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#27 Jun 28 2009 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Sorry I forgot to mention that Retrouprising.com also has an active forum with plenty of gamers who like games from every generation.
Another cool feature is high scores, if a game has a way to keep score we enable it for the high score board(unless there's a way to cheat/farm, we wanna keep tournaments fair).

I realize I'm advertizing again but I really think some of you guys would love this site. I feel obligated to tell everyone so they don't miss out. It's completely free and you only need to sign up for stuff like save states and high scores. Hope to see some of you over there.
#28 Jun 28 2009 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Playing things without a gamepad is difficult for me

Or the wrong kind...

Ever tried to play super mario world with a gcn controller? Don't.
#29 Jun 28 2009 at 9:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree that using a keyboard blows for most games but there is a topic that explains how to use an Xbox360 controller for the games at Retrouprising. I'm sure it's even easier to set up a standard PC game controller. If you can't figure it out feel free to sign up and post your questions on the forum. ;)
#30 Jun 28 2009 at 9:33 PM Rating: Good
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Like was mentioned some games still stand up to the test of time. I still pull out my NES, Genesis, SNES and Playstation and their games.

While I still enjoy pulling out Mario and Sonic once in a while I'm more inclined to play the RPGs.


As for the Super Mario Bro. game being the highest selling of all time, which wiiSports beats anyways, it was packaged with the unit. It sold about 62 million units. And this was during a time it dominated the market and competition wasn't that big.

While I recognize previous things like the commodore, atari, etc, I consider the NES system to be the spearhead of bringing video games into the average household. After the NES hit the competition started to increase, Sega, Playstation, X-Box, etc. The different genre of games increased as well as an abundance of titles. I'm not saying SMB isn't a great game, it is and I still enjoy it. But really look at what was available at the time.

Some people will hate me for this but I say the same basic thing about Halo when someone tells me how great a game it is based on its sales. It's not that great and it was packaged with the system.
#31 Jul 02 2009 at 11:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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After the NES hit the competition started to increase, Sega, Playstation, X-Box, etc.
I FEEL YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN THE ATARI/INTELLIVISION/COLECOVISION WARS, GOOD SIR!

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#32 Jul 03 2009 at 2:38 AM Rating: Good
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Bioshock was touted as the pinnacle of morality systems in preview, but it came across as no better than the choices in baldur's gate.


If you're really interested in morality systems, I hope you've played Fallout 3.
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#33 Jul 03 2009 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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If you're really interested in morality systems, I hope you've played Fallout 3.


A black and white moral system that ***** off Immanuel Kant? Nevermind it's not even a consistent black and white scale: I get good points for killing Tenpenny in cold ******* blood, but oh god forbid I kill the ghoul who slays everyone in the tower despite promising to live in harmony, shame shame; clearly the affluent old Tenpenny deserves death for adopting a new social ethic that enables he and his Tower to actually survive after an appocalypse, because he's a racist!

Well Fallout, you did it, you got me to feel sorry for a rich old capitalist, and I don't like that very much.

I guess it was better than Bioshock.
#34 Jul 04 2009 at 12:29 AM Rating: Good
Well, you do get an achievement for being as good or as bad as possible, so there's always that to strive for.

And really, you don't have to kill Tenpenny. Hell, you can lie about it & still complete You Gotta Shoot Em' In The Head & get the Power Armor.


Edited, Jul 4th 2009 4:31am by Omegavegeta
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#35 Jul 04 2009 at 12:36 AM Rating: Good
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I can safely say that RPGs for the NES, SNES & Sega Genesis are far better than any we've seen in the last 9 years.
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#36 Jul 04 2009 at 12:43 AM Rating: Decent
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In all seriousness though, msot of the people I know who play video games think that:

Bioshock is one of the more overrated shooters of the last few years. And so is Half-Life.

Left 4 dead is only for people with enough money to buy top-of-the-line computers.

God Of War is just a way to waste some time but is by no means good.


I'm not screaming "Blaspheme!", but I'm going to say that it's somewhat ignorant to say that we've moved on to a better era of gaming.


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#37 Jul 04 2009 at 7:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Doug, you obviously have your opinion, and I have mine.

Mine includes me playing Elite Plus (an 8 bit game I've never won), Lords of the Realm 2 (won it, but just as with Warcraft 2 re-playability is excellent and varied), Secret of Mana on the Nintendo Wii (never won it, awesome story), Donkey Kong Country (never won it, and damn are some of those levels really challenging), Kings Quest 4-7 (never won a single one but awesome to play and each time I get further along in the story), Quest for Glory (So you want to be a hero) (won only as a hybrid, but I re-play it every year or two to try to figure out how it's done with the other classes).

My husband plays Chrono Trigger on the DS, Star Tropics on the Wii, and FF3 on the DS. He had never played them before and it was important to me to show him my gaming background. They are now among his most favorite games of all time for playability, re-playability, story, and fun.

Sorry you don't agree! But you also won't see me spouting "LEGEND OF ZELDA WAS THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME!"
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To each their own, and it's a good thing we have the number and breadth of games available to us! I love my retro!

I do realize that my gaming experience is different from 99% of people out there. But I really do play these old games and love them to pieces!!

[Edited to fix Doug's name and to add - my husband hooks up his Sega Genesis yearly and plays Phantasy Star. Drives me crazy, but he adores it!]

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Edited, Jul 4th 2009 8:40am by tovin
#38 Jul 04 2009 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
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Sorry you don't agree! But you also won't see me spouting "LEGEND OF ZELDA WAS THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME!"


Well, duh, it wasn't the gretest Zelda game. Ocarina of Time was, followed by Majora's Mask.
#39 Jul 04 2009 at 11:51 AM Rating: Good
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Not as good as I remember:
Street Fighter Alpha 2.

Still Awesome:
Tetris Attack
Yoshi's Cookie
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy VI
Super Mario Brothers 3
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#40 Jul 04 2009 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, duh, it wasn't the gretest Zelda game. Ocarina of Time was, followed by Majora's Mask.


Twilight Princess was the best one.

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And really, you don't have to kill Tenpenny. Hell, you can lie about it & still complete You Gotta Shoot Em' In The Head & get the Power Armor.


Always did.

I was more thinking of the Tenpenny Tower quest proper. I really liked the game; I just didn't think the moral system was anything revolutionary. For all the new problems that DnD brings out in that moral system, I can't stay mad at it for long because it recognizes two axises.
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Donkey Kong Country (never won it, and damn are some of those levels really challenging)


It really is worth beating... just for the K.rool fight. I think there is some 20 life code if you spell our Barral with the controller. Dyddy does something else I don't remember.
#41 Jul 04 2009 at 5:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Did you even know Sim City was on the SNES?


Yes, that was my introduction to the game.

I don't have my SNES anymore, but if I did, I'd play it. I have my N64 though, and I still like playing Tetrisphere.

But I'm older than all of you put together. Now get off my lawn, I'm trying to play Pitfall.
#42 Jul 04 2009 at 5:53 PM Rating: Good
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Twilight Princess was the best one.


I haven't actually played that one yet.

...Yeah.
#43 Jul 04 2009 at 8:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Well it's really the same thing except that Navi isn't there anymore, and Midna is.

Midna is an exceptionally sympathetic and interesting character, also.

And horseback combat.
#44 Jul 05 2009 at 3:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Did you even know Sim City was on the SNES?

I don't have my SNES anymore, but if I did, I'd play it.

Or you could go to Retrouprising.com and play it, just saying.
#45 Jul 05 2009 at 5:01 AM Rating: Decent
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The best Zelda game was Link To The Past, Followed by Ocarina.

Majora's Mask, Windwaker, Twilight Princess, Minish Cap, and 4 swords were terrible.
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#46 Jul 05 2009 at 7:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Grandfather Driftwood wrote:
The best Zelda game was Link To The Past, Followed by Ocarina.

Majora's Mask, Windwaker, Twilight Princess, Minish Cap, and 4 swords were terrible.

TP>OOT
#47 Jul 05 2009 at 8:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Majora's Mask, Windwaker, Twilight Princess, Minish Cap, and 4 swords were terrible.


Your mom is.. oh whatever

Minish Cap is fantastic.

I'm not honestly sure what could possibly drive anyone to say that a particular zelda was terrible in comparrison to any other zelda considering that they're exactly the ******* same.

Edited, Jul 5th 2009 1:00pm by Pensive
#48 Jul 05 2009 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm not honestly sure what could possibly drive anyone to say that a particular zelda was terrible in comparrison to any other zelda considering that they're exactly the @#%^ing same.


Aside form everything made after Ocarina Of Time and Link's Adventure, that's true. But, it doesn't change the fact that all the other games after Ocarina are kind of terrible.

Edited, Jul 5th 2009 1:27pm by Driftwood
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I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
#49 Jul 05 2009 at 5:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Aside form everything made after Ocarina Of Time and Link's Adventure, that's true.


This is easily the most verifiably false statement I've seen today.
#50 Jul 05 2009 at 7:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Legend Of Zelda(the original one), Link To The Past, OCarina Of Time, and Twilight Princess are pretty much the same game.


Unless you're just saying that gameplay is the same(which is still untrue), the reat don't even follow a similar story.
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#51 Jul 05 2009 at 8:35 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, the gameplay is the same

Ocarina, Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess, and Wind Waker, have the same damn gameplay. Legend of, Link to the Past, Minish Cap, Four Swords Adventures, Awakening, and Oracle of X have the same damn gameplay. Sure there are tweaks; the combat and exploration is identical depending on the dimensions that the game happens to utilize though, and all changes to gameplay have been for the better over time, except for that ******* clock in Majora, but a lot of people liked that so whatever.

Adventure of Link stands out as the only one not copied... except by the Zeldas that shall not be named. I guess Phantom Hourglass also stands out in terms of gameplay, even if the actions are the same as in other 2d zeldas, the control is quite unique. By and large, however, the Zeldas which share a spatial dimension control exactly the same.

I don't really know what else you could be talking about besides gameplay. If you're going to criticize a Zelda over something other than the gameplay then I'm not sure why you would even like Ocarina. It's "story" is beaten in other games, it's characters are beaten in other games, it's atmosphere is beaten in other games, it's graphics have been surpassed (in both style and technical detail,) and so on.
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