Anyone familiar with the Suikoden series?Follow

I find games with a huge cast of characters simply fail to deliver most of the time. A good role playing game requires a good storyline, a cast of characters (heroes and villains) that you can feel for, and a combat system that is both simple enough to pick up but intriguing enough to not get stale after three hours of it. Suikoden got lucky in that, while the cast is huge, the main characters the game focuses on are interesting and unique-ish (Although, after 2 the villains have been kind of on the weaker side. A giant turtle in 4? Really?), and of course the story and combat is usually interesting as well.

Personally, I prefer a small list of characters. Easier to focus on them. Even in Suikoden I usually just collect the zoo, but have a solid and small group I "always use."

Edited, Jun 29th 2009 7:24am by lolgaxe

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An MMO would not work in terms of the lore. The 108 loses its meaning when there are 100,000 of them. These are stars that incarnate into various roles in conflicts.

Besides, when would you set it, and where? The Toran Republic is going to be a boring *** place if you're set during the Dunan Unification. An original setting might work, maybe Harmonia, but who would be the stars?



Wasn't it a tree? Same as Exdeath



You are incorrect. V is an extremely solid rpg, and is the best one that they made since II; the only problem it had was missable characters. Tierkeis is okay; it has the exact same themes and character concepts as the others, except that it's not subtle literature anymore.

There are actually a lot of things they could do with this game. I definitely see your point about it failing due to the fact that instead of 108 starts, there would be hundreds of thousands of them, but then again, there is a new set of 108 stars of destiny (for the most part, excluding reappearances of characters) with each game. Maybe rather then actually being a member of the 108 stars of destiny, you are actually working for them instead? Just a thought.

As far as where the game would take place, I suppose where the series ends. That is not to say that we could not visit the days of the Imperial army when Emperor Barbarossa (spelling? sorry) was running the show, or even when Luca Blight was slaughtering everyone in sight. I am in middle of running through all of the games as we speak, and I recall a cave, could not remember the name of it to save my life, but it's the same cave in Suikoden 1 where you obtain the Star Dragon Sword, and the same cave which you happen to be transported 300 years in the past to the Village of the Hidden Rune. You could use a mechanic like this similarly to World of Warcraft's Caverns of Time.

You are all absolutely right about the fact that in each game there was your little 'clique' of players that you would consistently bring with you to each dungeon, but I don't feel that the rest of them were actually useless. Without a doubt some of them would never leave the HQ lol, but I definitely would find myself rotating near 15-20 different characters throughout the game, just because (yeah I know this is far from the cap of actual playable characters, but I never actually bothered to give most of them a run honestly, just so I could actually beat the game within a decent time frame).

In my own opinion, I feel that an MMO would be great for the series to help give more background information about the characters introduced throughout the series, and would also be a great way to tie up loose ends on characters we know only so little about. This could be done through questing and doing instances for said characters (provided they are still alive for the time the MMO would take place, if not? descendants gogogo).

Maybe I am just trying to cling onto the idea that this whole idea could possibly work, adding in the fact that I would drool over a game like this should it ever come out haha. As far as villains would go, the only idea I could think of right now is revisiting like mentioned above certain points in the past that would let you encounter villains of previous games, or maybe just focus the story around broken storyline in previous games. I'll have some more details later, can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm positive that there are some side stories that had been left hanging for quite some time now.

I base my opinion of Suikoden completely on Suikoden 4, which is the only one I've ever played.


It's a terrible series of games.



Also, I hate people who think that they should make MMOs out of existing game series. There's this thing called creativity, which, as of late, most game companies seem to lack. Instead of making a Suikoden MMO, why not create a completely new game?

It would be played, IF it was good. It would just need to be good AND look good, be creative, be marketed intelligently, priced in such a way that people would pay for it, maybe upon release offer all those who played in the beta a free 3 months of gameplay and those who play within the first month after release 2 free months. Released both as a download and in disc form. Like other games have, offer each currently active player a chance to give their friends a free trial. In order to maintain interest after people have played their trial, the makers could NOT take a page from the books of other companies, and NOT limit certain things(Like in EVE, you can't give someone using a trial any ISK to help them out) to paying players only. Of course ou'd have to limit some things, but make them be things that wouldn't affect beginner gameplay.

Maintain interest by taking customer comments and suggestions seriously, have contests both in-game and out as frequently as is viable. If released by or thru a major company, offer a trial of other games by the company with it and offer a trial of the new game to players of other games from the company. Release updates, patches and expansions as needed instead of as a way of making more money, etc.

It could work, just the companies that make most of the currently existing MMOs would rather just keep making more money off of the ****** games(WoW, FFXI) they already have.

I always wanted a good Tactical RPG MMO. But that would be such a niche crowd.

There is Dofus, but that wasn't as good as I had hoped. I played it for a while but it was just too... I don't really know what, but it was not as good as I had hoped.