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#1 Mar 29 2007 at 8:36 PM Rating: Decent
If you activate sweeping strikes and use the cleave ability, would it hit an extra target, since I would be dealing damage to 2 targets for a total of 4 targets who receive damage?

It only hits 3 targets right? I wanna know before I switch over from fury to arms.
#2 Mar 29 2007 at 11:40 PM Rating: Decent
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you hit two targets twice and it consumes two charges of the sweeping strikes.

your target gets the white hit, it gets copied over as sweeping strikes, and they both take yellow cleave damage as well.
#3 Mar 30 2007 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Add sword spec into the equation!
#4 Mar 30 2007 at 7:33 PM Rating: Decent
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you hit two targets twice and it consumes two charges of the sweeping strikes.


Cleave does not eat one of your sweeping strike charges.
#5 Mar 30 2007 at 7:44 PM Rating: Good
You are right, it eats 2.

You cleave, hitting 2 targets. Sweeping Strikes activates and each hit triggers another one. If you're fighting 2 guys, each one gets hit twice. If you have more than that it's much more random where the damage goes.

If you Whirlwind and hit 4 guys, there goes nearly all your Sweeping as it will trigger off all 4 hits.

If you have Retaliation up, Sweeping triggers off every counter-attack.
#6 Mar 30 2007 at 9:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Cleave + Sweeping strikes is awesome. You can kill 2 enemies faster than you can kill one XD
#7 Apr 01 2007 at 6:17 AM Rating: Decent
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What I meant to say was;

If your sword spec procs while cleaving and SSing, it'll ss the sword proc too. Hehehehehe... lotsa spike dps.

Each time SS is triggered and hits a target, or your regular swing occurs and you don't have a eligible target for SS; it consumes one of the SS's.


Whirlwind basically consumes all your SS's.
#8 Apr 01 2007 at 6:26 AM Rating: Decent
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And another thing;

SS copies the damage straight across, so if you execute a clothy for 4K, it'll hit 4k on the plate next to it too.
#9 Apr 01 2007 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
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The One and Only Melissarielle wrote:

If you Whirlwind and hit 4 guys, there goes nearly all your Sweeping as it will trigger off all 4 hits.


did they change it again?

originally, ss + ww + four targets would result in all four targets getting hit twice, but this was deemed too powerful in pvp, so it was nerfed so that only one of the targets would be hit twice. think about it... recklessness + sweeping + sword spec + whirlwind lol

then around 2.0, it was changed so that two of the targets would be hit twice, with two charges consumed.

can any of you guys post a screenshot of ss + ww hitting all four twice? after seeing one of it only hitting two twice, i confirmed it in game myself, because i also thought it was all four.

devioususer wrote:
SS copies the damage straight across, so if you execute a clothy for 4K, it'll hit 4k on the plate next to it too.

this was also changed at the same time the extra attack to ww + ss was added.

previously, if the additional target was not in execute range, they would only take normal attack damage.
#10 Apr 01 2007 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
Hmm... I thought I saw 8 numbers pop, but it could have been 6.

As far as I've seen, the Execute SS turns into a regular hit of the guy next to them.

Anyone finding the title of this thread ironic at this point?
#11 Apr 01 2007 at 3:51 PM Rating: Decent
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devioususer wrote:
SS copies the damage straight across, so if you execute a clothy for 4K, it'll hit 4k on the plate next to it too.


axhed the Flatulent wrote:
this was also changed at the same time the extra attack to ww + ss was added.

previously, if the additional target was not in execute range, they would only take normal attack damage.


Yeah, I'll screen shot it later. But I'm pretty sure that execute can hit both mobs even if the other target isn't eligible for execute. I was doing it all this morning.

I also am pretty sure WW + SS will hit all the targets twice. or two (of four) targets 4 times... or 1 target 3 times and 2 targets twice (of four targets)... depending on the exact mechanic.

I find that SS requires somewhat of a very near proximity, and the target has to be in the 180 degree arc in front. Kinda touchy at that. Maybe it's just server/client lag...

Edited, Apr 1st 2007 4:52pm by devioususer
#12 Apr 03 2007 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I've also found SS to be kinda buggy, and it doesn't always proc even when I'm getting bashed by two mobs right in the face. I've even used cleave and not have SS proc.

Anyone have a clue of how to fix this, or in some kind of positioning that is needed? I'm not quite sure what was meant by the 180 degree arc.
#13 Apr 03 2007 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
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360 degrees = circle

180 degrees arc = half circle

so the front half of your character model is the front 180 degree arc.

Where your normal white hits require the target to be. Not behind your character.

Trigonometry not necessary, but geometry and algebra are really useful.
#14 Apr 03 2007 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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A simpleton's explanation. Thanks.

I understand what an arc is, and I know what 180 degrees is. It's just when a sentence is as redundant as...

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the target has to be in the 180 degree arc in front.


... I have a little bit of difficulty understanding what is meant. Nice of you to clear it up, but the snide remarks were unneeded.
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