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#1 Nov 23 2008 at 5:55 PM Rating: Good
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Apparently Nintendo is trying to get back into the shooter controller market after they ended their plans previously with the Super Scope for SNES.

Nintendo and Nerf has partnered together to create a line of Nerf weapons in which you can attach a Wii remote to play an upcoming line of Nerf-style FPS.

While I have no problems with this style of games, I'm gonna call hypocrisy if no one protests the games for being "too violent" and for teaching younger kids how to shoot.
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#2 Nov 23 2008 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, Jack Thompson holds no power anymore... so hopefully the protests will die down.
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#3 Nov 24 2008 at 5:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nintendo Trying To Be Hardcore Again?

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#4 Nov 24 2008 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Nintendo never was hardcore. You can't count those NES **** games either.

It always has and always will be carebears, rainbows and cutesy japanese anime crap.
#5 Nov 24 2008 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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MentalFrog wrote:
Nintendo never was hardcore. You can't count those NES **** games either.

It always has and always will be carebears, rainbows and cutesy japanese anime crap.


Operation Thunderbolt

Battle Clash

Super Scope 6

Pretty hardcore compared to other games at that time.

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#6 Nov 24 2008 at 12:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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NERF THE NINTENDO WII!
#7 Nov 24 2008 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
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More gimmicks. Still waiting for Nintendo to give me another gmae to buy for their system.
#8 Nov 24 2008 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
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The last game I got for Wii was SSBB, and tbh I rarely play that anymore. I agree with Allegory 100% here; the only time I've played my Wii since last semester has been this last week since I've been replaying Twilight Princess (speaking of which, I'd like another Zelda game while they're at it).
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#9 Nov 25 2008 at 7:51 AM Rating: Decent
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More gimmicks. Still waiting for Nintendo to give me another gmae to buy for their system.


Tales of Symphonia 2 just came out. It's pretty damn awesome.

But otherwise I still (regretfully) agree with you.
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I've been replaying Twilight Princess (speaking of which, I'd like another Zelda game while they're at it)


There will probably be one. Every Zelda game made so far has had a sequal

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Compared to the @#%^ing xbox which just released

Last Remnant
Infinite Undiscovery
Fable 2
and soon Star Ocean 4 and FFXIII

wtf is going on when the Xbox has the best and largest rpg selection of any system. They are getting close to eclipsing the damn DS!

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Edited, Nov 25th 2008 10:53am by Pensive
#10 Nov 25 2008 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I would enjoy a direct Twilight Princess sequel. Midna is my absolute favorite character from the Zelda series, and all throughout TP I was waiting for the moment she would betray--I had falsely assumed she was using me purely to further her own goals.

I've become disenchanted with RPGs. None seem to offer what I want, and I really do't believe my wants are a niche segment. There are generally two types of RPGs I see now, western and japanese.

Western RPGs bore the crap out of me. Games such as Fable, Oblivion, and The Witcher fit this category. their biggest flaw is that they are more RP than game, some mutilated version of D&D without the company of friends. They usually focus around a single character who is essentially a stand in for the player. Parties are far more interesting both in game play and in story, but western RPGs seem to have an obsession with throwing these glorious dynamics into the trash. They also tend to be heavily decision based, which also has problems for both the story and game play. Since the player is supposed to make storyline decisions for the character this often leaves little room to give the main character any personality of his own. It's also hard to design a decent story around key climaxes the character can choose to avoid. How can the writers develop a strong motif where the main character is haunted by murdering his own mother if the player is allowed to choose to save her? Silliness. In game play the player is given all these options to explore, but can only choose one of them. A game doesn't become more interesting by improving all the things a player can do, but by improving all the things a player is doing. If you give me 1000 skill path options I'm still just as bored being locked into only one of those paths for 50 hours of game play as I am if you had only given me one option to start with. Since there is usually only one main character all these options are wasted or set aside for a second play through. Additionally the game becomes very difficult to balance. Often out of the 3-10 skill path options one will be optimal. Sure you can build your character however you want, but there is only one right way to build him, and doing anything else means you are inferior. A travesty of game play.

The flaws of Japanese RPGs lay mostly in the fact that the designers are... Japanese. For some reason the Japanese seem to have a predilection for all that is annoying, bothersome, and frustrating. You know that ultimate weapon you want? Yeah you can only get it if you haven't opened these unremarkable chests throughout the whole game, and we won't tell you about this ahead of time. They give you many characters to choose from to form your party, but often force you to level them up individually. They also often poorly design characters in regards to balance, creating an optimal party configuration that trumps all others. Combat decisions are often overly simplistic--buff/debuff, heal when low on health, otherwise use your strongest attack.
#11 Nov 25 2008 at 4:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Pensive wrote:

Compared to the @#%^ing xbox which just released

Last Remnant
Infinite Undiscovery
Fable 2
and soon Star Ocean 4 and FFXIII

wtf is going on when the Xbox has the best and largest rpg selection of any system. They are getting close to eclipsing the damn DS!


Because, like it or not, the PS3 is still hard to come by for many people compared the Xbox 360 which is in large supply. I think that 3rd party game creators realize that it's a huge resource for sales. Especially Square Enix.

And I'm sure Microsoft has realized that RPGs are a huge portion of the gaming world, and FPS games should be played on the PC only!
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#12 Nov 25 2008 at 8:45 PM Rating: Good
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MentalFrog wrote:
Nintendo never was hardcore.

No?
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#13 Nov 25 2008 at 9:56 PM Rating: Good
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EA and Hasbro are also developing a Nerf N-strike game for the Nintendo DS, though it's not yet known if it will ship with the Switch Shot blaster.
Smiley: lolhow the f*ck are they going to use a nerf gun on a ds?!
#14 Nov 26 2008 at 1:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I would enjoy a direct Twilight Princess sequel. Midna is my absolute favorite character from the Zelda series, and all throughout TP I was waiting for the moment she would betray--I had falsely assumed she was using me purely to further her own goals.


I know right? It was the holy sh*t moment of a lifetime when I realized who the title of the game was actually referring to, not to mention the final boss was one of my favorite ever done.

Personally, I'm a fan of rpgs both western and japanese. It's hands down my favorite genre. You've never played suikoden have you allegory? It's a fantastic series (except for number 4 which was mediocre). Think a plotline similar to ff12 but with really good characters.

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Because, like it or not, the PS3 is still hard to come by for many people compared the Xbox 360 which is in large supply. I think that 3rd party game creators realize that it's a huge resource for sales. Especially Square Eni


Not complaining about it. I'm personally thrilled.

Edited, Nov 26th 2008 4:41pm by Pensive
#15 Nov 26 2008 at 2:32 PM Rating: Good
<3 Suikoden.
Have only played the first one, but it's still one of my favourite rpg's to date.
I loved the big war sections.
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#17 Nov 26 2008 at 4:54 PM Rating: Good
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Whatever they are doing they are doing good,according to recent sales charts. They might not appeal to the hardcore blood and guts crowd, but they are on top of the sales charts.

Edited, Nov 26th 2008 5:54pm by Kyrin
#18 Nov 26 2008 at 8:43 PM Rating: Good
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I lost faith in the Wii. I actually tried to sell it but nobody wanted to buy it. All the games for it seem like Playstation 2 games that make use of the controller (and in many cases just make the game more difficult then using a normal controller IMO).

I was looking forward to Animal Crossing until I scene its just the same old crap with nothing majorly new about it. They are scared to death to use any kind of on-line support for there games without the annoying friend codes. The few games that don't require friend codes give you little to no way to communicate (IE mario kart DS). Anytime there is a multi platform game released that makes it to the wii it looks like crap compared to the 360/ps3 version (IE COT3).

The last exclusive title I enjoyed on the Wii was Mario Galaxy. It was actually a pretty good game.
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