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#27 Jan 17 2009 at 8:52 AM Rating: Good
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Back on topic. The bottom of the screen from the link says "©2009 Marvelous Entertainment Inc." so I don't think it is anything Zelda related.


You mean besides the Triforce shaped clock and the Triforce pattern printed on the clock's face? Riiiighht.
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Back on topic. The bottom of the screen from the link says "©2009 Marvelous Entertainment Inc." so I don't think it is anything Zelda related.


I was curious about that too, so I looked them up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvelous_Entertainment

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Marvelous Entertainment USA (MMV USA)

In May 2005 MMV established Marvelous Entertainment USA (MMV USA), but it was not until 2007 in an interview with Yasuhiro Wada that he revealed MMV was searching for a distribution partner to launch the branch,[5] just as it did with Rising Star Games in Europe. MMV consulted with numerous corporations for 2 years before finalizing a deal.

On May 9, 2008, MMV announced that it will be partnering up with XSEED Games to co-publish games in North America.[6] In a follow up interview with Yasuhiro Wada, he revealed localizing MMV titles will be pivotal, but there are plans to publish titles from other companies as well. MMV has titles in development for all platforms, but there is a focus on Wii and DS and upcoming announcements will reflect that accordingly. MMV USA is being headed solely by Takeshi Inoue, plans are to expand over the next 3-5 years to 10 people.[7]


So I think it's entirely possible that it can be Zelda.

edit: And if you look at the rest of that wiki article, most of what the company has done is Japanese related, so partnering with Nintendo from the very beginning (i.e. for the Japanese version) is entirely possible.

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#30 Jan 17 2009 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Back on topic. The bottom of the screen from the link says "©2009 Marvelous Entertainment Inc." so I don't think it is anything Zelda related.


You mean besides the Triforce shaped clock and the Triforce pattern printed on the clock's face? Riiiighht.


Because triangle patterns never existed before Zelda.
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#31 Jan 17 2009 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
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Back on topic. The bottom of the screen from the link says "©2009 Marvelous Entertainment Inc." so I don't think it is anything Zelda related.


You mean besides the Triforce shaped clock and the Triforce pattern printed on the clock's face? Riiiighht.


Because triangle patterns never existed before Zelda.


I don't know, this particular clock seems pretty Zelda related to me. I don't know what other game uses that particular symbol
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#32 Jan 17 2009 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Vataro, Eater of Souls wrote:
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Back on topic. The bottom of the screen from the link says "©2009 Marvelous Entertainment Inc." so I don't think it is anything Zelda related.


You mean besides the Triforce shaped clock and the Triforce pattern printed on the clock's face? Riiiighht.


Because triangle patterns never existed before Zelda.


I don't know, this particular clock seems pretty Zelda related to me. I don't know what other game uses that particular symbol


A game that wishes it was Zelda. I see ripoffs like that all the time.

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Even so, the "triforce" symbol does not exclusively belong to the Zelda franchise. The symbol is used in Matsue Castle, for example.

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#33 Jan 17 2009 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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Kuwoobie wrote:
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Back on topic. The bottom of the screen from the link says "©2009 Marvelous Entertainment Inc." so I don't think it is anything Zelda related.


You mean besides the Triforce shaped clock and the Triforce pattern printed on the clock's face? Riiiighht.


Because triangle patterns never existed before Zelda.


I don't know, this particular clock seems pretty Zelda related to me. I don't know what other game uses that particular symbol


A game that wishes it was Zelda. I see ripoffs like that all the time.

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Even so, the "triforce" symbol does not exclusively belong to the Zelda franchise. The symbol is used in Matsue Castle, for example.

Edited, Jan 17th 2009 1:21pm by Kuwoobie


Is Matsue Castle supposed to be a game, or is it just the castle that's on Wikipedia?

Also, what "ripoffs" are we talking about here? Do you mean stuff like Okami, that has very similar gameplay elements and was influenced by the Zelda franchise, or something much more obvious?

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#34 Jan 17 2009 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Vataro, Eater of Souls wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
Vataro, Eater of Souls wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
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Kuwoobie wrote:
Back on topic. The bottom of the screen from the link says "©2009 Marvelous Entertainment Inc." so I don't think it is anything Zelda related.


You mean besides the Triforce shaped clock and the Triforce pattern printed on the clock's face? Riiiighht.


Because triangle patterns never existed before Zelda.


I don't know, this particular clock seems pretty Zelda related to me. I don't know what other game uses that particular symbol


A game that wishes it was Zelda. I see ripoffs like that all the time.

Edit:

Even so, the "triforce" symbol does not exclusively belong to the Zelda franchise. The symbol is used in Matsue Castle, for example.

Edited, Jan 17th 2009 1:21pm by Kuwoobie


Is Matsue Castle supposed to be a game, or is it just the castle that's on Wikipedia?

Also, what "ripoffs" are we talking about here? Do you mean stuff like Okami, that has very similar gameplay elements and was influenced by the Zelda franchise, or something much more obvious?



I mean games ripping each other off in general-- particularly games made by companies nobody's ever heard of. Also Matsue Castle is an actual place that was built in the 1600 that carries the "triforce" symbol. The triforce is also seen in Star Trek, among other things.
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#35 Jan 17 2009 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Kuwoobie wrote:
Also Matsue Castle is an actual place that was built in the 1600 that carries the "triforce" symbol. The triforce is also seen in Star Trek, among other things.


"among other things."

Go back to google, those two things are pretty much the only things. And pretty much Zero video games.
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#36 Jan 17 2009 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Also Matsue Castle is an actual place that was built in the 1600 that carries the "triforce" symbol. The triforce is also seen in Star Trek, among other things.


"among other things."

Go back to google, those two things are pretty much the only things. And pretty much Zero video games.


Why does it have to be particularly video games? Is there some doctrine that allows for only video games to rip off of each other?
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#37 Jan 17 2009 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Kuwoobie wrote:
Vataro, Eater of Souls wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
Vataro, Eater of Souls wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
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Back on topic. The bottom of the screen from the link says "©2009 Marvelous Entertainment Inc." so I don't think it is anything Zelda related.


You mean besides the Triforce shaped clock and the Triforce pattern printed on the clock's face? Riiiighht.


Because triangle patterns never existed before Zelda.


I don't know, this particular clock seems pretty Zelda related to me. I don't know what other game uses that particular symbol


A game that wishes it was Zelda. I see ripoffs like that all the time.

Edit:

Even so, the "triforce" symbol does not exclusively belong to the Zelda franchise. The symbol is used in Matsue Castle, for example.

Edited, Jan 17th 2009 1:21pm by Kuwoobie


Is Matsue Castle supposed to be a game, or is it just the castle that's on Wikipedia?

Also, what "ripoffs" are we talking about here? Do you mean stuff like Okami, that has very similar gameplay elements and was influenced by the Zelda franchise, or something much more obvious?



I mean games ripping each other off in general-- particularly games made by companies nobody's ever heard of. Also Matsue Castle is an actual place that was built in the 1600 that carries the "triforce" symbol. The triforce is also seen in Star Trek, among other things.


The stacked triangles (what the Zelda calls the "Triforce") has of course been used by many other things. I'm sure many of them got it from Sierpinski's Triangle. Just because it's in use elsewhere doesn't mean that this isn't going to be Zelda.

Forgive me for this bit of speculation, but it seems to me that the bottom symbols, i.e. the group of 2 and the single 1 triangle, make it more apparent that it's Zelda; although all these other sources you like to mention use similar symbols, I don't think that they have it broken up like the Zelda franchise does; the 2 could very well be the Triforces of Courage and Wisdom, while the single one is the Triforce of Power. Or you know, something similar.

And I'm still waiting for another game that uses the symbol, since we're talking about a game here.
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#38 Jan 17 2009 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Kuwoobie wrote:
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Kuwoobie wrote:
Also Matsue Castle is an actual place that was built in the 1600 that carries the "triforce" symbol. The triforce is also seen in Star Trek, among other things.


"among other things."

Go back to google, those two things are pretty much the only things. And pretty much Zero video games.


Why does it have to be particularly video games? Is there some doctrine that allows for only video games to rip off of each other?


Because that's what we're talking about; a video game.
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#39 Jan 17 2009 at 10:55 AM Rating: Default
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Vataro, Eater of Souls wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
Also Matsue Castle is an actual place that was built in the 1600 that carries the "triforce" symbol. The triforce is also seen in Star Trek, among other things.


"among other things."

Go back to google, those two things are pretty much the only things. And pretty much Zero video games.


Why does it have to be particularly video games? Is there some doctrine that allows for only video games to rip off of each other?


Because that's what we're talking about; a video game.


So because no other "video game" has used the 3 triangle pattern other than Zelda, no one ever will?
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Kuwoobie, when you walk down the road and see a stack of bricks set up in a perfect pyramid shape... do you assume they fell out of a truck carrying bricks, and just happened to land that way?
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#41 Jan 17 2009 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Kuwoobie wrote:
Vataro, Eater of Souls wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
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Also Matsue Castle is an actual place that was built in the 1600 that carries the "triforce" symbol. The triforce is also seen in Star Trek, among other things.


"among other things."

Go back to google, those two things are pretty much the only things. And pretty much Zero video games.


Why does it have to be particularly video games? Is there some doctrine that allows for only video games to rip off of each other?


Because that's what we're talking about; a video game.


So because no other "video game" has used the 3 triangle pattern other than Zelda, no one ever will?


Probably not so obviously. I admit ignorance on most Japanese laws, but I would be surprised if Nintendo didn't have something resembling a trademark on the symbol.
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#42 Jan 17 2009 at 11:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Kuwoobie, when you walk down the road and see a stack of bricks set up in a perfect pyramid shape... do you assume they fell out of a truck carrying bricks, and just happened to land that way?


That is not even remotely comparable.
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Kuwoobie wrote:
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Kuwoobie, when you walk down the road and see a stack of bricks set up in a perfect pyramid shape... do you assume they fell out of a truck carrying bricks, and just happened to land that way?


That is not even remotely comparable.


How so? The mostly likely thing to have happened...

You have a countdown website that shows a Triforce like symbol, colorful graphics, and what appears to be control over time.
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#44 Jan 17 2009 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
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TirithRR wrote:
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Kuwoobie, when you walk down the road and see a stack of bricks set up in a perfect pyramid shape... do you assume they fell out of a truck carrying bricks, and just happened to land that way?


That is not even remotely comparable.


How so? The mostly likely thing to have happened...

You have a countdown website that shows a Triforce like symbol, colorful graphics, and what appears to be control over time.


Besides the triforce symbol, both of the other two concepts you mention have been used in other games. I don't really care to list them for you, though, they should be obvious anyway.

Nobody is certain it will be a Zelda game. There is no way you can compare a vague pattern of triangles coinciding with another game to bricks falling off a truck and making a perfectly stacked pyramid.
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#45 Jan 17 2009 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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Kuwoobie wrote:
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Kuwoobie, when you walk down the road and see a stack of bricks set up in a perfect pyramid shape... do you assume they fell out of a truck carrying bricks, and just happened to land that way?


That is not even remotely comparable.


How so? The mostly likely thing to have happened...

You have a countdown website that shows a Triforce like symbol, colorful graphics, and what appears to be control over time.


Besides the triforce symbol, both of the other two concepts you mention have been used in other games. I don't really care to list them for you, though, they should be obvious anyway.

Nobody is certain it will be a Zelda game. There is no way you can compare a vague pattern of triangles coinciding with another game to bricks falling off a truck and making a perfectly stacked pyramid.


Respond to my retort damnit! Smiley: frown

I will say that I think you are being unreasonably pessimistic. Your skepticism is warranted, sure, but I think your argument isn't as sound as you think. I guess we'll see next week though!
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Kuwoobie wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
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Kuwoobie, when you walk down the road and see a stack of bricks set up in a perfect pyramid shape... do you assume they fell out of a truck carrying bricks, and just happened to land that way?


That is not even remotely comparable.


How so? The mostly likely thing to have happened...

You have a countdown website that shows a Triforce like symbol, colorful graphics, and what appears to be control over time.


Besides the triforce symbol, both of the other two concepts you mention have been used in other games. I don't really care to list them for you, though, they should be obvious anyway.

Nobody is certain it will be a Zelda game. There is no way you can compare a vague pattern of triangles coinciding with another game to bricks falling off a truck and making a perfectly stacked pyramid.


But, if you had to wager money on it.

Would you gamble your money on it being a Zelda game or would you gamble it on the chance it being a non Zelda related game?
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#47 Jan 17 2009 at 11:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Vataro, Eater of Souls wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
Kuwoobie, when you walk down the road and see a stack of bricks set up in a perfect pyramid shape... do you assume they fell out of a truck carrying bricks, and just happened to land that way?


That is not even remotely comparable.


How so? The mostly likely thing to have happened...

You have a countdown website that shows a Triforce like symbol, colorful graphics, and what appears to be control over time.


Besides the triforce symbol, both of the other two concepts you mention have been used in other games. I don't really care to list them for you, though, they should be obvious anyway.

Nobody is certain it will be a Zelda game. There is no way you can compare a vague pattern of triangles coinciding with another game to bricks falling off a truck and making a perfectly stacked pyramid.


Respond to my retort damnit! Smiley: frown

I will say that I think you are being unreasonably pessimistic. Your skepticism is warranted, sure, but I think your argument isn't as sound as you think. I guess we'll see next week though!


All I'm saying is, you cannot say for certain that it will absolutely be a Zelda game. I'm not saying that it won't be.
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Kuwoobie wrote:
Vataro, Eater of Souls wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
Kuwoobie, when you walk down the road and see a stack of bricks set up in a perfect pyramid shape... do you assume they fell out of a truck carrying bricks, and just happened to land that way?


That is not even remotely comparable.


How so? The mostly likely thing to have happened...

You have a countdown website that shows a Triforce like symbol, colorful graphics, and what appears to be control over time.


Besides the triforce symbol, both of the other two concepts you mention have been used in other games. I don't really care to list them for you, though, they should be obvious anyway.

Nobody is certain it will be a Zelda game. There is no way you can compare a vague pattern of triangles coinciding with another game to bricks falling off a truck and making a perfectly stacked pyramid.


Respond to my retort damnit! Smiley: frown

I will say that I think you are being unreasonably pessimistic. Your skepticism is warranted, sure, but I think your argument isn't as sound as you think. I guess we'll see next week though!


All I'm saying is, you cannot say for certain that it will absolutely be a Zelda game. I'm not saying that it won't be.


And I'm saying that the scales are tipped favorably towards a Zelda game.
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#49 Jan 17 2009 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
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TirithRR wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
Vataro, Eater of Souls wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
Kuwoobie, when you walk down the road and see a stack of bricks set up in a perfect pyramid shape... do you assume they fell out of a truck carrying bricks, and just happened to land that way?


That is not even remotely comparable.


How so? The mostly likely thing to have happened...

You have a countdown website that shows a Triforce like symbol, colorful graphics, and what appears to be control over time.


Besides the triforce symbol, both of the other two concepts you mention have been used in other games. I don't really care to list them for you, though, they should be obvious anyway.

Nobody is certain it will be a Zelda game. There is no way you can compare a vague pattern of triangles coinciding with another game to bricks falling off a truck and making a perfectly stacked pyramid.


Respond to my retort damnit! Smiley: frown

I will say that I think you are being unreasonably pessimistic. Your skepticism is warranted, sure, but I think your argument isn't as sound as you think. I guess we'll see next week though!


All I'm saying is, you cannot say for certain that it will absolutely be a Zelda game. I'm not saying that it won't be.


And I'm saying that the scales are tipped favorably towards a Zelda game.


I'd say they're about even. I wouldn't bet money either way.
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Kuwoobie wrote:
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Kuwoobie wrote:
Vataro, Eater of Souls wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
Kuwoobie, when you walk down the road and see a stack of bricks set up in a perfect pyramid shape... do you assume they fell out of a truck carrying bricks, and just happened to land that way?


That is not even remotely comparable.


How so? The mostly likely thing to have happened...

You have a countdown website that shows a Triforce like symbol, colorful graphics, and what appears to be control over time.


Besides the triforce symbol, both of the other two concepts you mention have been used in other games. I don't really care to list them for you, though, they should be obvious anyway.

Nobody is certain it will be a Zelda game. There is no way you can compare a vague pattern of triangles coinciding with another game to bricks falling off a truck and making a perfectly stacked pyramid.


Respond to my retort damnit! Smiley: frown

I will say that I think you are being unreasonably pessimistic. Your skepticism is warranted, sure, but I think your argument isn't as sound as you think. I guess we'll see next week though!


All I'm saying is, you cannot say for certain that it will absolutely be a Zelda game. I'm not saying that it won't be.


And I'm saying that the scales are tipped favorably towards a Zelda game.


I'd say they're about even. I wouldn't bet money either way.


How incredibly boring Smiley: tongue. Although the odds certainly aren't 100%, I would be willing to bet money on it being Zelda Smiley: smile.
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Uhh, Marvelous Entertainment is known to make Harvest Moon games.
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