Good, but overrated gamesFollow

I will never understand the allure of beat em ups. Most developers have added rpg and puzzle elements to the traditional beat em ups to make them less monotonous. Hint to developers: focus on the features you added to make the game more fun, not the ones you hald realize you pushed aside. To me beat em ups should evolve in to what is essentially a skill based RPG.

I stopped caring about RPGs released on Nintendo systems around the time of Quest 64 and Aidyn Chronicles. I honestly can't think of another RPG on the Gamecube at the moment.

Competitively it's a step back for the series.


Game I'd throw on the list.
Resident Evil - Silent Hill better accentuates the horror and immersion elements of of the genre; fatal frame is also quite remarkable in this.

Devil May Cry - People seem to complain about the difficulty, but I've always found Shinobi to be both more difficult and allowing players more freedom in combat.

Edited, Jun 8th 2008 5:25am by Pride

Heavenly Sword

Gears of War, people act like this game was so orignal with its cover system, and they act like its the second coming or something.

Completely agree.

I specifically avoided mentioning Halo because I felt it wasn't a good enough game to be called "Good, but overrated." Out of all the most popular, recent FPS games Halo is the absolute worst, you'd have start going into low budget productions to find a more terrible game. Combat is sluggish beyond reason. The storyline is enjoyable, but only because it is a copypaste from the most cliche and well loved elements of the scifi genre.

Grand Theft Auto IV

Don't get me wrong. It's still a great game, but there are just to many tiny little flaws to give it a perfect score of 100 out of 100 like it does on many sites and magazines. I like the more serious approach and the fact that they dropped the whole gangsta style. However, I kinda miss the whole epicness of San Andreas. Dropping from a whole state to one (huge) city was kind of a step back for me. I've given it a nice 95/100. Again, it's one of the best games of the past years, but just not perfect.

But I don't agree with the negative reviews made by some users either. Some people seem to have expected that they get a multiple ****** by the sight of each single in-game frame. And now that didn't happen they feel Rockstar has sold out and that GTA-IV is the worst game ever. Also it bugs me that people think GTA-IV doesn't deserve more than a meagre 80 just because the whole game is pretty much the same like the past 3 parts. Seriously, what do they expect? A GTA game where you can catch 150 different criminals with little balls, and use them to fight each other? Or GTA in space with mutant alien flying sharks with frickin' lasers attached to their heads? They have added some small things such as more realism, a friend system, a cover system and improved AI compared to the other games. And yes, you still have to nick cars and shoot people, but did some people honestly expected something else?

base oblivion i agree, but are you playing the pc version?

theres some pretty sweet mods, including one i think that does away with the level scaling.

I don't think it's fair to call Smash Bros. a fan service fighting game, because that is not really it's most defining feature. It certainly services the fans, but the engine and game play are radically different from most every popular fighter, both 2d and 3d.

Oblivion most definitely fits the topic.

Final Fantasy VII.



I know. I'll probably get defaulted. But honestly, nothing about this game absolutely floored me. Granted, it was a big advancement as far as game mechanics is concerned, but I honestly don't understand the church of Sephiroth that seems to have arisen.

The characters were okay, and the story was pretty good, but I'd be willing to say that some of the games following in the series did it better. I know I personally liked the stories in eight and nine better, and nine certainly had a somewhat more polished battle system. (Hell, even X-2 had a really good system based on the mechanics that were developed in VII.)



So basically, game that does it better: Final Fantasy VIII, IX, X-2.

Blasphemer!

But seriously, I've heard more people state this. Although the fanbase for the VII is pretty big (and I'm one of them, VII is still my favourite console game to date), some state that the older ones are better, some that the IX is better. Story wise, I would say that the VII is much better than the X, X-2 or XII. Some would dispute about the IX, mostly because it has a more fantasy feel to it I suppose.

As for the
Church of Sephiroth

The 8 did have the toughest or easiest, depending on how you played it, endfight in all the FF stories.

It got a lot of criticism for it's drawing system, which imo was even better than the battle system in FF VII.

8 had a raw, lifeless, industrial feel about it. It focused more on character relationships and small quirky things which eventually spread out into something like a story. It really could have been something special if they had thought it all through a bit more.

Eww, the drawing system in VIII was probably the single worst battle system in any FF game. All you had to do to annihilate anything in your path was max out on the strongest spells and melee stuff into the ground. The story was also a steaming pile. It had some potential in the beginning but by the end it was just crap, it didn't even make sense. I mean really, what the hell did Ultimicia want to compress time for again?

Eight is definitely my least favorite FF by far. It felt like one big deus ex machina, especially when you get into the whole orphanage business... And I hate, hate, hated the draw system, and the fact that there's no armor and only a few weapons that are nigh-impossible to obtain. Not to mention that the battles were pretty much nothing but watching the GF cinematics over and over again.

As for 7, when it was released it was quite possibly the greatest RPG of all time. But nostalgia has not treated it nearly as well as, say, 4-6. Kefka will never be replaced in my heart.

Ten had my favorite battle system by far, provided you don't abuse the Aeon overdrive trick for the bosses... :P