+60 stamina gear - huge hp's? Worth it?

#77 Apr 05 2007 at 6:35 PM Rating: Decent

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no way, im demo spec and i dont go for stam because whats the point of being a caster if your gonna fight like a pally? at 63 i have 4800 health(pretty low for a lock, i had 5900 before bc), 497 spell dmg, and 23.23 chance to crit so i do lots of damage, if you dont want to die in pve get a felgaurd to tank!

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#78 Apr 05 2007 at 6:54 PM Rating: Decent

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whats the point of being a caster if your gonna fight like a pally?

I don't fight like a pally. Why do you assume this?

I have 12k equivalent hit points, +300 damage, and crit rate in the teens. You do more damage than me, but I last over twice as long. Don't get me wrong, 200 sp damage higher is nice - higher crit rate is nice. But when I get tired, and Outlands stuff starts respawning faster than I anticipated... I got no worries.

I'm dying far, far less than I was when I had 5k hp (6k equivalent).

I'm not saying everyone should do this. But right now I'm in all "of Sta" greens except for a ring (which has lots of sta) and my grand marshal hat and shoulders. I find it a great balance between obscene hp's and decent spell dps.

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#79 Apr 06 2007 at 5:51 AM Rating: Decent

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TheNuckel wrote:

Geared for 11k hp means you'll never have to worry about drawing aggro.

PriestOfSouls wrote:

I will never kill Tusker with 2 other lvl 66 clothies. Why? because I prefer a full decent group.

Wimp.

Nice flame, and explanation. "Wimp." always adds something useful to the topic at hand. I believe you missed your bus stop, The O-Boards are here kid.

TheNuckel wrote:

PriestOfSouls wrote:

You cannot tank any lvl 70 instance. Period. Go ahead, enjoy your style now, but what I'm telling you is that it is not possible in endgame content. It is not possible to have your pet tank Kara, or BM, or Arc or Grull's.

Might be able to tank Black Morass with some TLC, but a felguard is much more useful to tie up the adds there. Switch to the imp for the final boss. No problem.

The others? You will have to temper your DPS so much that you'll run out of hp before the mobs. Having 11k hp means you can take 2-3 hits instead of 1-2. Wee.

Still, there's no reason to spec and gear at 64 what you'd need a couple months into 70.

This makes absolutely no sense. "You will have to temper your DPS so much that you'll run out of hp before the mobs."

Mabe its just me, but I dont like to die before the mobs.

With destro its quite easy to burn down every single add before they even get to you, and ive seen an affliction lock dot/fear combo the adds to death. A hunter is the best class for add duty, hands down.

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Geared for 11k hp means you'll never have to worry about drawing aggro.

And why is that? news flash: Trash in Kara hits for 8k on cloth, you pull aggro you die, period. Geared for 11k hp gives you no excuse to think you wear plate. I can picture you being the leather-wearing rogue that always pisses the tank off because he thinks he can tank the trash mobs. Again, this goes back to your playstyle. If you enjoy pulling aggro and dont care when you do pull it (obviously you dont care, 11k hp omg!), then keep doing it, annoy everyone in the raid. As I have said before, my playstyle is to do as much damage as possible without pulling aggro and putting as little strain on the healers as possible. When the mob is on the tank, our healers can play casual, hes not gonna get that much damage. Wanna make your healers heal your 11k hp, while you take 8k hits? I bet they love you.

Aamathas wrote:

out Damaged and out DPSd an affliction warlock and a destro lock last night =D
(Actually did more than everyone but 2 MM hunters in Kara - and I used my Imp!)

652+spell damage with FelArmor and the minion up, 12k health with just a Fort up. Still working on better gear.

Thank you
I was never argueing against DM build, I was argueing against using a Felguard in any endgame content. Now you have seen first hand, the felguard is great for soloing, but as far as him tanking in Kara, its (unfortunately) just not viable.
Best of luck to you in Kara. /hate the Trash.

p.s. How far are yall in?

Tocktick wrote:

whats the point of being a caster if your gonna fight like a pally?

.....I want a bubble....can I have a bubble? /plz

But no seriously, its different play styles, thats all. Some people like to last longer with slower dps, some people like to be the glass cannon with highest dps but low hp, its just tradeoffs, cant have both.

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#80 Apr 06 2007 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent

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hey PriestOfSouls! Yeah, got up to the Curator, hopefully we can get a little further in this time.
But what was most fun was being able to go nuts and NEVER pull aggro. 20% threat reduction from Demonic Knowledge with an Imp out, and a Salvation for 30% more. It was really enjoyable.
My +spell Damage is my main focus now, and that gear has givin me good mana to go along with it dropping my health below 10k, but I dont really need the health when I never pull aggro, just survive the ocasional adds and AoE.
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Uldaman&n=Fethur
for my armory page, with Demonic Knowledge and Improved FelArmor I have just shy of 800+damage.

edit: that hunter is scary as hell, but they can pull it off like Warlocks can. They need agility and attack power to kill stuff (ours is magical with base damage), and they cant life tap-what is he going to do when he has no more mana?
Outlive the other person while his pet eats them alive?

Edited, Apr 6th 2007 12:37pm by AAmathas

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