Final Fantasy XVFollow

Laptop scored a 2331 on Standard (Laptop) preset. Average FPS of 19. Not that I'd really play on my laptop much. Maybe some questing or crafting on a slow day at work.

Here's a big list of datamined changes. Grain of salt and all that, but I don't see anything that would set off an alarm.

A bunch of abilties got buffed, a few got nerfed. Dragoon sub-class is now pug, not archer. Monk sub class is now Marauder, not Gladiator.

They have spell lists for Arcanist and summons, too. Looking good to me.

At least for the BETA all I had to do was link my PSN account to my SE Account, and I could play on both PC and PS3, there was no actual limitation on my account telling it which version I had access to. They could very well put that limit in for the actual release, but it seems a little strange to me.

And you technically had to for FFXI as well.

That's... not what technically means. Technically, you could play FFXI on the PC if you had purchased the PS2 version, provided you borrowed someone else's discs to install the launcher/game files.

There's no good reason to assume FFXIV would be the same. It's not using PlayOnline, and the PS3 offers far more sophisticated DRM options for them to control access to the game.

I meant in a sense that I'd have to acquire a copy legitimately (pay), otherwise pirate them.

Ya, I saw that one Q/A after posting that, but that one makes sense, because the PS3 version is different, pirating software on the PS3 is difficult, and even when possible I think it severely limits (or removes) the online capabilities of the PS3.

I'm still standing on my original assumptions of how it works with FFXI, given what I've seen with the registration process for the PS3 and PC versions of the Beta and my SE Account.

Edited, Aug 2nd 2013 1:38pm by TirithRR

I take that as their way of saying legally obtain the software for both the PC and PS3 versions of the game. They won't be giving you either copy for free just because you purchased the other.

Edited, Aug 2nd 2013 1:41pm by TirithRR

Baseless? I'm basing it on what I've seen on the SE Account registration so far dealing with FFXIV.

Edited, Aug 2nd 2013 1:49pm by TirithRR

Yes, I'd call that baseless. Or at the very least a severe misuse of logic.

You're taking a system designed to offer you the most extensive access possible, in an environment where everything is free, and then using it to judge (piecemeal, nonetheless) that the state of affairs will match it when it comes time to start paying for access.

Assuming that those two will be similar with regards to fees, something that was not included in the beta at all, is an absurd and baseless assumption.

Are you really going to pretend like the service exchange for the PS3 isn't significantly different from the PS2?

With the PS2, Sony wasn't really involved in any of the online processing. You hooked your PS2 up to the internet and that was that. You are making a huge assumption that they could have limited access to the devices, short of going out of their way to specifically register individual MAC addresses across the board. And at the time FFXI was released, DRM was in a very different place than it is today.

Implementing this DRM would be so incredibly simple now. You're logging in from a PSN account tied to a specific Sony account. Check the truth values against whether or not your PSN privileges are active, allow or deny access. You're logging in from a non-PSN account, check the truth values against whether or not you have standard privileges, allow or deny access.

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For the record, your failing to account for the fact that every single beta code gave access to the PS3 version and PC version simultaneously. So, knowing that this will not be the case with the actual access codes, it's a fundamentally flawed inference to assume that this WILL be the case with the PS3 codes and will NOT be the case with the PC codes. It's just not logically valid.

Edited, Aug 2nd 2013 2:58pm by idiggory

Except we know for a fact that the system is not just checking if you have a service account with an active sub, it's checking what system you are logging in from, and then (in the case of the PS3), if that Sony account is registered to your FFXIV account. You can't just add PS3 access and log in from any PS3.

But you still access the same service. Someone who registered with a PC code CANNOT access the service from a PS3 without registering PS3 access. They clearly, then, do not just check against your account.

Furthermore, you can't access the game from just any PS3. You have to access it from a device associated with a Sony account that's connected to your FFXIV account. This tells us that the system is, in at least some cases, checking against additional criteria beyond the status of the individual account. And that criteria IS DRM-specific.

This tells us that the way the FFXIV service account works is not the same as the way a FFXI service account works, in general. An inference from similarity here will be logically invalid.

Is it possible they, through the goodness of their hearts, decided to give PS3 users access to the PC version even though they're requiring PC players to buy access to the PS3 version? Yes, it's possible.

It would also be shocking.