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#1 Dec 13 2008 at 3:52 AM Rating: Default
Hi all
Has anyone else noticed a general decline in turbines support?
lately it seems they are more apt to pat them selves on the back for the awards the game is up for then fix things, and the fact that you can only get tech support mon-fri 12-9 pm seems a bit lame with a new expansion just coming out and all they really should log some extra hours.

I have been having trouble with the logon server connection failed message on both my computers since moria came out. My guy has also been getting stuck in the same place over and over. So i did everything they have listed to do and when that didn't work i sent an email saying i followed all the steps you have listed please help thier response was delete everything u did and do it again lol.

Also why is it when they respond to an email they just put the customer experience team and not a real name on the bottom of it. Well ok im sure some one will kill me for this post so just to be clear i love the game still, and have two lifetime accounts (one for the wife) we just left swg about a year ago this month and turbine feels like its starting down the SOE road which makes me sad.
so please be nice.Smiley: smile
#2 Dec 13 2008 at 3:44 PM Rating: Good
jbills wrote:
Has anyone else noticed a general decline in turbines support?

No, I haven't. I've been around since alpha and to me, the whole Turbine staff still seems to be kicking ***.

jbills wrote:
lately it seems they are more apt to pat them selves on the back for the awards the game is up for then fix things

What would you like them to do, reject the nominations and awards with a self effacing "no, we don't deserve it"?
It's called promotion and shouldn't be regarded as a personal affront just because you are having issues ingame.


jbills wrote:
and the fact that you can only get tech support mon-fri 12-9 pm seems a bit lame with a new expansion just coming out and all they really should log some extra hours.

Are those East Coast hours? Because Turbine is an East Coast company so noon for them would be 9AM for the West coast. Which (IMHO) is a reasonable time for them to open. And closing at 9PM there would be 6PM on the West coast. Again, a reasonable time to close for the evening, no?

jbills wrote:
I have been having trouble with the logon server connection failed message on both my computers since moria came out. My guy has also been getting stuck in the same place over and over. So i did everything they have listed to do and when that didn't work i sent an email saying i followed all the steps you have listed please help thier response was delete everything u did and do it again lol.

Detailing a repeatable problem is often the first step in trouble shooting. By asking you to start fresh you can possibly create a situation that can be repeated and is therefore traceable. This suggestion is as logical as recommending that you re-boot.

jbills wrote:
Also why is it when they respond to an email they just put the customer experience team and not a real name on the bottom of it.

Because customer service isn't a "personal" kind of department. Anyone there should be able to pick up your problem and work it. Your file should be available to the entire team and not just the guy who first responded to you.

jbills wrote:
Well ok im sure some one will kill me for this post... so please be nice.

Sorry but as soon as you post the thread you open the door to response from the general population here.
You don't get to specify what type of responses are acceptable to you.





Edited, Dec 13th 2008 3:47pm by OldBlueDragon
#3 Dec 13 2008 at 9:53 PM Rating: Decent
OldBlueDragon wrote:
What would you like them to do, reject the nominations and awards with a self effacing "no, we don't deserve it"?
It's called promotion and shouldn't be regarded as a personal affront just because you are having issues ingame.


I would like them to fix critical flaws like people not being able to log into their main because an item they have is causing a crash.
before they post were up for this REWARD for our great game, that you may not be able to play because you have a certain item equipped.


OldBlueDragon wrote:
Are those East Coast hours? Because Turbine is an East Coast company so noon for them would be 9AM for the West coast. Which (IMHO) is a reasonable time for them to open. And closing at 9PM there would be 6PM on the West coast. Again, a reasonable time to close for the evening, no?

No that is not reasonable when they offer a product that is open 24 hrs a day, further more you think its okay that people can't get help on the weekend?
How many people can only play on the weekend? So what their just out of luck that weekend their having trouble? What if you work 9-6 on the west coast when are you supposed to be able to get help? Send an email Monday before you go to work get a response Monday during the day it doesn't work send an email Monday night get a response Tuesday sometime during the day it doesn't work. That does not seem fair to keep people out of a game they pay to play.

OldBlueDragon wrote:

Detailing a repeatable problem is often the first step in trouble shooting. By asking you to start fresh you can possibly create a situation that can be repeated and is therefore traceable. This suggestion is as logical as recommending that you re-boot.


I will agree with you on that point.

OldBlueDragon wrote:
Because customer service isn't a "personal" kind of department. Anyone there should be able to pick up your problem and work it. Your file should be available to the entire team and not just the guy who first responded to you.

agreed anyone there should be able to work on the problem. Customer service is a personal kind of department it is often the last department that can keep some one from stopping use of a product by fixing the problem they have. A name should be at the bottom so they can be held accountable for the service they are providing to the Customer.
OldBlueDragon wrote:
Sorry but as soon as you post the thread you open the door to response from the general population here.
You don't get to specify what type of responses are acceptable to you.

Did i say only respond if you are going to be nice? No i asked you to be nice big difference but hey I enjoyed your opinion.

Edited, Dec 13th 2008 10:07pm by jbills
#4 Dec 14 2008 at 5:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but they fixed the crashing due to one particular item in patch 1. Have you tried actually posting on the tech support forums with your computer details?
#5 Dec 14 2008 at 9:40 PM Rating: Decent
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No that is not reasonable when they offer a product that is open 24 hrs a day, further more you think its okay that people can't get help on the weekend?
How many people can only play on the weekend? So what their just out of luck that weekend their having trouble? What if you work 9-6 on the west coast when are you supposed to be able to get help? Send an email Monday before you go to work get a response Monday during the day it doesn't work send an email Monday night get a response Tuesday sometime during the day it doesn't work. That does not seem fair to keep people out of a game they pay to play.


Smiley: oyvey

So just because a Grocery store offers a product that you can use any of the 24 hours in a day, but normally isn't open 24 hours a day, you think they should be, just in case something is wrong with it so that you can return it?

Most claims, they can handle during their business. These people DO have families and social lives, you know. Just because they work for a computer gaming company doesn't mean that they are exempt from those items. They're required to go into an office every day, they don't work from home, and I'm sure they have better things to do (especially this close to the holidays) than spend every waking hour worrying about things that are going on in-game.
#6 Dec 14 2008 at 11:54 PM Rating: Default
I think people should be able to go home to their families.
I'm very sorry if you think i am mad at the support staff im not i think
they do an awesome job the few other problems i have had in game like quests being bugged have been handled with blazing speed by the in game support and reading the tech support forums i see guys like farlander who works for turbine are awesome at responding with great info. I Just think turbine should hire more people to deal with problems they know are going to pop up when they release a new xpansion and xpand the tech support hours. your grocery store thing was a good point. I have never shopped at a grocery store that has advertised a subscription product is open to the public for a fee 24hrs a day personally though, and most grocery stores are open from about 6am to 12am so you really don't have to wait to long to return a bad product also they would give you a refund or a credit if the product they sold you was no good turbine is not about to give any game time credit out.

I have since found that my problem is under investigation because it is affecting allot of people. If the problem was on my end i wouldn't care but clearly it is on their end. To me it just feels like since book 14 went live they have not really been in a big hurry to fix trouble we had server wide lag and rubberbanding for a month after book 14 that seems a bit long i didnt really mind the lag to much but allot of people met their doom on swift travel horse routes from it.

When moria came out i had friends that could not get into the game for seven hours because the world queue was full turbine probably has a good idea what the system can handle and im sure they new how many xpansions they sold to us pre order folks they didnt even warn people that the world queue thing could happen, but as soon as they are up for an award bang you get a message posted.

Anyhow seeing you guys respond with such passion gives me hope that the support here has been really good so far and i'm just having a bad run i'm sure it will get better later guys/gals

Edited, Dec 15th 2008 12:10am by jbills
#7 Jan 03 2009 at 7:40 AM Rating: Default
ahhhh yes all of our game clocks are set to the wrong time. turbine just made my point for me!!! This exact problem happened 7 months ago on the test sever so they new it could happen and kinda dropped the ball if you want to play lotro today reset your pc's clock to yesterday all of your daily quests that you did on the 2nd will be on cooldown but you will be able to play go lotro support.


Edited, Jan 3rd 2009 7:41am by jbills
#8 Jan 03 2009 at 11:03 AM Rating: Excellent
So you come back 2 weeks later and necro post to your own thread just to **** and moan some more and to say "I told you so"?

I get it, you think Turbine support is poor. You want to play and something you think they did got in your way so you're pissy about it. Good for you, now get over it.
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