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#1 Oct 12 2009 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
A well-behaved parasite is one that takes no more than the host can freely give, causing no real harm. Some are even beneficial, like the microbes that live in our intestinal tracts.

Then there are parasites, like mistletoe, that feed and grow and feed and grow until they overwhelm the host, killing it.

The RMT industry is of the second type, and in the frenzy of feeding off a new host they do not seem to know or care about the damage they are doing. How does RMT damage the game? Well:

1. Decimation of Quest Mobs: If you have been in any of the main hunting areas lately you have surely seen the results of too many "gold" farmers running amok in the fields completely denuded of all mobs. The game is tuned so that mobs are spaced far enough apart and repop at intervals so that players are not overwhelmed while trying to hunt them. Drop into this 4-5 bots that zig-zag around auto-mashing attacks so that the moment a mob aggro's on them they zero in for the kill. Like SHerman marching to the sea, in their wake they leave not a blade of grass.

2. Market manipulation: because of the 24/7 playtime and huge numbers of kills, the farmers get an inordinately high quantity of valuable drops, some of which they broker for outrageous sums of Kinah. How can anyone afford those prices? Simple, just buy a few million Kinah! This practice means that if you are in a high-end legion where you are expected to equip your toon optimally, you are left with almost no choice but to buy Kinah so you can afford the gear you need. If there was no RMT the prices would come down to a level that the high-end players could afford.

3. Poisoning the market: Just as they hunt with bots, they also harvest with them, and even if their path is not optimal, simply because they can harvest 24/7 they will amass huge amounts of every harvestable, which they then flood the market with. Any first-year economics student can tell you what happens next. The prices for goods plummets until it is no longer worth the time and effort for real players to harvest. Once all the real players are gone, the RMT harvester can raise his prices and, once again, force high-end crafters to buy Kinah to afford the materials they need.

4. Destruction of the Ozone: No, wait, RMT doesn't do that, yet.

What does it all mean, Bludwyng?

Now, as I see it, here is the major issue right now. It is NOT the fact that these bots farm the mobs we need for quests. It is not the fact that they sell Kinah so some losers can gain an advantage and avoid actually playing the game that they are paying to play. No, the number one problem is the cyclical spam in the channels that makes it almost impossible to hold a conversation without first blocking half a dozen toons. This raises the frustration and anger of the players to the point that they leave the game.

This game is 20 days into it's first month, the free month you got when you paid for the game. At the end of that 30 days players have a decision to make: Do they pay for another month of the game and wait for NCSoft to get a handle on this problem, or do they cut their losses and cancel their subscriptions. Sadly, many will choose the second option and, in this industry, with the number of new games to play, once gone they will not return. This game will go the route of Vanguard or Age of Conan or Warhammer. Many players have not even waited for the end of the 30 days and they are already gone.

So what can I do about it?

Simple. Do not feed the trollspammer. Do not buy Kinah, as RMT is ebil. Do not buy gear or harvestables on the broker from names that are obviously bots (The key to being sure: If they have large lots of what you want, at prices way below the current market rate, they are almost certainly a bot). I know it costs more, but buy from someone else who supports the going market rates. If you are a crafter, you know what you should be paying for that stack of Aether Crystal (Aion Item).

Do not respond to the spammers (they aren't listening anyway, so who do you think you just yelled STFU at?). Do not discuss the spam. Do not allow it to damage your playing experience. You know how to block them. Just block the new names as they come up and move on.

But the biggest single thing is: Do not abandon the ship. NCSoft will get this sorted out, and when they do we will have better tools to handle it with.
#2 Oct 12 2009 at 6:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Unfortunately, the amount of bots/spammers/sellers has already had a noticeable impact on the game. Like any good economy, their are ways to pull money out of the system. The problem is the way the market has already been flooded, it's going to be a very long time before things even out, if they ever do.

I've been involved in almost every major MMO release for the past several years and this is by far the fastest and hardest I have ever seen RMT hit a game. While I agree that not abandoning ship and not supporting RMT will eventually remove RMT from the game, many people don't see the problems associated with RMT. While the players can make a conscious effort to stop it, if NCSoft doesn't do something NOW, the economy will quickly reach a point of no return.

The game itself is pretty good but the way it's being destroyed and the way NCSoft has made no noticeable effort to deal with the problem is going to cause a lot of people to not return once their 30 days is up.

Off the top of my head, this is the first game I have seen damaged to this extent by RMT that hadn't already been abandoned by the developers. I hope other companies take this as a lesson.

What bothers me is that RMT has gotten to the point of damaging games. If this trend continues to grow, I don't think it will be too long before an RMT case makes its way into court. That day would be a bad day for the entire MMO community, not just the RMT aspect.
#3 Oct 13 2009 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
I am confused. Blizzard has already sued several RMT companies for millions of dollars, and won every case. How is it a bad thing if the courts step in and take action to put the RMTers out of business?
#4 Oct 13 2009 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
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The only thing Blizzard has taken to court was "Glider" and that wasn't due to RMT, that was due to the memory imaging. If an RMT company had been taken to court, it was for something other than RMT. If it was for RMT and it won, it would have been plastered all over every gaming site around the world.

Aside from the differences in laws between countries, the problem with taking an RMT case to court is the current classification of in-game items/currency/housing and the required reclassification of those items in order to make them physical property. I forget exactly which classification they would have to fall under in order for a legal action to stick but that same classification would also make the items taxable. Imagine paying property taxes on your in-game house or sales tax every time you buy something from a vendor.

Also keep in mind that the ToS and EULA, the only things covering the use of RMT, have little to no legal power backing them. They are simply a list of rules set in place by the service provider. Since RMT isn't illegal, companies would have to prove the items being sold were acquired by illegal means.

While it's possible I missed it, I doubt I would have missed something that big. A source would be appreciated.
#5 Oct 20 2009 at 10:51 AM Rating: Good
I am not overly concerned about the RMT issues. I trust a company, who wants to make profit off of a MMO, to do what is necessary to elevate these known, and reported issues. Things look bad for NC Soft, only because there's no communication between them and us about what they are doing. Frankly, I don't need a play by play on the situation, but not saying they couldn't drop a post in their forums to say "we know the issue, we're working on it..."

Any MMO gamer, knows to check, and report to the game's official forums for the latest updates, and issues. What I do not like, is NC Soft's inability to maintain their own forums. Nerd Raged posts about how bad the game is because "this game isn't working as intended, even though it's less then a month old, I'm going back to WoW" are left up far too long. This is not the message you want new account holders, like myself, to be reading on their forums. (not to say you shouldn't be allowed to post negative feedback, but to those that abuse this, and post in every single forum category to spam their dissatisfaction in a childish manner)

One of two things will happen. Either NC Soft, over the coarse of several patches, will correct RMT issues. Or absolutely nothing will be done, and we all leave the game, so RMT companies can play with themselves. In the mean time, the damage is already being done as you stated. Customer's are jumping ship left and right. Any MMO gamer knows to wait it out. It's up to NC Soft to step up now.
#6 Oct 20 2009 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
Any MMO gamer knows to wait it out.


Yes and no. Any MMOer knows things take time but these same people know that simply "waiting it out" doesn't always work. Many times the MMO community of a specific game has bit the bullet and waited for the company to fix/deal with a problem/issue only to realize the company has no intention of doing anything. Veteran players also know that bad releases usually result in seriously diminished server populations. If they don't do something major right now, a huge chunk of the population won't renew their subscription once the free month runs out. Since players usually don't return to a new game once they leave, I'm curious as to how many guilds are going to fold in the next couple weeks.

Other than the rare "we're working on it" post, has anything noticeable been done? The level boost for talking in general and the right-click block feature simply don't cut it for me. The level 5 thing was useless and the block feature made a completely unusable chat usable again, neither of them actually addressed the issue.

I'm currently traveling so I can't play but whether or not this gets taken care of is going to be a major deciding factor on whether or not I come back once I'm done bouncing all over the place.
#7 Oct 21 2009 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
Nothing is going to "address the issue" of RMT. Because RMT are a part of any MMO on the market. Like a cockroach, they will survive and continue to be no matter what is done. The only question is, will the game company let them run their in game market, and hinder others gameplay. WoW is full of RMT, you see it daily there with in game tells, mail, and dead bodies of characters spelling out RMT websites in major cites. But it doesn't affect my gameplay what so ever. As long as that happens with Aion, and they provide ways to block, and report these individuals, I will be happy.

I understand that this MMO is void of game masters of any way, shape or form currently, and I can only agree with you in saying that if they don't make their presence felt, then this game is doomed to be ruined by those RMT parasites, no question about it. Maybe I have the patience of a saint, but I am willing to wait it out, because the game does have some promise to deliver as advertised. As long as the advertising isn't RMT banner ad's.

Does the game have other issues, of course, but perfectly understanalde as I've never been a part of a MMO that didn't have issues it's first few weeks, heck, even months! All we can do is wait and see what they do, if they do anything.



Edited, Oct 21st 2009 10:25am by Magilicotti
#8 Oct 21 2009 at 6:09 PM Rating: Good
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Other than the occasional email, and having to block a few spammers every time I login, I haven't really seen the effects of them. I realize they can have a big effect on the economy if left unchecked, but hopefully NCSoft will be able to put a damper on it. As of yet, I haven't really let them affect my gaming experience.

It's early yet people, have patience.
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#9 Oct 22 2009 at 8:46 PM Rating: Decent
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It got alot better since that update. IMO if ppl left cause of the rmt they left way to early
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