Summing up the Wii trendFollow

"Core Market? You think you're my core market? How adorable."

I got Wii for the games I knew I wanted to play, for Zelda, Mario, and Smash, but I was expecting more than just that, and Nintendo has yet to deliver. I was happy that the Wii was vastly outselling the 360 and PS3 because I thought it might translate into more developer interest, meaning better games. But somewhere along the way Nintendo stop caring about gamers and began focusing on novelty players. I hoped for Kirby, Donkey Kong, and Banjo-Kazooie, and many more, but nothing.

Can't blame them really. If MicroSoft and Sony want to appeal to hardcore gamers, it only makes sense that Nintendo would want to appeal to the "Casuals". Spply/demand etc etc. One of the reasons Nintendo have houses built of money.

Not for mindless fighting games that you can spend decades learning only to be beaten by a halfwit chimp sitting on the controller!

Nah, im cool playing on my 360, on my 65" HD TV, with my surround sound... on my extraordinarily comfortable couch.

like its imposable to do that with a pc.

same here.

what a waste of 500 bucks.

I still think wii sports is the best game on it, that is sad.

I wont argue that.

And no i didnt spend 500 dollars on just the wii. I, like most people i would guess, also bought games and accessories with it, each of which was also very disappointing. I beat mario galaxy because i felt i HAD to since i had just spent so much money. Then i played a bunch of zelda, and was not impressed at all. I really gave that game a shot too.

Wii sports is pretty good, i still play it when my parents come over... lol

As for my taste in games... atrocious? hardly. My problem is i expect TOO much from games now that xbox and PS3 have raised the bar. I expect a visually pleasing experience as well as great gameplay standard. I cant even go back and play regular Xbox games anymore because of the graphics and they have better graphics than the wii.

Doesnt matter though, its all about personal likes. My console games of choice are sports, racing, FPS, action. Much further down the list is RPGs and Platforms. So yeah, You are probably right. Oh well, i was bored one weekend and had just gotten my economic stimulus check. This one's on uncle sam.

So you're just a graphics ***** basically? I understand that graphics are nice to have but you can not go back to the original xbox due to it's graphics?

I'd take issue with the wii underperforming the original xbox.;.. metrid prime 3 outshines everything that I can think of on that console. It's not that the wii can't make decent looking environments; it's that noone cares enough to try except nintendo, and nintendo is busy being a ***** to consumers half of the time.

Edited, Jul 23rd 2008 7:48pm by Pensive

Rare owns the rights to this 'franchise.' Rare was bought up by Microsoft back when original XBox games were still being made.

360 pros just dropped to 300 dollars. You can get refurbished one's for like 190. Then again I don't believe that you're in america so I have no idea how much it would cost you.

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I got one mainly for the rpgs. For some stupid reason the 360 is second only to the DS in rpgs right now. Now why the DS is first I don't know either... Point is, among tales of vesperia, eternal sonata, lost oddysey, mass effect, blue dragon, and oblivion, there are too many rpgs on the console for me to ignore any longer. And ninja gaiden black was basically just zelda with blood and boobs (not a bad thing by any means), so good on number II also.



If you cannot recognize that zelda is a better quality game than wii sports then you have major problems. This doesn't require you to enjoy zelda more than wii sports. It requires an appraisal of the various standards to which each game lives up. There really is no contest here. Now, i've met plenty of people that don't like nintendo's games, and do like wii sports. Most of them are old women and very young children. You, however, are neither of these (I assume). It surprises me how one can simultaneously enjoy wii sports over zelda and make an argument about games being judged on pleasing visuals and sturdy gameplay. Wii sports has neither of these; zelda does, yet you enjoy wii sports... but think that other consoles have much better games. I am truly confused here.

What do you play anyway?

Edited, Jul 24th 2008 6:46am by Pensive

Yeah graphics are very important to me.



I definitely do not think the characters and scenery in TF2 looked better than crysis... not even close... Not in my mind. Its cool that you like that in a game, i dont care about the "art". I played TF2 to go around shooting people, i would have preferred more crysis like graphics, but that wasnt an option.

like i said, it depends on the person. I like good gameplay and good graphics so the wii disappointed me. I expected some incredible gameplay to make up for the graphics and i didnt get it. In fact i saw more boring gameplay (aside from wii sports) from the games im used to.



Its simple, i judge a game based on how much fun i have playing it, which is the only reason I play games. I dont care what so and so thinks, or how much thought the developer put into it, or the cultural influences, or whatever. I have fun with Wii Sports when i have my parents over, who are grandparents... so your statement about old people and children isnt far off. But yeah, i have fun when i play it so its a good game. If a games gameplay is exceptional enough, it easily outweighs the graphics, and besides, wii sports is graphically clean. The characters and environment are simple, but thats obviously not the focus. The reason it has good gameplay is 100% because of the gimmicky wiimote.

Heres a list of sorta recent games that ive played that i am glad i spent the money on.

Shooter: Halflife2 (orange box), Bioshock, Gears of War (wtb CoD4)
Racing: Forza Motorsports 2, Need for Speed series, Pro Race Driver series is my alltime fav for racing, but i havent played Grid beyond the demo so i cant say much on that one.
RPG: If sticking to console, KotOR/KotOR2/Jade Empire/Mass Effect (all basically the same game imo), Oblivion
Sports: I've been very disappointed with sports titles lately, Fight Night is a great game.
Action/Adventure: GTA4, Crackdown
Platform: The last good platform game i played was Ratchet and Clank on PS2 >_> is there a new one on the PS3?

Anyway, thats the gist, im sure there are some i forgot.

PC games i like are WoW, WC3, Sims, Silent Hunter 3, Flight Simulator X, Crysis is freakin epic... but i need a new comp to really enjoy it.

Edited, Jul 24th 2008 9:02am by KTurner

im a perplexing person, what can i say.

Well it's not as if the wii doesn't have a good library at present, because at present it's beating the ps3 by miles (to be fair, what isn't?) and is lagging only slightly behind the 360.

I just can't think of much more that's going to come out in the next year, or ever, and that really is just sad. For both other relevant consoles there are years worth of games slated for release. After mario kart came out there was kind of nothing left in the works that appeals to me. I mean I"m sure wii fit is a great tool and entertaining way to manage weight but I'm not going to even consider "playing" (can it even be called playing?) it. That's not what I want out of a videogame console and (not like I didn't see it happening) the wii has expanded the market to such a broad audience that all I can do is cry about how great the super nintendo was.

It makes me feel as is nintendo just isn't all that interested in creating quality software, as if the classical series' inclusion would just be afterthoughts, soon as they finish with the token zelda and mario.