there are rights to protect the consumer as well, even if you agree to the TOA.
Now, everyone is targeting me and the opposing parties/guilds are harassing me expecting retaliation, which I would in duels and would kill most of them. I am day 1 veteran, bete-tested, and help build the Radiant community into the PvP server of all servers, I even make their all-time list years later. So to the person posting that I am whiney, if I was never reported for similar infractions, much less disciplined, why now?
CSR-ChrisG always spoke to me personally in game when problems would arise, pull me into space in private, then would let me know what was happening and would tell him my side of the story, then he would advise me on corrective actions to take next time. Now, seems they just ban you, then when you get back in game you have a mail saying, you were reported for harassment, please refrain from doing so again or further discipline will be taken.
It's kind of like getting f'd in the *** with no vaseline, then being told to take it like a man.
Sounds a lot like communism rather than democracy.
As far as the TOA, I am very well aware of it, and if you guys have taken english comp, which I don't think you have, let me tell you again one more time so you could understand me, I HAVE BEEN WRITING FAN FICTION FOR YEARS ON IN GAME EVENTS AND HAVE NOT BEEN DISCIPLINED ONCE!
Now, one could make the argument, which I can, that CSR's are operating in a biased and unfair way, if I was playing on my day 1 account, I doubt I would be getting banned, but am on a new account, so I think they are favoring those who they think have been in game longer, also I have screenshots of CSR-ChrisG speaking to me on certain occasions about corrective measures, also previous mails about discipline.
The TOA mean nothing if you notice unfair discipline practices, there are rights to protect the consumer as well, even if you agree to the TOA.
Now, let me get further into detail about the fan-fiction, they did not delete my posts on the forums, they moved them, then sent me a mail if it was ok AFTER they did it.
I told them that it wasn't, since it pertained to events that happened on Radiant, they belong on the Radiant forums, and if they were not moved before, why now? I even gave them all the stories names so they could have a reference, and all the posts after, I still even got compliments by players who don't even like me in game about the stories, and none of the fiction was abusive.
I'll even post th site ater to the stories if you would like to see them.
Now, there is this other thing which I think most of you are failing to see, it's an unfair practice called....
Entrapment.
For instance, people bufing you while doing a jedi meditate, making system chat appear on your window, dueling, denying services, etc, to try and disgruntle you, having other's send you hate tells. etc.
Naturally anyone would retalliate within the TOA, like I did which is dueling, through roleplay, it actually works very good. I would say, "I sense much anger in you, now, release your anger! Strike me down with all of your hate and your journey o the darkside will be complete!"
Heck I would even have my roleplay tag on.
Also, there's this thing, called an ignore list, if I was a problm to them, why not ignore me rather than report me?
If I was using fould language, why not use the filter?
Sadly, this doesn't excuse someone's abusive actions, which I felt I didn't do, *** is not a bad word, heck even ***** isn't, you can find them in Webster's, so those are the only two words I use in game, very rarely, and most have said far worse to me.
Also, if dueling and deatblowing is constituted as harassment, and affecting another's gameplay, then why is it in game?
That's all I was really doing then throwing in a Roleplay line...
/deathblow
/thumbdown
"All too easy...."
That's it.
There's a reason Radiant became known as the PvP server of all servers for a while, and it was guys like me who would run aroun overt back then looking for a fight and creating friction between opposing factions, that made the game enjoyable and more true to the GCW. It was once rewarded, now you are punished for it.
You want to call someone whiney? Call it to the new people coming in game from god knows what other MMORPG.
I told them that it wasn't, since it pertained to events that happened on Radiant, they belong on the Radiant forums, and if they were not moved before, why now? I even gave them all the stories names so they could have a reference, and all the posts after, I still even got compliments by players who don't even like me in game about the stories, and none of the fiction was abusive.
I'll even post th site ater to the stories if you would like to see them.
Now, there is this other thing which I think most of you are failing to see, it's an unfair practice called....
Entrapment.
For instance, people bufing you while doing a jedi meditate, making system chat appear on your window, dueling, denying services, etc, to try and disgruntle you, having other's send you hate tells. etc.
Naturally anyone would retalliate within the TOA, like I did which is dueling, through roleplay, it actually works very good. I would say, "I sense much anger in you, now, release your anger! Strike me down with all of your hate and your journey o the darkside will be complete!"
Heck I would even have my roleplay tag on.
Also, there's this thing, called an ignore list, if I was a problm to them, why not ignore me rather than report me?
If I was using fould language, why not use the filter?
Sadly, this doesn't excuse someone's abusive actions, which I felt I didn't do, *** is not a bad word, heck even ***** isn't, you can find them in Webster's, so those are the only two words I use in game, very rarely, and most have said far worse to me.
Also, if dueling and deatblowing is constituted as harassment, and affecting another's gameplay, then why is it in game?
That's all I was really doing then throwing in a Roleplay line...
/deathblow
/thumbdown
"All too easy...."
That's it.
There's a reason Radiant became known as the PvP server of all servers for a while, and it was guys like me who would run aroun overt back then looking for a fight and creating friction between opposing factions, that made the game enjoyable and more true to the GCW. It was once rewarded, now you are punished for it.
You want to call someone whiney? Call it to the new people coming in game from god knows what other MMORPG.
Just so i understand the situation... someone "accidently" traded you an isd backpack. By that i take it you mean they showed it to you, then accidently clicked the option to trade. After this you then traded the item back with an additional 75 million charge?
Thats RP? That sounds like blackmail to me. I mean, its not like youve said you then gave them back the 75million credits now is it.
Thats RP? That sounds like blackmail to me. I mean, its not like youve said you then gave them back the 75million credits now is it.
Here you have it. I do not even have access to look at them as well, even when I wasn't banned, and they took me a while to write.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=604147
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 1:26pm by hexnefx
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=604147
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 1:26pm by hexnefx
They didn't show it to me, she traded it to me the first time, which I declined, then she did it again, and I accepted. Naturally anyone would think they were giving it to them, which I thought she was, heck it was even Valentine's day so I thought it was a valentines gift.
Ten later she asked for it back saying it was a mistake, so the pack was worth 100 million on the server easily, and took 75 million.
Now here are the stories, tell me if you find them abusive.
Please note I do not even have access to them, not enough priveleges, and they took me a while to write.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=604147
The stories are the chain of events starting from...
1. Betrayal to the Empire...
2. Revenge of a Sith...
3. A Phantom Menace...
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 1:10pm by hexnefx
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 1:26pm by hexnefx
Ten later she asked for it back saying it was a mistake, so the pack was worth 100 million on the server easily, and took 75 million.
Now here are the stories, tell me if you find them abusive.
Please note I do not even have access to them, not enough priveleges, and they took me a while to write.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=604147
The stories are the chain of events starting from...
1. Betrayal to the Empire...
2. Revenge of a Sith...
3. A Phantom Menace...
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 1:10pm by hexnefx
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 1:26pm by hexnefx
different mods have differant views on what is acceptable, this is fact.
its still also immpossible to know if what your telling us is the whole story.
not to mention, that moderation has likely become stricter after the immature, and quite frankly, disgusting behavior of many "vets" of this game.
its still also immpossible to know if what your telling us is the whole story.
not to mention, that moderation has likely become stricter after the immature, and quite frankly, disgusting behavior of many "vets" of this game.
Different mods have different views on what is acceptable?
They are ALL suposed to act under certain guildelines, think of them as certain ways of "Operating Rules and Procedures."
When all moderators act by these certain guidelines as far as discipline, etc. It creates a certain way of handling things that eliminates what people like to call....
Favoritism and unfair practices.
Can tell not too many people have management skills on these forums.
They are ALL suposed to act under certain guildelines, think of them as certain ways of "Operating Rules and Procedures."
When all moderators act by these certain guidelines as far as discipline, etc. It creates a certain way of handling things that eliminates what people like to call....
Favoritism and unfair practices.
Can tell not too many people have management skills on these forums.
hexnefx wrote:
Can tell not too many people have management skills on these forums.
you can tell you dont deal with mods/GMs to often, yes, they have differant views, anyone whos ever been a a forum would know this.
anyone whos played galaxies and ever talked to a GM would know this too, GM-A might restore your accidently deleted house, while GM-B might just tell you theres nothing he can do, while GM-C would give you the standard cut and paste response.
also all your links arnt complete
Updated links.
You are absolutely right, because I don't violate the TOA too often. It just seems that this is a new form of retaliation by players that costs people their account and lost $$$.
This crosses the line from in-game retalliation to RL retalliation.
Also, through community relations on forums and in-game, there seems to be favoritism amongst moderators/players. I have reported several instances since I was banned the first time to eliminate future altercations, yet they still are active and I am not, and in no way have I violated the TOA more than they have, even the instance wher the moderator banned me last night, there were several players being abusive to me, which the only thing can recall saying that was offensive was.
"Repap would kick all of your asses."
As far as they go...
"Duel me you weak little @#$#%, your the worst jedi ever, scared little @#$%, you get your #@$ kicked daily, etc."
They did it for about a half hour straight, so if I was being monitered, the CSR must have seen them provoking me.
The thing is, I can't get back in game and screenshot this in game chat, I have a very legitimate case to sue SOE.
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 1:37pm by hexnefx
Quote:
you can tell you dont deal with mods/GMs to often, yes, they have differant views, anyone whos ever been a a forum would know this.
anyone whos played galaxies and ever talked to a GM would know this too, GM-A might restore your accidently deleted house, while GM-B might just tell you theres nothing he can do, while GM-C would give you the standard cut and paste response.
anyone whos played galaxies and ever talked to a GM would know this too, GM-A might restore your accidently deleted house, while GM-B might just tell you theres nothing he can do, while GM-C would give you the standard cut and paste response.
You are absolutely right, because I don't violate the TOA too often. It just seems that this is a new form of retaliation by players that costs people their account and lost $$$.
This crosses the line from in-game retalliation to RL retalliation.
Also, through community relations on forums and in-game, there seems to be favoritism amongst moderators/players. I have reported several instances since I was banned the first time to eliminate future altercations, yet they still are active and I am not, and in no way have I violated the TOA more than they have, even the instance wher the moderator banned me last night, there were several players being abusive to me, which the only thing can recall saying that was offensive was.
"Repap would kick all of your asses."
As far as they go...
"Duel me you weak little @#$#%, your the worst jedi ever, scared little @#$%, you get your #@$ kicked daily, etc."
They did it for about a half hour straight, so if I was being monitered, the CSR must have seen them provoking me.
The thing is, I can't get back in game and screenshot this in game chat, I have a very legitimate case to sue SOE.
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 1:37pm by hexnefx
where, exaclty wa it moved? cause i cant see it without being able to log in, which i dont think i can do seeing as i dont have an account.
i can see the post, just cant click the link in the post that is
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 4:36pm by MasterOfWar
i can see the post, just cant click the link in the post that is
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 4:36pm by MasterOfWar
My point exactly, if I do not have the preveliges to see the stories, and neither do you, and the moderators didn't delete them, then it must not have been a violation.
I still have the private message as well, the mod didn't even write that it was abusive. He said it was moved to fan-fic and asked me if it was OK?
Since I can't see it, and they are not violating forum rules, then that's just flat out favoritism towards the parties that were on the losing side of the story.
That's all it really is, people who are sensitive about losing to who they think is a new player in this game, and moderators who are backing them since the numbers are on their side.
It's an old practice really, bu that not too many people would do back then. When someone would want someone reported or out of game, they would go to guild chat and tell all members to report or target a certain player. A CSR just looks at the numbers and just deals with it without investigating the matter, which seperates a good moderator...
CSR-ChrisG
From a bad one...
CSR???
So in actuality the moderators just aren't doing their job, maybe the new ones should consider a career change. I hear McDonald's is hiring.
I still have the private message as well, the mod didn't even write that it was abusive. He said it was moved to fan-fic and asked me if it was OK?
Since I can't see it, and they are not violating forum rules, then that's just flat out favoritism towards the parties that were on the losing side of the story.
That's all it really is, people who are sensitive about losing to who they think is a new player in this game, and moderators who are backing them since the numbers are on their side.
It's an old practice really, bu that not too many people would do back then. When someone would want someone reported or out of game, they would go to guild chat and tell all members to report or target a certain player. A CSR just looks at the numbers and just deals with it without investigating the matter, which seperates a good moderator...
CSR-ChrisG
From a bad one...
CSR???
So in actuality the moderators just aren't doing their job, maybe the new ones should consider a career change. I hear McDonald's is hiring.
hexnefx wrote:
Since I can't see it, and they are not violating forum rules, then that's just flat out favoritism towards the parties that were on the losing side of the story.
what losing side of the story? was this story based on people in game?
heres a hint to, stop insulting people, theres no need for it, becasue as far as we know, your just having a fit, like %99 of people who are banned "for no reason".
not to mention if you behaved like that to mods/gms,i wouldnt be surprised at all that you were banned
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 5:13pm by MasterOfWar
Yes, the story was based on people in game.
Let me dumb it down for you since you just don't seem to get it.
1.Go on a NS run with party.
2.Party boots me after loss to NS, thinking it was my fault.
3.ISD Backpack is to be traded in mos eisley to a player who insulted me on NS run and booted me. Made comments like "Your such a n00b and an @$$." The item is traed to me.
4.Keep backpack, was reported, moderator sided with me.
5.Player who wanted to trade backpack to another gets under fire from many players, one player wants to clear her name.
6.He makes me an offer for it sending me mail and pm's. I agree and trade it back.
7.He promises retalliation towards me.
8.Targeted ever since, accepting duels from players from several guilds who disagreed with my actions and DBing them(What can I say, that's how a SWG vet responds), under /report fire resulting me to get banned.
Now, one could say that I should have went the honest route to people who treated me like crap in game, but I was always a fan of "Treat others as they treat you."
So, I could have bio-linked the item, sold it for 100 million or more, but instead gave it back for less than what it was worth.
Anyway you slice it, I didn't violate anything, and it's not like these people are or were my friends, they are of the same faction and they do not even roleplay it, even during pvp events they were sending duels my way.
So MoW, I'll leave you with this.
FORMULATE A GOOD RESPONSE, BACK IT WITH GOOD REASONS, THEN GIVE AN HONEST OPINION.
Can't believe a guy like you has a 4 star rating, and if you can't take criticism on a forum, maybe you should get out, because the criticism is much deserved. At least I can back my arguments.
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 2:47pm by hexnefx
Let me dumb it down for you since you just don't seem to get it.
1.Go on a NS run with party.
2.Party boots me after loss to NS, thinking it was my fault.
3.ISD Backpack is to be traded in mos eisley to a player who insulted me on NS run and booted me. Made comments like "Your such a n00b and an @$$." The item is traed to me.
4.Keep backpack, was reported, moderator sided with me.
5.Player who wanted to trade backpack to another gets under fire from many players, one player wants to clear her name.
6.He makes me an offer for it sending me mail and pm's. I agree and trade it back.
7.He promises retalliation towards me.
8.Targeted ever since, accepting duels from players from several guilds who disagreed with my actions and DBing them(What can I say, that's how a SWG vet responds), under /report fire resulting me to get banned.
Now, one could say that I should have went the honest route to people who treated me like crap in game, but I was always a fan of "Treat others as they treat you."
So, I could have bio-linked the item, sold it for 100 million or more, but instead gave it back for less than what it was worth.
Anyway you slice it, I didn't violate anything, and it's not like these people are or were my friends, they are of the same faction and they do not even roleplay it, even during pvp events they were sending duels my way.
So MoW, I'll leave you with this.
FORMULATE A GOOD RESPONSE, BACK IT WITH GOOD REASONS, THEN GIVE AN HONEST OPINION.
Can't believe a guy like you has a 4 star rating, and if you can't take criticism on a forum, maybe you should get out, because the criticism is much deserved. At least I can back my arguments.
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 2:47pm by hexnefx
Couple of points.
First.
For a simple story it keeps changing. I mean take the harmless fan fiction, if its based on events where it concerned players that you had a dissagreement with. Your basically asking for trouble. Especially if your using said fiction to tell said events in your own way.
Second point.
The person you first mentioned in the context of trading the backpack just went from someone described as a friend, it was valantines day what was i to think etc. To someone that was slinging insults and you'd had a bad history with. Sorry if im finding this hard to follow. Is it just me that finds it hard to believe that someone in those circumstances would give out a 100mil credit valentines gift?
So that leaves us with one side and opinion of said events, which in this case wont give us a true picture. No matter how you colour it.
First.
For a simple story it keeps changing. I mean take the harmless fan fiction, if its based on events where it concerned players that you had a dissagreement with. Your basically asking for trouble. Especially if your using said fiction to tell said events in your own way.
Second point.
The person you first mentioned in the context of trading the backpack just went from someone described as a friend, it was valantines day what was i to think etc. To someone that was slinging insults and you'd had a bad history with. Sorry if im finding this hard to follow. Is it just me that finds it hard to believe that someone in those circumstances would give out a 100mil credit valentines gift?
So that leaves us with one side and opinion of said events, which in this case wont give us a true picture. No matter how you colour it.
DrGircenstein wrote:
Couple of points.
First.
For a simple story it keeps changing. I mean take the harmless fan fiction, if its based on events where it concerned players that you had a dissagreement with. Your basically asking for trouble. Especially if your using said fiction to tell said events in your own way.
First.
For a simple story it keeps changing. I mean take the harmless fan fiction, if its based on events where it concerned players that you had a dissagreement with. Your basically asking for trouble. Especially if your using said fiction to tell said events in your own way.
ya if your making "fanfiction" about real people, yes, that would easily constitute inappropriate, so i leave you with this, you were stupid, you likely deserved exactly what you got, and go fuck yourself.
Quote:
Can't believe a guy like you has a 4 star rating, and if you can't take criticism on a forum, maybe you should get out, because the criticism is much deserved. At least I can back my arguments.
guy like me? haha, act like you know me all you want, but im sure im not alone when i say this, most of us are quite sick of people like you using this forum as a ***** box.
cant take criticism on a forum? you call this criticism? gonna have to ramp it up if your trying to offend me.
how i have 4 stars? 3.5-4 years of helping people on these forums will do that to ya, im sure you dont know what thats like.
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 6:36pm by MasterOfWar
Quote:
Couple of points.
First.
For a simple story it keeps changing. I mean take the harmless fan fiction, if its based on events where it concerned players that you had a dissagreement with. Your basically asking for trouble. Especially if your using said fiction to tell said events in your own way.
Second point.
The person you first mentioned in the context of trading the backpack just went from someone described as a friend, it was valantines day what was i to think etc. To someone that was slinging insults and you'd had a bad history with. Sorry if im finding this hard to follow. Is it just me that finds it hard to believe that someone in those circumstances would give out a 100mil credit valentines gift?
So that leaves us with one side and opinion of said events, which in this case wont give us a true picture. No matter how you colour it.
First.
For a simple story it keeps changing. I mean take the harmless fan fiction, if its based on events where it concerned players that you had a dissagreement with. Your basically asking for trouble. Especially if your using said fiction to tell said events in your own way.
Second point.
The person you first mentioned in the context of trading the backpack just went from someone described as a friend, it was valantines day what was i to think etc. To someone that was slinging insults and you'd had a bad history with. Sorry if im finding this hard to follow. Is it just me that finds it hard to believe that someone in those circumstances would give out a 100mil credit valentines gift?
So that leaves us with one side and opinion of said events, which in this case wont give us a true picture. No matter how you colour it.
To your first response,
If I am writing a fictional story, and I am the author, I can pretty much write it the way I feel the turn of events went down in a fictional, and what I feel is a harmless way, trust me, it was far worse than written, I actually toned it down.
As far as asking for trouble, no, it was intended to be a story, much like the ones I have written for years, as I stated. Naturally some people will take offense to it, that's common, I like to write GCW stories and in a GCW there is conflict. As you can see in the stories I actually don't side with myself completely, I get hit, beaten by opposing parties, Vader, etc.
Second Response,
Then there is the friend, the person who crafted the ISD pack is a friend of mine, correct, she would make clothing for me constantly, even on my old account, which is why I traded it back, but not without making the people who I are not exactly my favorite people on Radiant, pay for it. (Within TOA)
So I don't know what's hard for you to believe, she made a mistake, twice. I took advantage of the situation. There's no violation for that.
Now, any old-school veteran of Radiant knows who I am, and knows that this is what myself, and many others have done in retaliation to people who look to start in-game conflict do. I don't start in-game conflict, I finish it, keeping it in-game and within the TOA.
If people have a problem with that that's their problem, there are winner's and losers everyday when it comes to MMORPG's that have a GCW, faction war, whatever.
If they want one that doesn't, maybe they should play SIMS online.
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ya if your making "fanfiction" about real people, yes, that would easily constitute inappropriate, so i leave you with this, you were stupid, you likely deserved exactly what you got, and go **** yourself.
Man, only a guy with mental issues would call pixelatd toons "Real People"
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guy like me? haha, act like you know me all you want, but im sure im not alone when i say this, most of us are quite sick of people like you using this forum as a ***** box.
cant take criticism on a forum? you call this criticism? gonna have to ramp it up if your trying to offend me.
how i have 4 stars? 3.5-4 years of helping people on these forums will do that to ya, im sure you dont know what thats like.
cant take criticism on a forum? you call this criticism? gonna have to ramp it up if your trying to offend me.
how i have 4 stars? 3.5-4 years of helping people on these forums will do that to ya, im sure you dont know what thats like.
Ramp it up? Man, since when did Eminem get on these forums. If it isn't a studio gangster it's an internet one.
As far as your 4 star rating, be happy with it, cause I doubt you get that many gold stars at your elementary school.
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ya if your making "fanfiction" about real people, yes, that would easily constitute inappropriate, so i leave you with this, you were stupid, you likely deserved exactly what you got, and go @#%^ yourself.
Man, only a guy with mental issues would call pixelatd toons "Real People"
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guy like me? haha, act like you know me all you want, but im sure im not alone when i say this, most of us are quite sick of people like you using this forum as a ***** box.
cant take criticism on a forum? you call this criticism? gonna have to ramp it up if your trying to offend me.
how i have 4 stars? 3.5-4 years of helping people on these forums will do that to ya, im sure you dont know what thats like.
cant take criticism on a forum? you call this criticism? gonna have to ramp it up if your trying to offend me.
how i have 4 stars? 3.5-4 years of helping people on these forums will do that to ya, im sure you dont know what thats like.
Ramp it up? Man, since when did Eminem get on these forums. If it isn't a studio gangster it's an internet one.
As far as your 4 star rating, be happy with it, cause I doubt you get that many gold stars at your elementary school.
believe it or not, theres people behind those toons, and writing storeis about them is inappropriate, you have to face facts.
and an elementary school joke? please, you can do better than that
Well, ive been stupid. I now see this for what it is. Someone used to finishing things ingame met the only people ingame with the power to do that, CSR's.
But then they had no outlet to vent and decided they wanted to argue the fact that black is white etc wherever they could.
If you cant see how your "fiction" could violate TOA then theres no hope for you. Ive seen flamefests start from less. The story however you present it is one perspective of a string of events that included many people by your own admission. What are we supposed to do? Take your word on whats been said here?
Would that be fair? Would you do the same if the situation was reversed.
Your asking us for leaps of faith but for what reason? With that attitude to back it up are you suprised by the response? Every person thats responded to this has been skeptical to say the least. So i think all your going to do is make people sympathise with the CSR's.
What i find hard to beleive is you ripped off a friend for 75 mil then expect any kind of sympathy.
Oh wait was it the friend or did you promise someone that you could get the schem crafted for them then added a 75mil charge ontop of that? dragging your tailor friend into the middle of your own personal argument?
or as you put it "3.ISD Backpack is to be traded in mos eisley to a player who insulted me on NS run and booted me. Made comments like "Your such a n00b and an @$$." The item is traed to me".
This just changed from a backpack to a schem.
I'm sorry if i dont seem to be following this to the letter. I can only go on whats written now cant i.
But then they had no outlet to vent and decided they wanted to argue the fact that black is white etc wherever they could.
If you cant see how your "fiction" could violate TOA then theres no hope for you. Ive seen flamefests start from less. The story however you present it is one perspective of a string of events that included many people by your own admission. What are we supposed to do? Take your word on whats been said here?
Would that be fair? Would you do the same if the situation was reversed.
Your asking us for leaps of faith but for what reason? With that attitude to back it up are you suprised by the response? Every person thats responded to this has been skeptical to say the least. So i think all your going to do is make people sympathise with the CSR's.
What i find hard to beleive is you ripped off a friend for 75 mil then expect any kind of sympathy.
Oh wait was it the friend or did you promise someone that you could get the schem crafted for them then added a 75mil charge ontop of that? dragging your tailor friend into the middle of your own personal argument?
or as you put it "3.ISD Backpack is to be traded in mos eisley to a player who insulted me on NS run and booted me. Made comments like "Your such a n00b and an @$$." The item is traed to me".
This just changed from a backpack to a schem.
I'm sorry if i dont seem to be following this to the letter. I can only go on whats written now cant i.
Now for the creative response!
"It had been over 1 and a 1/2 years since id been here. The weary warrior returned to the battle that never ended. I was the master, most that faced me fell. I was in for a shock.
In the time of my abscence things had changed. People that used to look upto me and respect me could now beat me senseless in the time it took me to say "duel". My once powerfull skills were not enough, i was basically an experianced noob... It didnt sit well with me. I was still the master! Wasnt i?
I used to be somebody! How could things have changed so much. Surely things would have been at a standstill when i wasnt here? What are all these new terms that people speak of every day? My very skills have themselves transformed into something else. Alliegences had shifted, former allies where now enemys. Others had gone.
They should all fear me, run from the very mention of my name but most i was met with was indifferance. I DEMANDED RESPECT! It never came, only insults and laughter... laughter constantly taunting me. They would fear me again!
So i got to work on a plan... boy did that backfire but thats another story"
Thats my fiction on events. Now i can only tell it from my perspective but im sure you'll agree that its a fair version of whats transpired.
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 7:29pm by DrGircenstein
"It had been over 1 and a 1/2 years since id been here. The weary warrior returned to the battle that never ended. I was the master, most that faced me fell. I was in for a shock.
In the time of my abscence things had changed. People that used to look upto me and respect me could now beat me senseless in the time it took me to say "duel". My once powerfull skills were not enough, i was basically an experianced noob... It didnt sit well with me. I was still the master! Wasnt i?
I used to be somebody! How could things have changed so much. Surely things would have been at a standstill when i wasnt here? What are all these new terms that people speak of every day? My very skills have themselves transformed into something else. Alliegences had shifted, former allies where now enemys. Others had gone.
They should all fear me, run from the very mention of my name but most i was met with was indifferance. I DEMANDED RESPECT! It never came, only insults and laughter... laughter constantly taunting me. They would fear me again!
So i got to work on a plan... boy did that backfire but thats another story"
Thats my fiction on events. Now i can only tell it from my perspective but im sure you'll agree that its a fair version of whats transpired.
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 7:29pm by DrGircenstein
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If you cant see how your "fiction" could violate TOA then theres no hope for you. Ive seen flamefests start from less. The story however you present it is one perspective of a string of events that included many people by your own admission. What are we supposed to do? Take your word on whats been said here?
Would that be fair? Would you do the same if the situation was reversed
Would that be fair? Would you do the same if the situation was reversed
Really, I don't see how my fiction could violate it, and once again,I'm actually getting tired of saying this, it hasn't violated for years.
The story is meant to be taken as just that, a story. It is not to be taken seriously, get offended by it, etc. It's a roleplay story that pertains to events that happen on Radiant that make good fan-fiction with a twist of in-game events from the author's perspective. Nothing more.
As far as I go, yes I would take it the same way if it was about me. As a matter of fact, after I started posting stories, many started doing the same about me, I found their writing styles to be interesting and brought life to the forums from the regular..."You got pwnt!" post. I actually made several friendships and many wanted me to include them in a story.
But don't take my word for it, I will find the post later on the All-time list, and what I was respected for if you want to see it for yourself.
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What i find hard to beleive is you ripped off a friend for 75 mil then expect any kind of sympathy.
Oh wait was it the friend or did you promise someone that you could get the schem crafted for them then added a 75mil charge ontop of that? dragging your tailor friend into the middle of your own personal argument?
or as you put it "3.ISD Backpack is to be traded in mos eisley to a player who insulted me on NS run and booted me. Made comments like "Your such a n00b and an @$$." The item is traed to me".
This just changed from a backpack to a schem.
I'm sorry if i dont seem to be following this to the letter. I can only go on whats written now cant i.
Oh wait was it the friend or did you promise someone that you could get the schem crafted for them then added a 75mil charge ontop of that? dragging your tailor friend into the middle of your own personal argument?
or as you put it "3.ISD Backpack is to be traded in mos eisley to a player who insulted me on NS run and booted me. Made comments like "Your such a n00b and an @$$." The item is traed to me".
This just changed from a backpack to a schem.
I'm sorry if i dont seem to be following this to the letter. I can only go on whats written now cant i.
I think your a bit lost on he events, no I did not take the 75 million from a friend, I took it from the party that insulted me and booted me from an instance, like 80% of Radiant veterans would most likely do, then apologized to my friend afterwards. She is a tailor and crafted it for one of the players, I just happened to be at the right place at the right time when it was handed to me. Now think if they would have been respectful towards me on that instance rather than boot me and insult me. They would be 75 million credits richer right now.
"Revenge is a dish best served cold."
The thing with my gameplay style is I keep conflict in-game and within the TOA.
The instigating, entrapping, /report tactics is beyond in-game. You cost a client his account, time and money. It's no different than hustling and stealing a guys wallet if you ask me.
It's a cowardly act.
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Now for the creative response!
"It had been over 1 and a 1/2 years since id been here. The weary warrior returned to the battle that never ended. I was the master, most that faced me fell. I was in for a shock.
In the time of my abscence things had changed. People that used to look upto me and respect me could now beat me senseless in the time it took me to say "duel". My once powerfull skills were not enough, i was basically an experianced noob... It didnt sit well with me. I was still the master! Wasnt i?
I used to be somebody! How could things have changed so much. Surely things would have been at a standstill when i wasnt here? What are all these new terms that people speak of every day? My very skills have themselves transformed into something else. Alliegences had shifted, former allies where now enemys. Others had gone.
They should all fear me, run from the very mention of my name but most i was met with was indifferance. I DEMANDED RESPECT! It never came, only insults and laughter... laughter constantly taunting me. They would fear me again!
So i got to work on a plan... boy did that backfire but thats another story"
Thats my fiction on events. Now i can only tell it from my perspective but im sure you'll agree that its a fair version of whats transpired.
"It had been over 1 and a 1/2 years since id been here. The weary warrior returned to the battle that never ended. I was the master, most that faced me fell. I was in for a shock.
In the time of my abscence things had changed. People that used to look upto me and respect me could now beat me senseless in the time it took me to say "duel". My once powerfull skills were not enough, i was basically an experianced noob... It didnt sit well with me. I was still the master! Wasnt i?
I used to be somebody! How could things have changed so much. Surely things would have been at a standstill when i wasnt here? What are all these new terms that people speak of every day? My very skills have themselves transformed into something else. Alliegences had shifted, former allies where now enemys. Others had gone.
They should all fear me, run from the very mention of my name but most i was met with was indifferance. I DEMANDED RESPECT! It never came, only insults and laughter... laughter constantly taunting me. They would fear me again!
So i got to work on a plan... boy did that backfire but thats another story"
Thats my fiction on events. Now i can only tell it from my perspective but im sure you'll agree that its a fair version of whats transpired.
Don't give up your day job. Just my two cents.
DrGircenstein wrote:
Now for the creative response!
"It had been over 1 and a 1/2 years since id been here. The weary warrior returned to the battle that never ended. I was the master, most that faced me fell. I was in for a shock.
In the time of my abscence things had changed. People that used to look upto me and respect me could now beat me senseless in the time it took me to say "duel". My once powerfull skills were not enough, i was basically an experianced noob... It didnt sit well with me. I was still the master! Wasnt i?
I used to be somebody! How could things have changed so much. Surely things would have been at a standstill when i wasnt here? What are all these new terms that people speak of every day? My very skills have themselves transformed into something else. Alliegences had shifted, former allies where now enemys. Others had gone.
They should all fear me, run from the very mention of my name but most i was met with was indifferance. I DEMANDED RESPECT! It never came, only insults and laughter... laughter constantly taunting me. They would fear me again!
So i got to work on a plan... boy did that backfire but thats another story"
Thats my fiction on events. Now i can only tell it from my perspective but im sure you'll agree that its a fair version of whats transpired.
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 7:29pm by DrGircenstein
"It had been over 1 and a 1/2 years since id been here. The weary warrior returned to the battle that never ended. I was the master, most that faced me fell. I was in for a shock.
In the time of my abscence things had changed. People that used to look upto me and respect me could now beat me senseless in the time it took me to say "duel". My once powerfull skills were not enough, i was basically an experianced noob... It didnt sit well with me. I was still the master! Wasnt i?
I used to be somebody! How could things have changed so much. Surely things would have been at a standstill when i wasnt here? What are all these new terms that people speak of every day? My very skills have themselves transformed into something else. Alliegences had shifted, former allies where now enemys. Others had gone.
They should all fear me, run from the very mention of my name but most i was met with was indifferance. I DEMANDED RESPECT! It never came, only insults and laughter... laughter constantly taunting me. They would fear me again!
So i got to work on a plan... boy did that backfire but thats another story"
Thats my fiction on events. Now i can only tell it from my perspective but im sure you'll agree that its a fair version of whats transpired.
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 7:29pm by DrGircenstein
nice, and im sure its 10x better than whatever the other tool wrote.
and it doesn't matter how you try and spin it, writing stories about others peoples characters can easily be considered inappropriate.
and judging by your attitube, and behavior here, i can only assume it was.
Edited, Feb 24th 2008 7:46pm by MasterOfWar
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