How much difference can an Orc make?Follow

I'm sort of torn here. On the one hand, I really want to play a Blood Elf, despite the fact that their racials aren't any real benefit to the Hunter as a general rule. On the other hand, Orc's (a race I tend to despise just because their character model seems so bulky to me) have a bonus to pet damage and their Blood Rage power.

Now, generally, I would always stick with the race that I like better. However, as I plan on doing Battlegrounds, I also know that digging up every possable extra advantage is very helpful. What I need to know is, for a Beastmaster, just how much extra benefit can the damage and Blood Rage actually give you? I haven't gotten a Hunter past 42 yet (on alliance side) so I have no experience at all with how strong those two effects can actually become.

Any info on the topic would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

Axe specialize is good for a hunter because you will be mostly using axes on horde hunters. Orcs are better than trolls because trolls look kinda weird when they shoot and taurens agil is v. bad. Blood elves are a good hunter but their racials are mostly for warlocks and mages because hunters dont really use that much mana.

wth? "Trolls look wierd when they shoot" is the defining what makes it a better race when you're talking complete non-aesthetics like he is?


You should also be aware that the difference in agility between the races is not a problem. Also, while most hunters just use a simple mana-efficient setup, in PvP you can burn through mana pretty quick by firing a lot of shots in rapid succession, and you won't have that big of a mana pool because most PvPers go for stamina over intellect. Also, your melee weapon skill doesn't matter. It's pretty nerfed now anyway. If you're comparing weapon skills, trolls get +5 to bows. As a hunter, you'll use a bow a lot more than you'll use an axe. So then trolls are better by your own definition, even though you say they're worse.

Actually I think mana tap + arcane torrent could be a nice tool to use to keep other classes from casting a movement restrictor on you when you joust (i.e. keep a warrior from casting hamstring). But if you plan on going BM, I would say to go Orc, because your pet will be more powerful. Although BE wouldn't hurt, Orc racial synergies off of BM spec.

Troll's racial bonus is worth nothing.

Trolls Racial bonus to bows is quite nice in PvE +5 skill is priceless.
As far as PvP though only thing partially worthwhile is Beserking.

+5 skill is nice, not worthless, but not priceless either (well.. it does come free =P )
it really isnt all that impressive, and it was never meant to be either.
so, to answer your question: not much. it might make the difference between live or die sometimes, but so will the other racials.

Tauren warstomp, used with inspired timing in pvp, can tip a fight.

Orc's ax bonus is teeny for hunters - you are a ranged shooting class, not a meleeing class. After lvl 10, the ax bonus falls way off in utility.

Trolls berserk ... doesn't it only really give a good bonus if you're quite injured?

Orcs resist to stun got nerfed; not as good as it used to be. The pet + to damage is nice.

Yeah, the BE skill is not terribly useful in bg/pvp. You do run out of mana though - it is somewhat useful - but my BE huntress finds herself (1) always forgetting to use it and (2) often not in range to use the drain mana setup part.

Basic hunter skills - knowing what to do vs other classes - knowing how to move - having the right consumables - having decent gear - all this sort of stuff way, way, way trumps racials.