From what I've read, druids are weak like they were in EQ. Early on the various forms are cool, but they eventually just stand out of form to cast heals and some nukes.
So, can they compete with other classes that do most things better?
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of course.. I'm sure a Druid could Massacre a Preist, or destroy a Warrior, a lot of it is skill... for the most part..
they are effective healers, but they pack a powerful punch...besides, if they ever get in too much trouble, what other class can quick form into something that will increase their speed by 40% in a second? or 50% underwater?
but that's besides the point... anyways take care!
also from the official site they say "Forms are not as versatile as their counterpart classes, but might be considered as powerful"
As powerful? wow...
Edited, Mon Nov 22 00:24:58 2004 by solbiaa
they are effective healers, but they pack a powerful punch...besides, if they ever get in too much trouble, what other class can quick form into something that will increase their speed by 40% in a second? or 50% underwater?
but that's besides the point... anyways take care!
also from the official site they say "Forms are not as versatile as their counterpart classes, but might be considered as powerful"
As powerful? wow...
Edited, Mon Nov 22 00:24:58 2004 by solbiaa
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I was a Night Elf druid. Your Wrath spell has a very long casting time but low cooldown time and manna cost, it is nature based magic and it packs your strongest punch, in pvp you only get one off before engaged or you can use it to hit an enemy that is not directly attcking you.However when you cast it you get a very noticeable green glow around you head and hands and it can be interupted easy.
The druids ******* also gets a spell called starfire and later moonfire, these spell have a very fast casting time and cool down time, they burn very little mana,pack a decent punch and have good range.
In a pack of approaching hoard you can starfire an approaching warrior at least 4 times before he engages you, it is a pure magic spell so do not use it on mages because of possible magic risistance and if the target saves on your first blast just redirect it to another target.
You should be able to put in 200 points of damage into your target before he closes with you at that point change into a cat and get out of there , heal and come back and find another starfire target.
Healing:
The druids heal spell is a very slow casting spell,it has a fast cool down and you can almost chain heal if that is your role in the party but it does use alot of manna and you can find yourself drained of manna quickly in a heated battle.
If you are attcked don't ever try to heal yourself except with a potion.
Change form and disengage from the combat circle the flanks find a magic user change into a bear and get him or heal slowly advance back into the fray and use your starfire again.
Another spell to help you escape is a root type of spell you can cast on yourself, there is a % chance anybody hitting you triggers it and they become ensnared.
Fighter can break this ensnarement if they are aware to do it , but other classes get hung up. Then just back up and starfire them over and over The druid also gets a Thorns damage shiels spell use it to your advantage to sap away hp's of your attacker while you change into animal form or finish him with starfire spells. Warrior can stun you so don't go toe to toe with one if you can escape insted and blast him from a distance.
Shapeshifting: The druids shape shifting has a very quick cool down time so you can go from druid to cat , run away , back to druid , star fire 3 times , shift back to cat if you want to runn away or shift to bear if you feel you can finish the job.
Oh also for healing druids have a fast spell called regeneration, it takes decent manna but can heal you over time quick.
They can also reincarnate.
My pvp battle tactics
Natures protection
Thorns
are constantly up on me
if pvp is seen at a distance
Regeneration
ensnarement
Opening volley
Wrath
Follow up
Starfire
moonfire
Engaged by anybody but a warrior
regeneration
starfire
moonfire
regenration potion (potions have long cooldown before you can drink the same type again.Potions do stack though.
Shape change to bear to engage, cat to run away.
dis-engage
shape change to druid
regeneration
shadowmeld if you are a Night Elf
Pick new target
So inconclusion to druids I feel they have alot of things going for them in PVP and PVE.
Damage shield
Entangle
Root
Healing capability and regenration.
Starfire Moonfire rapid casting and cool down spell
Animal forms
The druid is one PVP character that can last out the battle
and live to fight another day.
My druid is also an herbalist and alchemist, so popping a regeneration potion for a quick health and manna pickme up
is also available.
In PVE when the druid gets his root spell he can do very well solo.
Or at least this is what I did and how it worked for me
When this game goes retail , I am definately doing a NE Druid again, they are also a fun class to play.
Grassland 15th level Druid of the Night Elf Race
Stress and open beta participant
Edited, Mon Nov 22 13:31:14 2004 by HorathhAmberheart
The druids ******* also gets a spell called starfire and later moonfire, these spell have a very fast casting time and cool down time, they burn very little mana,pack a decent punch and have good range.
In a pack of approaching hoard you can starfire an approaching warrior at least 4 times before he engages you, it is a pure magic spell so do not use it on mages because of possible magic risistance and if the target saves on your first blast just redirect it to another target.
You should be able to put in 200 points of damage into your target before he closes with you at that point change into a cat and get out of there , heal and come back and find another starfire target.
Healing:
The druids heal spell is a very slow casting spell,it has a fast cool down and you can almost chain heal if that is your role in the party but it does use alot of manna and you can find yourself drained of manna quickly in a heated battle.
If you are attcked don't ever try to heal yourself except with a potion.
Change form and disengage from the combat circle the flanks find a magic user change into a bear and get him or heal slowly advance back into the fray and use your starfire again.
Another spell to help you escape is a root type of spell you can cast on yourself, there is a % chance anybody hitting you triggers it and they become ensnared.
Fighter can break this ensnarement if they are aware to do it , but other classes get hung up. Then just back up and starfire them over and over The druid also gets a Thorns damage shiels spell use it to your advantage to sap away hp's of your attacker while you change into animal form or finish him with starfire spells. Warrior can stun you so don't go toe to toe with one if you can escape insted and blast him from a distance.
Shapeshifting: The druids shape shifting has a very quick cool down time so you can go from druid to cat , run away , back to druid , star fire 3 times , shift back to cat if you want to runn away or shift to bear if you feel you can finish the job.
Oh also for healing druids have a fast spell called regeneration, it takes decent manna but can heal you over time quick.
They can also reincarnate.
My pvp battle tactics
Natures protection
Thorns
are constantly up on me
if pvp is seen at a distance
Regeneration
ensnarement
Opening volley
Wrath
Follow up
Starfire
moonfire
Engaged by anybody but a warrior
regeneration
starfire
moonfire
regenration potion (potions have long cooldown before you can drink the same type again.Potions do stack though.
Shape change to bear to engage, cat to run away.
dis-engage
shape change to druid
regeneration
shadowmeld if you are a Night Elf
Pick new target
So inconclusion to druids I feel they have alot of things going for them in PVP and PVE.
Damage shield
Entangle
Root
Healing capability and regenration.
Starfire Moonfire rapid casting and cool down spell
Animal forms
The druid is one PVP character that can last out the battle
and live to fight another day.
My druid is also an herbalist and alchemist, so popping a regeneration potion for a quick health and manna pickme up
is also available.
In PVE when the druid gets his root spell he can do very well solo.
Or at least this is what I did and how it worked for me
When this game goes retail , I am definately doing a NE Druid again, they are also a fun class to play.
Grassland 15th level Druid of the Night Elf Race
Stress and open beta participant
Edited, Mon Nov 22 13:31:14 2004 by HorathhAmberheart
3 posts
Im certainly with HorathhAmberheart. Many other threads complain about how the Druid cant match up against the other classes but I was a Tauren Druid lvl 20 by the time the open beta ended and i had my share of equal if not higher PvP and PvE kills. The way I see it it all depends on who you are fighting. Depending on the class you are fighting can help determine what form you wanna play to be the most successful. Also, knowing when to switch back to caster form to heal is a good thing to get down.
For me, I found the most difficulty fighting rogues and warrior. A few shamans too if they played right. For rogues, going cat form wont cut it. Your hp is too low, no armor increase and no HP increase. So the rogue will just stun you and cut your HP to half if not more before you know it. Bear form worked best IMO. With the high HP ( about 200+ at lvl 20 ) you can take a good amount of damage. Plus you can use bash to stun him too. give you some time to use your rage to take a good chunk of HP out of them. Havent lost yet with this strat.
Against warrior, bear form works good too. I usually have to switch back to caster form to heal about once. First I root him, wrath and then moonfire him (never used starfire too much since it had a bit of a casting time) then cast rejuvination and cant forget natures protection on myself and switch to bear form. That way he will have a good chance of entangling himself again and with the combination of bash you can deal out some good damage. :).
Against any other class ive been able to use cat and or bear form pretty easily. btw, i dont usually use caster form for more then healing and quick nuking so i dont know much about PvP in just caster form. Only use it in PvE.
For me, I found the most difficulty fighting rogues and warrior. A few shamans too if they played right. For rogues, going cat form wont cut it. Your hp is too low, no armor increase and no HP increase. So the rogue will just stun you and cut your HP to half if not more before you know it. Bear form worked best IMO. With the high HP ( about 200+ at lvl 20 ) you can take a good amount of damage. Plus you can use bash to stun him too. give you some time to use your rage to take a good chunk of HP out of them. Havent lost yet with this strat.
Against warrior, bear form works good too. I usually have to switch back to caster form to heal about once. First I root him, wrath and then moonfire him (never used starfire too much since it had a bit of a casting time) then cast rejuvination and cant forget natures protection on myself and switch to bear form. That way he will have a good chance of entangling himself again and with the combination of bash you can deal out some good damage. :).
Against any other class ive been able to use cat and or bear form pretty easily. btw, i dont usually use caster form for more then healing and quick nuking so i dont know much about PvP in just caster form. Only use it in PvE.
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