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#1 Mar 18 2007 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I just hit 40 last night and respeced moonkin. Link

The thing is I can't seem to find any other balance druids, you would think the would be more of us since we are the best, but so far it seems like it is 90% feral, 9% resto, and me. So if there are any other balance druids out there with any pointers for me and any other beginner oomkins that read this thread please share. Also could some of you post your armory pages, cause I would like to see some of the stuff I should be going for. Thanks.
#2 Mar 18 2007 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Just remember to stay focused on intellect (of the eagle items). Spirit is the last thing you want. Dreamstate is where its at so max that out asap! It makes a huge difference for your moonkin efficiency. Also don't be afraid to wear cloth gear as long whom ever you are rolling against understands before hand (When you reach outland there will be plenty of moonkin leather to gather). The armor bonus will compensate. Seeing your build hopefully you will go back and max out Moonglow. Best of luck!
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Staghelm&n=Azuel
What I picked up on the way to 70. I know there are others with much better.



Edited, Mar 18th 2007 6:31pm by MarodaXD
#3 Mar 19 2007 at 5:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Lyoko - Elune

There is my Druid on the armory. I do agree with Maroda. Your best bet for gear until you get closer to level 60 will be cloth. This will not hurt you all that much as you do have a nice armor boost in the "Battle Chicken" form as some refer to it. Once you do get to outlands there are some very nice Moonkin leather pieces from quests so you will be able to get better leather. I can't say too much about early moonkin leveling as I only switched at lvl 66 because I wanted to try it out. Before that I was Feral to 60 then resto/balance build for Raiding. Once the BC trees came out I went straight back to Feral. But as a general strategy for killing things: Root-n-nuke. If done right most things will die before they even get close to you. Also, carry alot of water as you will need it even with dreamstate and Innervate. I tend to keep about 2 stacks of the best water I can use just as a "so I have it" item.
#4 Mar 19 2007 at 5:43 AM Rating: Decent
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MarodaXD wrote:
Spirit is the last thing you want.


Really? I would have said agility would be the last thing you ant. Innervate feeds off spirit, remember? And so does the Darkmooon fair mana regen card too, if you get it.
#5 Mar 19 2007 at 6:56 AM Rating: Decent
Im a 42 balance, been balance from start.
As others said dont be afraid of using cloth, and get used to the idea that u gonna heal in instances alot.

In Moonkin I find that I dont root as much as b4 I usually: starfire, wrath moonfire, insect swarm, and swith to 2 h mace and melee em dead.

This seems to be more efficient for grinding since u dont have to sit as much.

Spirit is not at the bottom of my list, sure does come in handy imo, INT though is on top of it.
#6 Mar 19 2007 at 11:57 AM Rating: Default
because of the zero down-time feature of feral-grinding, most druids find it's far easier to level that way. in outlands, even with caster leathers, feral just so far seems superior in every way with the possible exception of "burst" damage.
#7 Mar 19 2007 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Really? I would have said agility would be the last thing you ant. Innervate feeds off spirit, remember? And so does the Darkmooon fair mana regen card too, if you get it.

As I leveled as balance, Innervate was nothing more than something to reduce downtime (or give me that lil boost when I got one too many adds). The spirit is an automatic when picking up gear because certain gear will just have it. It shouldn't be a stat you are frantically searching for as a balance druid IMO. Spirit = Priest/ToL druids in my eyes
BTW agility (strength more so) could be useful when meleeing in Moonkin form for mana regen, more AP = more mana returned per swing. =P
#8 Mar 19 2007 at 9:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I was specced Balance up until a few days ago, and I loved every minute of it. With about 450 INT and full Balance tree spec, I was critting with Starfire at around 3500-3600. I was a spell crit ***** as well with a spell crit rate of about 27% with the aura. A real good balance druid can outDPS a mage in dungeuons. I respecced feral though.
#9 Mar 20 2007 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
Yeah, even tho I might be a really low lv, I always put my talents into Balance. Seriously, out of 100 druids, like, nobody is a Balnce druid, besides like, me. Even in my guild. I ask what spec, and they say FERAL. Have you ever gotten that feeling like you just wanna know that your not the only one who's different?



I need alot better gear.
#10 Mar 21 2007 at 2:49 AM Rating: Decent
Yea i agree its dissapointing not finding any balance druids and actually having people saying respec to feral or rest because balance stinks, but i disagree i just find it astonishing how people say balance druids are bad when they havent even made or tried one -.-
#11 Mar 21 2007 at 2:57 AM Rating: Good
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balance druids exist, its just the road less traveled for the most part. its much easier to find blue quality leather drops that cater to a feral or resto style of play than a balance style. you wont start getting blues and greens with all the stats balance needs (stam, int, spell crit, spell dmg) until the late 50's and on into outland content.
#12 Mar 21 2007 at 4:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Myself, I like it that I am among the minority of druids that seem to have taken the balance path. It is something different but just as viable as any other build.

Pre BC content it is probably one of the harder paths to take due to the rarity of gear that is aimed towards the spec as a whole. Most items that will be desirable are cloth armor that has been designated for the most part as mage and warlock gear as that is all they can use. Also, the occasional shadow priest will be shooting for it as well. In that respect a balance druid gets the "shaft" in the early leveling. Once you get the ability to go to Outlands that all changes.

In Outlands there are alot of quest rewards and drops that are all extremely good for the Balance druid spec. They will be few and far between at times but once you get them they are well worth the wait.

Honestly the same can be said of Feral druid gear as well due to the fact that it was a fight between druids, rogues, and hunters (pre level 40) for the leather gear that was best suited to the spec.
#14 Mar 21 2007 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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kk Thanks for all the tips.

I am lvl 41 and really enjoying moonkin, I am nearly topping the damage charts in PvP already, but I was wondering what jobs I should go for. I have skinning and tribal LW. are those good for end game moonkins or is there other professions that benefit me greater?

last PvP game >>> Results Pic

Edited, Mar 21st 2007 3:38pm by ChoMeric
#15 Mar 21 2007 at 12:40 PM Rating: Default
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BTW agility (strength more so) could be useful when meleeing in Moonkin form for mana regen, more AP = more mana returned per swing. =P


i was fairly sure that agility only added to your AP while in cat form. in moonkin, i think only strength does. agi adds to your crit and dodge rate.
#16 Mar 22 2007 at 12:03 AM Rating: Good
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agi does add to AP in cat, but str gives 2x the agi AP does. with heart of the wild, str gives 2.4 times the AP agi does.

so in other words, agi is just a bonus for cats. more crit and dodge is nice yes, but youd be better off pursuing crit rating if you want crit, and str if you want AP, and dodge is sorta irrelevant for cat outside of the soloing realm.

in truth, agi was added as AP to cat because cat had scaling issues in late game settings. this gives druids a boost for AP in order to keep cat dps on par with rogue dps, assuming proper gear and spec of course.
#17 Mar 22 2007 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
I started out balance on my druid and continued all the way through to 60, when I respecced as healer due to pressure from my guild. I absolutely hated it, and was relieved when BC came out and gave me back all my talent points. They went straight into balance and there I have stayed ever since! It sometimes becomes a problem to get into PUG's as people still have the same stupid preconceptions of what a druid should be, but the groups I do get into comment on how hard I hit and the smoothness of the instance usually. I find it helps to have a pally for healer, so you can get blessing of salvation to dampen the aggro I pull, and most of my gear is cloth until I can get my tier gear. But I would encourage anyone to try balance, it really is fun!! Haven't started raiding yet, so will update when we start. Can't wait!
#18 Mar 23 2007 at 6:37 AM Rating: Decent
This is my first character in WoW and I've wondered the same (where are all the balance druids?)

I've been building a balance druid (level 39 now) but, it seems that the benefits come at higher levels. In addition, I think Druid is a harder character than most because of the multiple sets of attacks you have to learn.

I've been playing a lot of pvp in AB and WS lately and really get worked by the rogues but, it's fun hitting them over and over with moonfire/starfire.

Also, with a good use of tranquility, you can get to the top of the 'healing' column pretty easily. Nothing more fun than turning the tide of a skirmish by healing your whole party at once!

Anyway, good hearing all the people doing Balance, too, thanks for the advice!!!
#19 Mar 24 2007 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
Hi.


Im a lvl 53 Balance Druid, if you want to see my items, just look up Dayclaw on the Dragonblight realm on the Wow-europe/Worldofwarcraft.com page.

Keep up beeing a balance druid mates!

Edited, Mar 24th 2007 6:05pm by Dayclaw
#20 Mar 24 2007 at 7:23 PM Rating: Decent
im a 63 balance druid and been one since level 10.

http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Andorhal&n=Elflorddrui

here is my character link.
#21 Mar 24 2007 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent
Ahhhh, I love the balance druid. It is rather fun to disprove those that think that just because you're a moonkin, you must be 'teh suck.' Balance druids get a lot of flack because the majority seem to think that if you're not a heal bot or a tank, you're useless. Not true. ;)

#22 Mar 25 2007 at 12:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I have a few questions for one that is considering specing balance later on. Now I have had an interest in balance for a long time. Currently I'm a 61 feral druid and I love it because of the little to no down time. I tried playing balance back when I was around 52-55, but found it extreemly difficult to play because I am not much of a fan of drinking every 3 kills. Maybe I was doing something wrong when trying to kill, not sure.

What I'm curious about is, how much downtime do you leveling balance druids typically have? Obviously feral is the way to go when grinding and all that cause its swift and practially a no brainer at points. But I primarily solo and if I were to become a moonkin, I think I would have a hard time doing so. I loved playing my balance druid when she was in an instance. I could heal the group along with doing worthwhile dps while in the back row. Do you guys solo alot or end up grouping more when you level? How often do you use your other forms, like bear and cat? Are there any general tips when trying to solo?

I'm fairly sure around 66 or 68 I'm going to try balance again. That way I can be more group friendly as a healer/ranged dps'r. But ideas would be nice. Also, gear-wise, is spell damage+ or +spell crit a better choice?

Lots of quests, so sorry there, just trying to understand from those of you that walk the path. ^^ Thank you for any answers you can give!!
#23 Mar 25 2007 at 4:32 AM Rating: Decent
Has anyone noticed that during raids, because balance druids are so rare, that if you are in Moonkin form, that it scares off some from attacking you? Seems like they are a bit afraid of what you might be able to do to them if they mess with you.
#24 Mar 25 2007 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
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I have a few questions for one that is considering specing balance later on. Now I have had an interest in balance for a long time. Currently I'm a 61 feral druid and I love it because of the little to no down time. I tried playing balance back when I was around 52-55, but found it extreemly difficult to play because I am not much of a fan of drinking every 3 kills. Maybe I was doing something wrong when trying to kill, not sure.

What I'm curious about is, how much downtime do you leveling balance druids typically have? Obviously feral is the way to go when grinding and all that cause its swift and practially a no brainer at points. But I primarily solo and if I were to become a moonkin, I think I would have a hard time doing so. I loved playing my balance druid when she was in an instance. I could heal the group along with doing worthwhile dps while in the back row. Do you guys solo alot or end up grouping more when you level? How often do you use your other forms, like bear and cat? Are there any general tips when trying to solo?

I'm fairly sure around 66 or 68 I'm going to try balance again. That way I can be more group friendly as a healer/ranged dps'r. But ideas would be nice. Also, gear-wise, is spell damage+ or +spell crit a better choice?

Lots of quests, so sorry there, just trying to understand from those of you that walk the path. ^^ Thank you for any answers you can give!!


Ok heres how I do it. Solo-ing in moonkin is great now. I could go for 6-8 fights without having to drink while in moonkin. You have to remember to take advantage of that armor. If the enemy gets up close dont root and run! If your low on maa take advantage from your mana regen ability with your melee hits. Still got alot of mana left? Well with wrath you can avoid most pushbacks and you have two other instant casts to help you out.

As for spell dmage or spell crit, I would go with spell damage all the way. I mean your crit automatically rises when your damage output rises. Plus crits doesnt happen all the time. So going with spell damage seems like alot better choice to go with.

Well hoped that helped. Goodluck with your moonkin and dont forget about the treants!
#25 Mar 25 2007 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, spirit is quite useful for a Moonkin Druid. With some points in Restoration you get 15% mana regen while casting.

I'm a Moonkin Druid too, by the way. Just made the switch.

Wouldn't mind some gear though. Being a Moonkin in Feral gear is quite odd. Although I do crit a lot with my mace and thanks to Omen of Clarity, mana regen on hit and Innervate, I can go on forever.

I'll need more mana for instances though.
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#26 Mar 25 2007 at 7:15 PM Rating: Decent
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This is always useful for grinding.
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