Anyone looking forward to this? After the abysmal third one, I'm a little scared to trust this one (and it would require me to buy an XBox 360 first, which I have no intentions of doing*).
I know they announced the shipping date alrady, which is why I am surprised the website seems to have no info and very little is known...
And the other surprising part is that it is 360 only, based on the horrible sales of the 360 in Japan.
So, anyone see something in it they really like?
*I have nothing against the 360 as a gaming machine, but it is unacceptable (in my opinion) for any product that has been released to break that often. It would drive me insane if it broke right in the middle of an RPG and I had to wait several weeks to start back up (and by that point, I would have forgotten half of what happened.
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IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
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Star Ocean 3 was awesome...it was just 20 50 100 times too long for any of the awesomeness to matter.
It had what I would rank as the worst ending of any RPG I have ever played.
It is such a shame too, because it had a lot of great characters (Maria and Cliff were my favorites). My huge problem with it?
The entire first disk essentially doesn't matter. It is ACTUALLY like two different parties were handed a list of characters with specific traits and asked to write a story, one ending in X location and one starting in Y location.
After that was said and done, they drew a single line from a part in the second story and connected it to the first.
I mean, why go through all the crap on the first two planets when it makes absolutely no difference? I mean, the stories were barely connected.
The ending boss you 300% didn't care about, because you hadn't even heard mention of him and/or her until 3/4 through the second disk (which, by the way, had essentially no character development).
Then the ending had practically no relevence to the rest of the game. I finished it, watched the ending and was like... "Wait... what? Who the hell did I just fight and why did he matter? Wait... IS THE GAME OVER? WTF?"
The plot twist could have been awesome if it incorporated the first half of the story. But I really just felt like they focus too much on BS, so you never CARE about the core message or plot line, because you don't even meet it until the game is almost over.
It is like if, in FFX, you played as Tidus in Zanarkand for a whole disk then, all of a sudden, you were in the Spira Zanarkand on your way to fight sin (who had never attacked your Zanarkand, but you had fought his Sinspawn). BUT, you had met ALL of the characters before hand and they were all equally as ignorant of the existence of Spira and Sin as you were.
Or, if in Star Wars, Luke stayed on Tatooine for the first and second movie, doing farmhand work and ignorant of any golactic war, and randomly fought Darth Vadar (who had never before had made an appearance) in the third movie. Would you care? Of course not.
Great Characters, great storyline for the first disk, craptacular storyline in the second and random-*** ending.
It is such a shame too, because it had a lot of great characters (Maria and Cliff were my favorites). My huge problem with it?
The entire first disk essentially doesn't matter. It is ACTUALLY like two different parties were handed a list of characters with specific traits and asked to write a story, one ending in X location and one starting in Y location.
After that was said and done, they drew a single line from a part in the second story and connected it to the first.
I mean, why go through all the crap on the first two planets when it makes absolutely no difference? I mean, the stories were barely connected.
The ending boss you 300% didn't care about, because you hadn't even heard mention of him and/or her until 3/4 through the second disk (which, by the way, had essentially no character development).
Then the ending had practically no relevence to the rest of the game. I finished it, watched the ending and was like... "Wait... what? Who the hell did I just fight and why did he matter? Wait... IS THE GAME OVER? WTF?"
The plot twist could have been awesome if it incorporated the first half of the story. But I really just felt like they focus too much on BS, so you never CARE about the core message or plot line, because you don't even meet it until the game is almost over.
It is like if, in FFX, you played as Tidus in Zanarkand for a whole disk then, all of a sudden, you were in the Spira Zanarkand on your way to fight sin (who had never attacked your Zanarkand, but you had fought his Sinspawn). BUT, you had met ALL of the characters before hand and they were all equally as ignorant of the existence of Spira and Sin as you were.
Or, if in Star Wars, Luke stayed on Tatooine for the first and second movie, doing farmhand work and ignorant of any golactic war, and randomly fought Darth Vadar (who had never before had made an appearance) in the third movie. Would you care? Of course not.
Great Characters, great storyline for the first disk, craptacular storyline in the second and random-*** ending.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
I had no idea another one was coming out. Add this to my list for when I get a 360...
As for TTEOT, I liked the game but agree with the plot problems. My main love of the game was the combat system anyway.
As for TTEOT, I liked the game but agree with the plot problems. My main love of the game was the combat system anyway.
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The combat system and characters were great in it, but they really should have either picked the plot from disc one or two and made a game on that, not have haphazardly spliced two of them. I'll explain what I mean for people who don't plan to play, but are curious.
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS AND SPOILERS
-You play Fayt, a college student, who is on vacation with his family and family-friend when the planet is attacked by a previously nuetral enemy.
-Your parents (talented scientists) seem to know something about why they would attack and you and your friend get separated from them.
-The rescue ship gets attacked, which is weird, because it is just carrying refugees. WHY I WONDER?
-You escape in pods, the ship's crew all die because of pod shortages due to refugees.
-You crash land on a planet (wihout your friend) and cannot mess up/influence the history of its developing peoples.
-You beat the crap out of an alien outlaw hiding on the planet with the help of a guy who kidnaps you afterwards. But, before he shows up, you get pissed and this blue light starts to appear near your forehead.
-His ship is attacked by the same enemy and you crash land again.
-You need to keep from ******** things up again.
-You get rescued by this person from prison and, in return, have to build her kingdom (who is at war with your jailors) a weapon.
-You spend HOURS AND HOURS doing missions around the world with this person. And the whole time you keep getting this really bad, random headaches.
-The Vandeeni (aliens) eventually attack a battlefield where the two kingdoms are fighting.
-The main character flips **** and destroys one of the alien battleships in half a second with some intense power and blacks out.
-The kidnapper's boss shows up. Turns out she has a special power too and sent him to get you. Turns out that your and her parents did some kind of genetic experiments together. You later find out that your best friend's (from the beginning) parents were also involved and did it to her as well).
-You fly to the moombase (Earth's moon) and these things called Reapers seem to have been destroying whole intergalactic civilizations in minutes and all the military defenses do crap.
-You go to your parent's lab (oh, your dad died eariler in the plot, btw, during an event where you get Sophia, the friend, back) and you find out something about this gateway to 4D space that the three of you have the power to open.
-You go there and access the gateway. Sometime around here is a new disc. SO, this has been a pretty cool story, right? Lots of intergalactic strife and hours and hours and hours dedicated to the conflict on that one planet?
-WEEEEEELLLLLL, turns out that your whole galaxy is just an MMO-like game in another world where people seem to create their characters from the genes of existing characters or something and the company that owns it has decided to "reset" your galaxy.
-So, you have to go to their headquarters and be like, "WTF, stop destorying our home."
-AND, they are like, "Ummmm, no, but we won't destroy you if you let us experiment on you, because you SHOULD be just data."
-You fight and it is fun because the enemies in this world are ALL OF A SUDDEN like 600x as hard as any enemy before.
-You spend several hours doing non-epic crap and end up is some theme park.
-You then find out that this one artifact on that planet you were on for hours and they VAGUELY MENTIONED has incredible meaning because it is a gateway or key to the creator's world... or something... I'm not sure what they were talking about.
-You spend hours running through this maze and meet and kill the creator, because he has taken away the "free will" that the game has developed.
-He deletes your world, OH NOES, and you dissappear... But only for a second, because it turns out your world has a soul of its own not connected to their world.
SO, you don't even hear about the creator until a millisecond before you are in the final dungeon. And, in the end, the world is restored to what it was before, random-*** wars and all.
The story was great before. There should have been some grand-maestro controlling everything IN THE F*CKING MILKY WAY GALAXY. Not some random as hell creator who DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
The minute you enter 4D space, the game just sucks. Its plot dissappears and you run around doing nothing of any real substance. The very fact that your are symbologically altered people (basically, your genes form special runes which give you unique powers) means next to nothing after that point. Fayt NEVER uses his incredible destructive power besides that one point against the ship. Maria (who can do something with matter conversion, or something) is able to read the 4D world's language, because she naturally converts the data into her own. Sophia (your friend) lets you access the "locked" world of the Milky Way galaxy with her space-time ability.
They put SO MUCH effort into making you think about what Fayt's special power is. They put SO MUCH effort into making you care about their unethical genetic alterations and NONE OF IT MATTERS FOR THE SECOND HALF OF THE GAME.
I mean, character development essentially stops the minute 4D starts.
IT SUCKS.
The first story-line was so good. And the second could have been good as a separate game where you are introduced to 4D earlier and actually have time to care about and interact with it. Not to mention that the Creator could have been introduced early on, like almost all other RPG villains (whether obvious or no).
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS AND SPOILERS
-You play Fayt, a college student, who is on vacation with his family and family-friend when the planet is attacked by a previously nuetral enemy.
-Your parents (talented scientists) seem to know something about why they would attack and you and your friend get separated from them.
-The rescue ship gets attacked, which is weird, because it is just carrying refugees. WHY I WONDER?
-You escape in pods, the ship's crew all die because of pod shortages due to refugees.
-You crash land on a planet (wihout your friend) and cannot mess up/influence the history of its developing peoples.
-You beat the crap out of an alien outlaw hiding on the planet with the help of a guy who kidnaps you afterwards. But, before he shows up, you get pissed and this blue light starts to appear near your forehead.
-His ship is attacked by the same enemy and you crash land again.
-You need to keep from ******** things up again.
-You get rescued by this person from prison and, in return, have to build her kingdom (who is at war with your jailors) a weapon.
-You spend HOURS AND HOURS doing missions around the world with this person. And the whole time you keep getting this really bad, random headaches.
-The Vandeeni (aliens) eventually attack a battlefield where the two kingdoms are fighting.
-The main character flips **** and destroys one of the alien battleships in half a second with some intense power and blacks out.
-The kidnapper's boss shows up. Turns out she has a special power too and sent him to get you. Turns out that your and her parents did some kind of genetic experiments together. You later find out that your best friend's (from the beginning) parents were also involved and did it to her as well).
-You fly to the moombase (Earth's moon) and these things called Reapers seem to have been destroying whole intergalactic civilizations in minutes and all the military defenses do crap.
-You go to your parent's lab (oh, your dad died eariler in the plot, btw, during an event where you get Sophia, the friend, back) and you find out something about this gateway to 4D space that the three of you have the power to open.
-You go there and access the gateway. Sometime around here is a new disc. SO, this has been a pretty cool story, right? Lots of intergalactic strife and hours and hours and hours dedicated to the conflict on that one planet?
-WEEEEEELLLLLL, turns out that your whole galaxy is just an MMO-like game in another world where people seem to create their characters from the genes of existing characters or something and the company that owns it has decided to "reset" your galaxy.
-So, you have to go to their headquarters and be like, "WTF, stop destorying our home."
-AND, they are like, "Ummmm, no, but we won't destroy you if you let us experiment on you, because you SHOULD be just data."
-You fight and it is fun because the enemies in this world are ALL OF A SUDDEN like 600x as hard as any enemy before.
-You spend several hours doing non-epic crap and end up is some theme park.
-You then find out that this one artifact on that planet you were on for hours and they VAGUELY MENTIONED has incredible meaning because it is a gateway or key to the creator's world... or something... I'm not sure what they were talking about.
-You spend hours running through this maze and meet and kill the creator, because he has taken away the "free will" that the game has developed.
-He deletes your world, OH NOES, and you dissappear... But only for a second, because it turns out your world has a soul of its own not connected to their world.
SO, you don't even hear about the creator until a millisecond before you are in the final dungeon. And, in the end, the world is restored to what it was before, random-*** wars and all.
The story was great before. There should have been some grand-maestro controlling everything IN THE F*CKING MILKY WAY GALAXY. Not some random as hell creator who DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
The minute you enter 4D space, the game just sucks. Its plot dissappears and you run around doing nothing of any real substance. The very fact that your are symbologically altered people (basically, your genes form special runes which give you unique powers) means next to nothing after that point. Fayt NEVER uses his incredible destructive power besides that one point against the ship. Maria (who can do something with matter conversion, or something) is able to read the 4D world's language, because she naturally converts the data into her own. Sophia (your friend) lets you access the "locked" world of the Milky Way galaxy with her space-time ability.
They put SO MUCH effort into making you think about what Fayt's special power is. They put SO MUCH effort into making you care about their unethical genetic alterations and NONE OF IT MATTERS FOR THE SECOND HALF OF THE GAME.
I mean, character development essentially stops the minute 4D starts.
IT SUCKS.
The first story-line was so good. And the second could have been good as a separate game where you are introduced to 4D earlier and actually have time to care about and interact with it. Not to mention that the Creator could have been introduced early on, like almost all other RPG villains (whether obvious or no).
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
I never did finish star ocean 3. It's plot kind of read like introductory philosophy of mind, as if someone had just read a bunch of different philosophy of will and made some amalgam of a game from it.
..Why would they make a Star Ocean game exclusively for the least popular system in Japan, as a Japanese-based company? It would be like..I don't know..trying to give a cat a bone meant for a Great Dane..its just illogical...and of course they're taking one of my favorite series and throwing it onto my least favorite system >.<
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