I've pre-ordered it, the beta is just amazing tbh Made by NC Soft, using the CryteK engine (probably half), and it is NOT one of those typical Korean grind fest MMO's with no quests, good charachter models and isn't 100% Pvp based and the list goes on...
Yes the charachter models and the creation process looks like the other Korean/Asian MMO's, but thats not all to it. Its bascially like WoW
(saying that helps people actually read this :P, since so much idiots on YouTUbe always comment on Aion videos saying that 'if its simmilar to WoW then ill try it out')
But I am not joking around, the faction and PvP system is really simmilar.Its just like most western MMO's with raids, cinematics and instances (dungeons) and it has a Pve side to it aswell, and alot more(most raid bosses are T and S but they're working on it). It is going to come out in NA and in the US, and in Asia there are currentley 3.5 million subscribers when I had read 2 weeks ago (not surprising, but pretty good so far) and I expect the amount to increase in the western countries by over 1-2 million, and much more when people actually realize how good it is over the years.
I dont want to wall you with text, just so you can look some of the bigger details your self because reading is not as good as seeing it all. Just in case you want to try out another MMO and take a break from WoW,but this game is just unique from all other Asian MMOs. (no offense)
And btw (this is mainly for the people who have no idea about the game, so dont go on about it already being on Steam, and "we already know") xD (And do not take this post, as a post to encourage people to quit WoW.. lol :P)
Thanks
Qujen.
Edited, Aug 8th 2009 6:42am by Qujen
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Steam is charging £10 more for the standard edition than Play.com, so I doubt I would be using Steam. Neither Play nor Amazon have a price yet for the deluxe version, so I can't compare these.
Reagardless, the trouble with MMOs these days is that they are ALL similar to WoW, and, much though I like WoW, I wouldn't personally call that a recommendation to go out and buy a new game and pay another monthly subscription. I'd rather buy a quality game totally dissimilar to WoW, just to break new territoty.
Edited, Aug 8th 2009 7:11am by Krago
Reagardless, the trouble with MMOs these days is that they are ALL similar to WoW, and, much though I like WoW, I wouldn't personally call that a recommendation to go out and buy a new game and pay another monthly subscription. I'd rather buy a quality game totally dissimilar to WoW, just to break new territoty.
Edited, Aug 8th 2009 7:11am by Krago
What's your involvement with Aion that your first post seems to be intended to hype a particular game system rather than to ask an actual question?
No doubt some people in the world will try Aion.
But this is a WoW forum, so talk WoW or gtfo.
But this is a WoW forum, so talk WoW or gtfo.
Krago the Mighty wrote:
Steam is charging £10 more for the standard edition than Play.com, so I doubt I would be using Steam. Neither Play nor Amazon have a price yet for the deluxe version, so I can't compare these.
Reagardless, the trouble with MMOs these days is that they are ALL similar to WoW, and, much though I like WoW, I wouldn't personally call that a recommendation to go out and buy a new game and pay another monthly subscription. I'd rather buy a quality game totally dissimilar to WoW, just to break new territoty.
Edited, Aug 8th 2009 7:11am by Krago
Reagardless, the trouble with MMOs these days is that they are ALL similar to WoW, and, much though I like WoW, I wouldn't personally call that a recommendation to go out and buy a new game and pay another monthly subscription. I'd rather buy a quality game totally dissimilar to WoW, just to break new territoty.
Edited, Aug 8th 2009 7:11am by Krago
^^
Truth.
If I wanted a WoW-like game, I'd.... um.... play WoW?
If I am to plunk down money for an MMORPG, I'm not going to do so, for a WoW-clone (hence the reason I didn't even think about touching LotRO, Vanguard, or any of those other 'wow-clones'). I only play two MMORPGs now (it was three before I made the decision to quit FF), and the other MMO is nothing like WoW (Istaria), hence the reason I actually Play it.
If I ever get bored with WoW or I want a break from it, I have that to go to instead. It is a bit of a changeup.
Galkaman wrote:
But this is a WoW forum, so talk WoW Night Elves or gtfo.
Lady isyris wrote:
Galkaman wrote:
But this is a WoW forum, so talk WoW Night Elves blood elves or gtfo.
O.o
Also, there's another forum dedicated to other games.
I've tinkered with the beta.
1. I absolutely abhor RPGs that try to look ultrarealistic. In my opinion, WoW has great graphics because they're stylistic, especially now that there's high-res textures. Aion goes for realistic and fails (look up the Valley effect).
2. Yes, it is indeed a Korean grindfest. At around level 10 you start seeing less quests. By 15 they're all but gone. So what do you get to do then? Grind.
3. The combat is wonky and doesn't feel fluid enough for what they're trying to accomplish.
4. Every douchebag and their rice addicted mother is zinging their tavis around through the air at level 10. This leaves one less thing to look forward to earning.
5. Korea has very different ideals aesthetically than the West. If you look at anything Korean, you'll notice a trend. If it's ugly, it's evil. If it's pretty, it's a bastion of hope and good. DO NOT LIKE. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE is some pretty little angelic weirdo, and everything you fight is some hideous monstrosity.
I could go on, but why? 90% of WoW owners can hardly run WoW, and my computer was having trouble running Aion on decent settings because of their choice to go 'pretty-real.' If a company wants to tap into the WoW audience they have to cater to the WoW audience.
Currently the only audience this game will appeal to are the 3 Guild Wars players, and the people that are so messed up in the head that they REQUIRE something to 'beat' their WoW.
1. I absolutely abhor RPGs that try to look ultrarealistic. In my opinion, WoW has great graphics because they're stylistic, especially now that there's high-res textures. Aion goes for realistic and fails (look up the Valley effect).
2. Yes, it is indeed a Korean grindfest. At around level 10 you start seeing less quests. By 15 they're all but gone. So what do you get to do then? Grind.
3. The combat is wonky and doesn't feel fluid enough for what they're trying to accomplish.
4. Every douchebag and their rice addicted mother is zinging their tavis around through the air at level 10. This leaves one less thing to look forward to earning.
5. Korea has very different ideals aesthetically than the West. If you look at anything Korean, you'll notice a trend. If it's ugly, it's evil. If it's pretty, it's a bastion of hope and good. DO NOT LIKE. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE is some pretty little angelic weirdo, and everything you fight is some hideous monstrosity.
I could go on, but why? 90% of WoW owners can hardly run WoW, and my computer was having trouble running Aion on decent settings because of their choice to go 'pretty-real.' If a company wants to tap into the WoW audience they have to cater to the WoW audience.
Currently the only audience this game will appeal to are the 3 Guild Wars players, and the people that are so messed up in the head that they REQUIRE something to 'beat' their WoW.
Jaysgsl wrote:
I've tinkered with the beta.
1. I absolutely abhor RPGs that try to look ultrarealistic. In my opinion, WoW has great graphics because they're stylistic, especially now that there's high-res textures. Aion goes for realistic and fails (look up the Valley effect).
2. Yes, it is indeed a Korean grindfest. At around level 10 you start seeing less quests. By 15 they're all but gone. So what do you get to do then? Grind.
3. The combat is wonky and doesn't feel fluid enough for what they're trying to accomplish.
4. Every douchebag and their rice addicted mother is zinging their tavis around through the air at level 10. This leaves one less thing to look forward to earning.
5. Korea has very different ideals aesthetically than the West. If you look at anything Korean, you'll notice a trend. If it's ugly, it's evil. If it's pretty, it's a bastion of hope and good. DO NOT LIKE. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE is some pretty little angelic weirdo, and everything you fight is some hideous monstrosity.
1. I absolutely abhor RPGs that try to look ultrarealistic. In my opinion, WoW has great graphics because they're stylistic, especially now that there's high-res textures. Aion goes for realistic and fails (look up the Valley effect).
2. Yes, it is indeed a Korean grindfest. At around level 10 you start seeing less quests. By 15 they're all but gone. So what do you get to do then? Grind.
3. The combat is wonky and doesn't feel fluid enough for what they're trying to accomplish.
4. Every douchebag and their rice addicted mother is zinging their tavis around through the air at level 10. This leaves one less thing to look forward to earning.
5. Korea has very different ideals aesthetically than the West. If you look at anything Korean, you'll notice a trend. If it's ugly, it's evil. If it's pretty, it's a bastion of hope and good. DO NOT LIKE. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE is some pretty little angelic weirdo, and everything you fight is some hideous monstrosity.
1. The game looks nice and if your computer cant handle it thats your problem not aion's, WoWs engine is outdated and its starting to show in the Newest gear that looks like it was designed by a 5 year old.
2. I dont know what beta you were in but my gladiator is level 19 and i still have a full quest log and the only "Grinding" i ever did was killing mobs for quest items, and the beta version is only 1.1 to test the localization the game will launch with version 1.5 with increased xp from quests and the addition of 1,500 quest to aid in leveling to the cap.
3. The combat system i experienced was very fluid the combo system is great and visually rewarding.
4. Flight is a very important part of the game and very important to the story line i dont see why anyone wouldnt be looking forward to it.
5. Appearently you only played as an elyos the asmodians are dark and evil looking but their not necessarily evil they just evolved differently to adapt to the harsh climate on their side of the planet.
Now i'm no Aion fan boy ive played WoW for awhile now and i have loved it and i will continue to play it till the servers are shutdown but i will also play aion cause it looks fun and its something new to pass the time when i'm not doing anything in WoW
jaysgsl wrote:
I could go on, but why? 90% of WoW owners can hardly run WoW, and my computer was having trouble running Aion on decent settings because of their choice to go 'pretty-real.' If a company wants to tap into the WoW audience they have to cater to the WoW audience.
Currently the only audience this game will appeal to are the 3 Guild Wars players, and the people that are so messed up in the head that they REQUIRE something to 'beat' their WoW.
Currently the only audience this game will appeal to are the 3 Guild Wars players, and the people that are so messed up in the head that they REQUIRE something to 'beat' their WoW.
Or the people that are so completely bored with WoW that they quit and have no desire to ever play WoW again?
Those people wouldn't enjoy a WoW clone / knockoff either. And, honestly, if you're bored with WoW, then I can almost assure you that Aion, which is more grindy, wouldn't please you either.
Sounds like someone working for the home shopping network...
I dont like it, For one I think the character models look too realistic and ugly.
But thats just me~
But thats just me~
Quote:
I've tinkered with the beta.
1. I absolutely abhor RPGs that try to look ultrarealistic. In my opinion, WoW has great graphics because they're stylistic, especially now that there's high-res textures. Aion goes for realistic and fails (look up the Valley effect).
2. Yes, it is indeed a Korean grindfest. At around level 10 you start seeing less quests. By 15 they're all but gone. So what do you get to do then? Grind.
3. The combat is wonky and doesn't feel fluid enough for what they're trying to accomplish.
4. Every douchebag and their rice addicted mother is zinging their tavis around through the air at level 10. This leaves one less thing to look forward to earning.
5. Korea has very different ideals aesthetically than the West. If you look at anything Korean, you'll notice a trend. If it's ugly, it's evil. If it's pretty, it's a bastion of hope and good. DO NOT LIKE. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE is some pretty little angelic weirdo, and everything you fight is some hideous monstrosity.
I could go on, but why? 90% of WoW owners can hardly run WoW, and my computer was having trouble running Aion on decent settings because of their choice to go 'pretty-real.' If a company wants to tap into the WoW audience they have to cater to the WoW audience.
Currently the only audience this game will appeal to are the 3 Guild Wars players, and the people that are so messed up in the head that they REQUIRE something to 'beat' their WoW.
1. I absolutely abhor RPGs that try to look ultrarealistic. In my opinion, WoW has great graphics because they're stylistic, especially now that there's high-res textures. Aion goes for realistic and fails (look up the Valley effect).
2. Yes, it is indeed a Korean grindfest. At around level 10 you start seeing less quests. By 15 they're all but gone. So what do you get to do then? Grind.
3. The combat is wonky and doesn't feel fluid enough for what they're trying to accomplish.
4. Every douchebag and their rice addicted mother is zinging their tavis around through the air at level 10. This leaves one less thing to look forward to earning.
5. Korea has very different ideals aesthetically than the West. If you look at anything Korean, you'll notice a trend. If it's ugly, it's evil. If it's pretty, it's a bastion of hope and good. DO NOT LIKE. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE is some pretty little angelic weirdo, and everything you fight is some hideous monstrosity.
I could go on, but why? 90% of WoW owners can hardly run WoW, and my computer was having trouble running Aion on decent settings because of their choice to go 'pretty-real.' If a company wants to tap into the WoW audience they have to cater to the WoW audience.
Currently the only audience this game will appeal to are the 3 Guild Wars players, and the people that are so messed up in the head that they REQUIRE something to 'beat' their WoW.
I can't be ***** going against each false point you made, but it seems like you haven't played the beta... Warcheif Gutler said it for you already lol.
Edited, Aug 8th 2009 9:47pm by Seguris
To the whole graphics thing...
Me, and some of my friends who are like me, look past the graphics. The graphics in WoW are fine, I can't honestly say that I have anything against them. Yes, I've seen more spicier, more "real" looking games that played like crap.
At least WoW uses a nice palette of colors, I remember when I tried Guild Wars because a friend spoke the world of it. They had the graphics far too sharp and detailed, you couldn't tell what was passable and what wasn't (that stupid catacomb area for one!), and it was hard to make out just what was going on and I started getting migraines quickly.
That and the spicier the graphics, the more computing power it takes to play said game, which means fewer can do it. WoW has nice graphics, best bang-for-buck IMO. It isn't cutting edge, but it is comfortable. We're not doing 8-bit here, but yet we're not "ultra real" either. It is good enough. They are making improvements, too... Borean Tundra looks a hell of a lot better than anything Azeroth had, or for that matter, compare Sholazar Basin to Un'Goro Crater.
In my opinion, Aion would have to have something phenomenally different from WoW for me to even try it. There has to be.... Something.... that isn't found anywhere in WoW, for me to even *consider* it. The entire reason I play Istaria, for example, is because...
A). I can play as a dragon. A real dragon. A real huge fire-breathing, flying dragon.
B). I can dig my own lair, yes, a CAVE, where other people can walk in, that isn't instanced. It actually appears in the game-world, and other people can walk through it and go 'woah, this is cool!'.
C). I can level a "biped" character and do the same with buildings that actually appear in the game world, shops, anvils, forges, shops, etc that can be used by other players.
WoW has absolutely nothing like this, that's why I play Istaria.
What does Aion have, that WoW does not, other than maybe the graphics?
Me, and some of my friends who are like me, look past the graphics. The graphics in WoW are fine, I can't honestly say that I have anything against them. Yes, I've seen more spicier, more "real" looking games that played like crap.
At least WoW uses a nice palette of colors, I remember when I tried Guild Wars because a friend spoke the world of it. They had the graphics far too sharp and detailed, you couldn't tell what was passable and what wasn't (that stupid catacomb area for one!), and it was hard to make out just what was going on and I started getting migraines quickly.
That and the spicier the graphics, the more computing power it takes to play said game, which means fewer can do it. WoW has nice graphics, best bang-for-buck IMO. It isn't cutting edge, but it is comfortable. We're not doing 8-bit here, but yet we're not "ultra real" either. It is good enough. They are making improvements, too... Borean Tundra looks a hell of a lot better than anything Azeroth had, or for that matter, compare Sholazar Basin to Un'Goro Crater.
In my opinion, Aion would have to have something phenomenally different from WoW for me to even try it. There has to be.... Something.... that isn't found anywhere in WoW, for me to even *consider* it. The entire reason I play Istaria, for example, is because...
A). I can play as a dragon. A real dragon. A real huge fire-breathing, flying dragon.
B). I can dig my own lair, yes, a CAVE, where other people can walk in, that isn't instanced. It actually appears in the game-world, and other people can walk through it and go 'woah, this is cool!'.
C). I can level a "biped" character and do the same with buildings that actually appear in the game world, shops, anvils, forges, shops, etc that can be used by other players.
WoW has absolutely nothing like this, that's why I play Istaria.
What does Aion have, that WoW does not, other than maybe the graphics?
jaysgsl wrote:
Those people wouldn't enjoy a WoW clone / knockoff either. And, honestly, if you're bored with WoW, then I can almost assure you that Aion, which is more grindy, wouldn't please you either.
Or I just needed a change of pace, since I had been playing WoW for like, four years?
Overlord Theophany wrote:
jaysgsl wrote:
Those people wouldn't enjoy a WoW clone / knockoff either. And, honestly, if you're bored with WoW, then I can almost assure you that Aion, which is more grindy, wouldn't please you either.
Or I just needed a change of pace, since I had been playing WoW for like, four years?
Problem is, though, is that it will be same-old, pretty quickly. A WoW-Clone is a WoW-Clone is a WoW-Clone.
Unless Aion has drastically different play-style, combat system, etc... it will feel like WoW, without the greatness that WoW has within it.
When I saw the screenshots of Vanguard beta, for example, I could pick out each and every thing in its UI that screamed "WoW!" to me. I did the same with a couple other MMORPGs, I think Warhammer was one of them. I looked and it and I was like "Meh, that's WoW's UI, re-skinned with different colors and fonts".
It would feel like playing WoW, just in a different gameworld, different names/races/abilities, that's about it. Woo. It is still a WoW-Clone.
Zariamnk wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
jaysgsl wrote:
Those people wouldn't enjoy a WoW clone / knockoff either. And, honestly, if you're bored with WoW, then I can almost assure you that Aion, which is more grindy, wouldn't please you either.
Or I just needed a change of pace, since I had been playing WoW for like, four years?
Problem is, though, is that it will be same-old, pretty quickly. A WoW-Clone is a WoW-Clone is a WoW-Clone.
Unless Aion has drastically different play-style, combat system, etc... it will feel like WoW, without the greatness that WoW has within it.
When I saw the screenshots of Vanguard beta, for example, I could pick out each and every thing in its UI that screamed "WoW!" to me. I did the same with a couple other MMORPGs, I think Warhammer was one of them. I looked and it and I was like "Meh, that's WoW's UI, re-skinned with different colors and fonts".
It would feel like playing WoW, just in a different gameworld, different names/races/abilities, that's about it. Woo. It is still a WoW-Clone.
Er, you can fly in Aion. And the class system is different, and the crafting system is different...
You get where I'm going with this.
You really haven't looked into the game enough.
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Er, you can fly in Aion.
Last I checked, I can fly in WoW too.... yup, Flying Machine on my Priest, and Netherwing Drake on my Paladin, and gryphons on everyone else.
Quote:
And the class system is different, and the crafting system is different...
You get where I'm going with this.
You really haven't looked into the game enough.
You get where I'm going with this.
You really haven't looked into the game enough.
See, I'm looking for new _mechanics_ that WoW doesn't have. Like being able to build your own housing... like playing something completely different than a biped humanoid...
Entire _things_ in the MMO you can do, that is entirely different than WoW.
Oh, and for the record, I am not interested in games that center mainly around PvP. I am 95% PvE.
I'm not accusing Aion of this, but it seems to be quite the trend in MMORPGs nowadays... they use PvP as their marketing tactic, forgetting that there *are* people who love PvE just as much.
Edited, Aug 9th 2009 12:13am by Zariamnk
Quote:
Last I checked, I can fly in WoW too.... yup, Flying Machine on my Priest, and Netherwing Drake on my Paladin, and gryphons on everyone else.
You can also fight while flying in Aion. I don't think you can do that in WoW.
People claiming that any MMORPG is now a WoW clone by the fact it's an online RPG is silly. Its a perfect world clone, duh.
xDarkpheonix wrote:
Quote:
Last I checked, I can fly in WoW too.... yup, Flying Machine on my Priest, and Netherwing Drake on my Paladin, and gryphons on everyone else.
You can also fight while flying in Aion. I don't think you can do that in WoW.
Give Blizzard time -- I'm sure they'll come up with a jousting-type thingie in mid-air, lol.
They already got stuff that you can throw while mounted, they got machinegun/rocket loaded flying machines... give em time.
I can only recommend watching the Completely "Un"biased Review of Aion (Beta).
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
Mazra wrote:
I can only recommend watching the Completely "Un"biased Review of Aion (Beta).
I like his review style, I can't wait for his 3rd installment.
I've been playing in the Aion beta and it has it's pros and cons. For me the biggest interest and disappointment was flight. It was originally touted as something so much more then what it actually is. In the recent Aion website redesign they removed a lot of the blatantly false information with far more adept descriptions.
It's certainly not the game for me, but it will be for others. To each their own.
Edited, Aug 9th 2009 3:30pm by GryphonStalker
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Im definetely going to be trying Aion
Been hyped about this game for awhile
Gonna resurrect Biggie Smalls and have him murder ninjas every where running around Asmodian
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Been hyped about this game for awhile
Gonna resurrect Biggie Smalls and have him murder ninjas every where running around Asmodian
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