Had to leave because of a lolwell user!Follow

Well, I thought I would share with you a some what funny (but also heartbreaking) story with you all!

I was on my rogue for a change the other day (normally play my priest, lvl 46) and I got in a decent seeming pug for ST, my 55 rogue, 51 hunter, 54 war, 53 priest and a 52 pali. We were just starting to summon and the priest remarked the just specced holy from being shadow, I mentioned I had a priest as well and asked how she liked it and all. She told me she loved the extra healing, and some how got on the topic of how excellent Lightwell was and how it had saved her (and her warrior friend) many times! At this point I was a little worried, I told her I had never seen it work at all since it's channled and the person who would probably need it, or help the most, would be getting hit - or die to fast if they were for it to help them. Well she gets mad at that, and I'm a little taken aback - but I stand my ground on it. Eventually I do get a little more forward and say something to the effect of "It's okay if you haven't really used lightwell to see if it's okay, you did just say you respecced so maybe you just don't realize how crummy it is - especially for a 30pt talent" She then gets even more irate and her and the warrior actually leave. I feel bad for the hunter who's been waiting forever to get a group going, but the silly people put themselves in looking for group with auto join on - and we're the only people looking for more, so you know what happens. I'm the only one close to the hunter, at the summoning stone, so I just talk to him and tell him I can leave since I would be easier to replace. He ask if I was sure, and I do - for him and because I figured it would be bad anyway.

This is getting long, but the best part is right here! I get back on my priest to help the hunter out since that group fell apart anyway, and guess who joins ours?! That evil priestess who is very sensitive to my "rudeness to holy priests". I'm actually glad because she doesn't know who I am, and I can see how she heals and see if I was wrong and she can actually play worth a damn. Well...she can't. The only thing she casts is circle of healing, runs out of mana before anyone even actually needed a heal, and it's basically a 4 man group. We also got another hunter on top of the guy I met that night (who thankfully was actually very good) who only meleed with his ice barbed spear, said he hasn't used his gun for anything but pulling since he got it. We get through the little troll mini bosses and about half way through with on wipes when the hunter has to leave, and so does our pali. I tell the woman that lightwell still sucks and who I am. She litterally sits there 5 minutes before she says "Well I didn't write the game, so don't complain to me that lightwell sucks!" and hearths.

Okay, that's it - rather long winded, and perhaps only humerous to me - but I felt the need to share. Broken groups over me saying lightwell sucks, and the fun of getting harrased by her warrior friend all night who claimed to be a "Gam master" who would "boot me forever".

-The Monky

that is blood furnace, not ramparts, and that is 1 (one) situation where it's somehow useful. But please.. do tell of more.

@Monky.. what are you doing with a level 46 priest in ST???

Edited, Mar 17th 2007 8:04pm by PilgrimFX

Well, as I had said the others bailed on the hunter and he asked if I could help him. I have healed (stay back, not draw aggro and all) for higher level instances before and did okay, so I figured at the least I could help him out. I did act as primary healer the whole time and as I said we got through what we could just fine. It does suck, obviously, not having some higher gear and not having quite the mana as I would have at 50-53 and all, but I also wouldn't have tried to join a group as main healer at 46. I joined as my 55 rogue, and when most of his people ditched I was going to help him the best I could with my priest as no healers were around.

And yea on the lightwell, I don't see how people can justify it being good when they mention a few time it might help, if I'm going that far in a tree I would like to get paid off a little better than "Well, it helped me that one time in *insert instance* when I *insert scenario*". It's a lousy talent for that tier, maybe if it were like around holy nova range which is a talent I at least could see a little more use from, then it would be one thing - but this is THE 30pt talent.

-Monky

I agree totally to the fact that it should be available around 15 - that to me would be much different. But I guess I would hope for a little more at that stage is all.

-The Monky

leatherpatches wrote:

which makes it badly spent talent points.

yeah, but it's just 1 point, spiritual healing cost you 5 points.
Maybe Lightwell is not doing all the healing it could be doing but it's 'free' healing, if you can get your mana back up befor the start of the fight. doesnt even cost you fighting time...
You could make a comparison of say
taking spiritual healing from 8% to 10% (1 tp)
or leaving spiritual healing at 8% and then having Lightwell as well (all so just 1 tp)

is it really so bad that 2% is better?

(assuming of course that your happy with spirit of redemption)

Edited, Mar 24th 2007 1:02am by Maxzzzz

Haha i find it funny how no-one likes lightwell, it actually isnt that bad, but in most cases people use it wrong like for example for a boss fight, the best uses for lightwell are for in between fights or for self healing, I atm am level 64 holy spec since the start and i have used that spell since i got it. The one stupid thing about it as im sure almost every priest who's put one down has noticed is that people will spam it and use it all to heal twice.. Well the best uses for lightwell are: 1) Your lock budy in the group, let him mana tap and heal in between fights real quick, which gives u the bonus of having a dps class at full mana hp for each fight. 2) Soloing, only use is for speed, pay the low mana cost, i believe 260mana or something to put it down and heal with it only to full. Saves mana. 3)Emergency situation: had to jump down cliff lets say or have been hit by boss aoe and pulled back with low mana and hp well then heal once or twice, it only has to hit once or twice to heal for 1000 or more, and of course ill tie 4) in here as well Dueling and 3) emergency use, put one down before the fight, use physcic scream click likghtwell attack click lightwell, free healing just gotta watch for dots :).
-Also and interesting not i believe lightwell may be affected by the party members plus healing, have a lock buddy who says, it heals for more than it should on him-

I actually appreciate lightwell, as said before, it helps reduce mana recharge time in instances: I don't have to hp/pet mana tap or wait 20 seconds eating/drinking.

I don't know about you, but as a shadow priest, unless I REALLY mess up I don't need to bandage or heal myself more than once a minute, so the cool down doesn't bother me at all. Even when I was disc/holy I never needed to bandage more than once a minute, and if I needed to heal myself I could just pop a renew on myself right before or at the end of a fight, instant cast so I would only have to wait another few moments to get mana regen back. I've never been full on holy so maybe it's harder some how - but I can't see you needed to heal more than once a minute still. And about your jumping off a cliff, keep some feathers and float down.

Times when I'm MC'ing is usually FAR to chaotic for me to heal as well. In those situations, it would probably be better for the tank to tank an extra guy if you're the only healer.