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#1 Aug 25 2008 at 7:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm feeling kinda nostalgic at the moment. I don't know what exactly caused it, but I think this is worth posting. Just to forewarn you, this will be a wall of text, so you can skip down a bit if you want to get to the point.

I started playing SWG the day it came out. My dates are serving me too well, but I remember it was about five years ago now. I had been following it for over a year by the time it was coming out, and for a teen, I think that takes a bit of dedication!

It's pretty crazy the first time you log onto a MMO. I think the first feeling I had when I played SWG was one of being overwhelmed. There was just so much stuff to do. I literally spent the first few days of playing just making new characters to try new things: crafting, entertaining, brawling, marksmanship, and so on. It was just sort of incredible the first time I pitched a tent on Naboo and sat around a fire talking to other players--other people. It really was a great feeling for that first month or so.

It took me a while to really understand how the game worked. My feeling of excitement at the vast amount of content didn't die down for some time afterward! My pattern of creating characters and playing them for a while before repeating this cycle dominated my play for sometime. I've now been able to diagnose this as altaholism, and boy did I have it bad. But I distinctly remember the day that I created my first true character--one that I stuck with.

Xeiheo Reasoblin was born on February 4, 2004. I say born because, sad as it may sound, that day really was momentous event of sorts. Ask anyone who I play with--hell, even talk to--over the internet now days what my handle is. The answer will always be "Xei". I will always feel a bit of a debt towards SWG's random name generator for bestowing that name upon me, as it really has grown to be a part of me. Xeiheo was also the first character I was really able to role-play with. And ask any good role-player you know these days who their first character was and what their schpeil was, and I bet you they'll remember! It was just such a great feeling, owning that second identity, and that euphoria has never washed off of me.

From here, I also created a role-playing guild which grew to, at a time, be quite influential on my server. Guild administration was something I knew nothing of when I first started playing SWG; now I run a guild on WoW that has recruited 20 new members in a little over a week! To say I owe the beginning of that 'career' to SWG would be a vast understatement.

I guess what I'm trying to get at with all of this is, I feel an enormous gratitude towards Star Wars Galaxies. I've said this a lot already, and it may seem lame or sad; however, I really do believe Star Wars Galaxies had a pretty big impact on me as a person.

I think I don't need to explain how I walked away from Star Wars Galaxies. After over two years of playing, I simply quit with the release of the NGE. After two years of play, I walked away because I simply lost interest in the product. For the longest time, I have had some deep animosity towards SOE and everyone else involved with SWG, but I'm now coming to a certain realization: that hatred gets us no where. The CU and NGE have come. SWG is never going to be the game I once thought it would be. Cynical? maybe; truthful? absolutely! But I mean this in the kindest way possible. What it all comes down to is SOE, like any other company, is a business. When they have a product that is no longer making the 'moniez,' then it is time for that product to be changed or cut. SOE decided to change it.

Now, my only complaint comes from this angle: why didn't SOE fix problems as they arose in the first place? I still firmly believe that the original dev team behind SWG was one of the best in the realm of video game designers. It is what enthralled me with the game at such a young age. But there were just too many problems that went unanswered. It is like some geniuses created this almighty blueprint for success and somewhere in the process from design to execution, things were lost in the translation.

I realize this has been long and ramble-ish, but I've just wanted to say all of this for some time now, and after looking over some of my old SWG screenshots and vids, well... when better than now?

Cheers!
#2 Aug 26 2008 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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The NGE hit the game pretty hard, the question of, why didnt they fix it instead of changing it, is one that has never been answered all that well, its old ground i know, and chances are we'll never know why... but i understand the nostalgia all too well, when i looked around my old homestead on dantooine/tarquinas i really had to wonder why it had to happen this way.. did we have too much do you think, too many choices, too much freedom to choose? i guess, it was brought home to me in particular by a posting on the official forums, about the GCW and why it was the core of the game, and how everything should be a part of it.. my comment that it wasnt was met with derision, as if being a neutral factioned player was some kind of disease. Its odd really, sometimes it seems that anything prior to the NGE just didnt happen, certainly player freedoms have never been so curtailed as they were by it. The game may be better than it was when the NGE was dropped on us, but, for anyone who enjoyed the game before, there is still so very much missing. Animations are basic and frequently at odds with the actions being carried out. But their still working on that apparently, despite this the game can be fun to play still. though not always consistently, there are times when i feel the urge to walk away. now, the time when it commanded my attention for hours on end though, are gone...
#3 Aug 26 2008 at 2:58 PM Rating: Default
hey 'dude i know we dint always agree on things here but good to see you back.

i read all the post- interesting read

SWG was my first PC MMORPG (i played EQ on PS2, which was rather basic) I still remember the first time logging in and being like wow at all the options, paths, and decisions to make. In a way I miss it, but then I realize how all the times sinks were personally ruining my social life. I'm barely picking up those social pieces now 5 years later.

the preCU complexity was really leaving me in the dust competitive wise, I started late as I didnt yet have a PC when SWG released, when NGE hit everyone was reduced to knowing nothing, and I saw my chance to rise up- like I was being given the equal start I never had. Maybe if I'd had experienced the first 4 months of preCU I would have felt more attached but I came the week the first Jedi unlocked, when the hologrind had reared its ugly head...

Anyway the NGE is NOTHING like it was in 05. Most of the twitch has been removed but there is still a shadow of twitch for those who prefer it. There are once again layers of complexity, which preCU had much of but much of those layers were redundant- bypassed by powergamers. Now the layers have meaning within the context of the game. Not trying to sell the NGE to you here but things are much much diferent now since the birth of NGE.

I understand having animosity towards SoE. I feel it because I feel its unfair of them to not let us transfer servers for free. It angers me that they deny ppl the right to play with other ppl unless they want to fork out $50 more than usual. If I recall you were on valcyn one time, fortunately valcyn has seen a slight increase in activity since game update 5. Which brought to us the new weapons crafting system, and i might go as far to say the weapon crafting is more complex now than it ever was. But anyway something still keeps me logging in to my munitions trader (weapon crafter) and spy (rogue).
#4 Aug 27 2008 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Jerok wrote:


I feel it because I feel its unfair of them to not let us transfer servers for free. It angers me that they deny ppl the right to play with other ppl unless they want to fork out $50 more than usual.

if they let people transfer servers for free, then people would transfer servers all willy nilly like, and the whole "denying ppl the right" thing, no one has any "right" to play with other people, besides, nothing is stopping you from playing with anybody, roll on a different server, there, more people.


#5 Aug 28 2008 at 11:02 PM Rating: Default
MasterOfWar wrote:
Jerok wrote:


I feel it because I feel its unfair of them to not let us transfer servers for free. It angers me that they deny ppl the right to play with other ppl unless they want to fork out $50 more than usual.

if they let people transfer servers for free, then people would transfer servers all willy nilly like, and the whole "denying ppl the right" thing, no one has any "right" to play with other people, besides, nothing is stopping you from playing with anybody, roll on a different server, there, more people.




your attempt at division is rather played out on more populated forums but i give you e for effort anywy..
#6 Aug 29 2008 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
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with all the necro posting going on.. i think its time we confiscated the o from his name.. ;D
#7 Aug 29 2008 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Jerok wrote:
MasterOfWar wrote:
Jerok wrote:


I feel it because I feel its unfair of them to not let us transfer servers for free. It angers me that they deny ppl the right to play with other ppl unless they want to fork out $50 more than usual.

if they let people transfer servers for free, then people would transfer servers all willy nilly like, and the whole "denying ppl the right" thing, no one has any "right" to play with other people, besides, nothing is stopping you from playing with anybody, roll on a different server, there, more people.




your attempt at division is rather played out on more populated forums but i give you e for effort anywy..

so in other words you have no actual counter to what i said and are just trying to make yourself sound smart.

E for effort though.
#8 Dec 05 2008 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I feel its unfair of them to not let us transfer servers for free. It angers me that they deny ppl the right to play with other ppl unless they want to fork out $50 more than usual.


Starting early 2009 they will be allowing free server transfers from low population servers to the medium population servers.

I have a feeling they are planning on doing that first then the merges for the rest of the people who decide not to go. Hopefully getting down to the 5 servers. My only problem with that is the servers can no longer handle that many people with all of the content the servers are storing. Which in turn, creates horrible...horrible lag
#9 Feb 03 2009 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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/cry

you all make me wanna come back!
#10 Feb 03 2009 at 4:36 PM Rating: Default
Then come back I did
#11 Feb 03 2009 at 4:50 PM Rating: Default
if you set all graphics options to low or disable them the lag goes away alot,
#12 Feb 03 2009 at 5:43 PM Rating: Default
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Come back to the game!! It is great and will continue to get better!! We need you back with us amongst the SWG living!!
#13 Feb 05 2009 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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moving forward is the future, swg remains in the past, sometimes its best to just let it lay.
#14 Feb 05 2009 at 1:28 PM Rating: Default
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cloudancer wrote:
moving forward is the future, swg remains in the past, sometimes its best to just let it lay.

or you could do whatever the hell you want to do and not listen to other people.

just because a game is old doesn't mean anything, EQ is still better than most mmos out there.

Edited, Feb 5th 2009 4:29pm by MasterOfWar
#15 Feb 06 2009 at 3:23 PM Rating: Default
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Yeah...dont listen to Cloudancer....come back to the game! (lol just giving you a shot Cloud..all in fun)
#16 Feb 07 2009 at 9:13 AM Rating: Decent
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walnutstain wrote:
Yeah...dont listen to Cloudancer....come back to the game! (lol just giving you a shot Cloud..all in fun)



im waiting until after the next chapter/update. hard to justify paying the subs if i can't even fit in the odd few hours of a week to play it. Another problem is that, if you are a neutral/non-pvp'er then there isnt that much to be done in game. maybe the next update will address that.
#17 Feb 07 2009 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent
please bare with me here as I just came back from well a long time away. What new publish ?
#18 Feb 10 2009 at 7:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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cloudancer wrote:



im waiting until after the next chapter/update. hard to justify paying the subs if i can't even fit in the odd few hours of a week to play it. Another problem is that, if you are a neutral/non-pvp'er then there isnt that much to be done in game. maybe the next update will address that.


still doing the old waiting for the next update to come along to re sub i see :P
#19 Feb 11 2009 at 1:28 AM Rating: Decent
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EmjayR wrote:
cloudancer wrote:



im waiting until after the next chapter/update. hard to justify paying the subs if i can't even fit in the odd few hours of a week to play it. Another problem is that, if you are a neutral/non-pvp'er then there isnt that much to be done in game. maybe the next update will address that.


still doing the old waiting for the next update to come along to re sub i see :P


i keep hoping, maybe one day the horse will sing ;D
#20 Feb 12 2009 at 9:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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cloudancer wrote:
EmjayR wrote:
cloudancer wrote:



im waiting until after the next chapter/update. hard to justify paying the subs if i can't even fit in the odd few hours of a week to play it. Another problem is that, if you are a neutral/non-pvp'er then there isnt that much to be done in game. maybe the next update will address that.


still doing the old waiting for the next update to come along to re sub i see :P


i keep hoping, maybe one day the horse will sing ;D


One day hon one day! its all gotta come good eventually :)
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