Has anyone completed the game yet? The main quest, I mean?
Does it have an actual "game over, roll credits" ending, or does it just finish the main quest and leave you in the sandbox?
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I haven't yet, trying to stretch out the goodness as long as I can. :) But I read that it's not a fallout style credits ending and you can continue to play in the sandbox.
I'd be more inclined to try to complete the game if there weren't butterflies I can catch.
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I hear it'll play an epilogue, but it's only limited to details about the main quest, and is set immediately on the completion of the quest. So (major spoiler) if you kill the Emperor during the Dark Brotherhood quest before downing Alduin, while leaving Elisif in power, she won't become High Queen. But you can finish the main quest, let her become Queen, and THEN join the Dark Brotherhood and kill the Emperor. At least I'm pretty sure that's what happens...
Also, I agree about being unable to end quests. With the Thieves Guild, the first quest is from some random guy in Riften who wants you to relieve a guy of something. But there's no way to avoid the quest short of just exiting the conversation (if you even can). If you fail the quest, he'll attribute it to circumstances outside of your control, and you'll get the quest to join the Thieves Guild. I don't know if you can get that quest out of your log and NOT join.
It would be great, though, if you could choose not to join and that would strip the Essential status from guild members, so you can clear them out.
Also, I agree about being unable to end quests. With the Thieves Guild, the first quest is from some random guy in Riften who wants you to relieve a guy of something. But there's no way to avoid the quest short of just exiting the conversation (if you even can). If you fail the quest, he'll attribute it to circumstances outside of your control, and you'll get the quest to join the Thieves Guild. I don't know if you can get that quest out of your log and NOT join.
It would be great, though, if you could choose not to join and that would strip the Essential status from guild members, so you can clear them out.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Shojindo of the Ten Storms wrote:
Unless there are radically different endings to explore. Like in Fall Out NV I actually played through 3 different ending's becuase who you allied with in that game affected the ending so much.
I got the impression that you don't HAVE to ally yourself with either side if you didn't want to. You'd just miss out on achievements and more quests.
It's more like you have to take action if you do want to make the decision. If you proceed through the quests without taking action, you automatically ally yourself with the Greybeards.
xypin wrote:
It's more like you have to take action if you do want to make the decision. If you proceed through the quests without taking action, you automatically ally yourself with the Greybeards.
Yuck.
More motivation to finish the faction quests for me!
Mazra wrote:
axhed, you might want to check this.
thanks! had to start a new game and wait for the hayride to end before it let me load.
i got attacked by a dragon on the way up to high hrothgar, that chick just before the frost troll helped me and lydia out.
I'm more than a little bit irritated that every faction seems to ultimately suck. A little bit too much like real life for me.
Worse is the fact that to choose the "good" faction, you pretty much always have to turn against another "good" faction.
This is actually largely because I'm irritated that the Blades, despite largely still being a benevolent organization, have become so short-sighted. No, I won't kill a peaceful dragon who wishes to bring harmony to voice-users, so that they only use their gifts in service of the gods, because he once was allied with Alduin. He isn't now--he's helping me fight against him.
Besides, I am more like a dragon than a mortal as Dovahkiin. Sure, my exterior is mortal, but what matters--the soul--is that of a dragon. I'm fighting the dragons because they are wrong, not because they are dragons.
I miss Jauffre.
>:(
Tiber Septim had dragons in his army (one was one of his advisors, iirc). If that's the case, then the Blades have allied with dragons before.
Edited, Nov 21st 2011 7:14pm by idiggory
Worse is the fact that to choose the "good" faction, you pretty much always have to turn against another "good" faction.
This is actually largely because I'm irritated that the Blades, despite largely still being a benevolent organization, have become so short-sighted. No, I won't kill a peaceful dragon who wishes to bring harmony to voice-users, so that they only use their gifts in service of the gods, because he once was allied with Alduin. He isn't now--he's helping me fight against him.
Besides, I am more like a dragon than a mortal as Dovahkiin. Sure, my exterior is mortal, but what matters--the soul--is that of a dragon. I'm fighting the dragons because they are wrong, not because they are dragons.
I miss Jauffre.
>:(
Tiber Septim had dragons in his army (one was one of his advisors, iirc). If that's the case, then the Blades have allied with dragons before.
Edited, Nov 21st 2011 7:14pm by idiggory
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
[...]
This is actually largely because I'm irritated that the Blades, despite largely still being a benevolent organization, have become so short-sighted. No, I won't kill a peaceful dragon who wishes to bring harmony to voice-users, so that they only use their gifts in service of the gods, because he once was allied with Alduin. He isn't now--he's helping me fight against him.
Besides, I am more like a dragon than a mortal as Dovahkiin. Sure, my exterior is mortal, but what matters--the soul--is that of a dragon. I'm fighting the dragons because they are wrong, not because they are dragons.
I miss Jauffre.
>:(
Tiber Septim had dragons in his army (one was one of his advisors, iirc). If that's the case, then the Blades have allied with dragons before.
Edited, Nov 21st 2011 7:14pm by idiggory
The impression I got is that the Blades feel he went turncoat because it was more beneficial for him to do so, not because he is benevolent. It's also easy to see the Blades twist what he says if they were there, implying he conquered his evil nature because it allows him to basically be *the* dominant dragon, not because he's trustworthy. But yeah, the Blades are seriously messed up in the head.
Of course, you can always join the Dark Brotherhood. Then you can just kill whoever you get a contract/quest from first and let Sithis sort out the corpses.
When Ulfric says he's offering you a house in Windhelm, he really means he'll charge you 12000 gold for it 
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When Ulfric says he's offering you a house in Windhelm, he really means he'll charge you 12000 gold for it
Iknowright? At first I was like cool, free house. Then I was like, mah house in Whiterun is juuust fine tyvm.
Question! If I support the Legion, can I still get the house in Windhelm? I mean, I assume I'll eventually be deposing Stormcloak--will the new Jarl make me Thane and/or let me buy the house? Seems only fair, and I always like having a town in each city.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
I need more bookshelves. The chest over the bookshelf in my Alchemy Nook in Whiterun has like a hundred units of weight of just books, and no repeats.
George Carlin wrote:
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Most embarrassing way to die in a game...
Having a lightning bug push your character off a very high cliff to its impending doom.
Having a lightning bug push your character off a very high cliff to its impending doom.
Brokenwheel wrote:
Most embarrassing way to die in a game...
Having a lightning bug push your character off a very high cliff to its impending doom.
Having a lightning bug push your character off a very high cliff to its impending doom.
Bugs with mutant strength? That's awesome.
Chasing a butterfly off a cliff? That isn't.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
If anyone hasn't hit up Darklight Tower I recommend going there. It is southwest of Riften, close to the mountainside. Fighting the way to the top is a bit of a bother. My mage was getting eaten alive by the hags there. >.> But the boss drops a really sweet staff. Not to mention there is a bit of a story behind the tower.
Question to people that went with heavy armor smithing--I'm assuming the final Dragon perk will also let you smith scale gear? Because that way, you can get the best light armor without having to forfeit weapons...
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Ya buddy. You can make scale or plate with the perk.
Cool, I'll just make do with upgrading basic gear, power level smithing, and then farm dragon parts. :P
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Only issue, Ebony and Daedric weapons are better than glass... not that this matters when you've got One Hand Damage+% on all your gear and sneak perks... you do miss out on ridiculously awesome looking weapons though.
xypin wrote:
Only issue, Ebony and Daedric weapons are better than glass... not that this matters when you've got One Hand Damage+% on all your gear and sneak perks... you do miss out on ridiculously awesome looking weapons though.
That's what I meant. I'm going to be wearing Light Armor (probably), but I'm getting the heavy armor perks.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
xypin wrote:
Only issue, Ebony and Daedric weapons are better than glass... not that this matters when you've got One Hand Damage+% on all your gear and sneak perks... you do miss out on ridiculously awesome looking weapons though.
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