"roll for shard"???Follow

My policy is that if a pug decides to call it a night, and everyone leaves without adding "now lets all roll for those shards", and I do not catch it immediately, I keep the shards. If we clear, I generally tell people to roll, because I would likely have just finished DEing the two pieces of shaman gear that nobody wanted from the final boss.

10 bops to greed = 10 greed rolls
10 shards to greed = 10 greed rolls

whether or not you advertise your skill is moot. you should end up with the same amount of shards. you just prevent others from having shards.

scenerio:
you agree to d/e. all bops go to you. finish instance. 2 hearth out. 3 people split 10 shards. you net 4 shards. you win and party wins.
or
you dont d/e. all 5 roll on all bops as you go. you win 2 bops. you net 2 shards. you lose and party loses.

also consider anything that d/e to dust. almost a guaranteed keeper for you. plus you can always pull the "i d/e 5 bops but only seem to have 4 shards in my bag".

either way you look at it, not advertising enchanting is an a-hole thing to do.

No, the shard LISTS for 10g in the AH. There is a difference, particularly since there's no deposit on shards.

This thread is so bizarre.

But it got me thinking... on Uldaman runs, since the enchanter is benefitting by having the group take them to the trainer so that they can buy higher lvl enchants to sell thereby giving them more value than they could get on their own, by your logic shouldn't the enchanter pay the rest of their group then for runs through Uldaman? I mean, if the enchanter can only get there because of the skill of the group, much like the shard only comes from the skill of the enchanter, that would be fair to you, right?

Hahaha...
DE blues for people in PuGs, doing otherwise is, quite frankly, being a jerk. Takes 5 seconds, costs you nothing, potentially gets you on better terms with people. Doing a whole crapload of greens is different, but if you're in a group, offer to DE.

So, for every bit of water or food I conjure, I should pass the hat as well? How about every time the priest heals? Not the same? Okay, how about passing the hat for every grenade used? Every healing potion? Also... when you were a rat learning lockpicking, you could still pick the lock, so qq.

*bah*... this is why I don't do PUGs and only run with guildies. We roll for chests (locked or not), roll for shards if no one can use the BOP item and greed greens. We all cheer for eachother when we get something good and are all interested in the other's well being.

Sorry, didn't bother to read the name of all the posters in the thread.

Edited, Apr 3rd 2007 7:58am by ktangent

Sad bit is that there are enough people out there that think the way my sacrastic post was that you thought I was actually serious at all.

this thread made me laugh

you want to be paid for DEing stuff? you're kidding? the sooner people realise that community reputation counts for more in WoW than your gear, the better. think about it, you act like that and ask for gold for DEing stuff, sure you might get a few extra gold here and there, but i guarantee that you won't be invited to nearly as many pugs in the future.

Please tell me you're not serious(or that at least this isn't an instance group you're talking about...I might be able to not have an aneurism if it was a PUG for a quick quest).

You can go on and have your aneurism :P

I know circumstances don't count but it was i think the 4th character that joined the group, asked me for 40 water played for 2 minutes then had to leave.

I do water free in towns, i do portals free, i do enchants free. If the sentence starts with "sorry to bother you" and ends in "please" i will most likely do it just because they asked nicely.
However when a hunter sais in a PUG "mage, water" i conjure him 20 water and go on. If they ask for 60-80, yeah they get the finger :)

funny how warriors never ask for conjured food.. and not a single mana user remembers to buy some water before an instance.

So, let me get this straight... it costs you nothing extra (whatsoever) to d/e a blue BOP item, and you have a 20% (assumes 5 in group) chance to win this and d/e it later, or you could d/e it now and have a 20% chance to get the shard. So, you're trying to save the use of the d/e key? I don't understand your logic there as there is the same chance for you to get the shard/bop item and all it might do is help someone else in the group when their priest wins the o-I-wish-I-could-use-it plate gloves and has to vendor it for x gold, instead of helping said priest to get a shard which she/he could use for their enchant of x item.

Once again, glad I don't do PUGs.



I'm in arguably one of the better guilds on my server and the folks there are pretty darn nice. Good to run instances with, good to help others get their keys/attunements/levels. I agree that there are some egotistical folks in some guilds, just let's not lump all raiding guilds (I suppose we aren't a 24/7 no-life raiding guild, but we are primarilly a raiding guild) into the same basket.

I have refused to make water for folks when rudely asked "WATER, MAGE"... "WATER NOW" "WATER" blah blah blah, but it was because of the way they asked, not because I needed the mana in town/before an instance was started. I generally offer to make water before the start of an instance, and don't wait to be asked. It avoids all that rudeness, I have found.

Edited, Apr 4th 2007 7:39am by ktangent

/flip-bird

I play a pally as well. I am sorry that you get hit up by rude people about your buffs and such. I gather herbs and there is generally a mob around the herb, so I have to kill it to get the herb... your point about mining is moot. Will you please grow some civility and ask for things nicely? I would never walk up to a pally and demand anything of them. I have a pally alt and consider it a nice gesture to buff people as I walk around town, but will only buff people when it requires a reagent if we're running a group together, otherwise you get "blessing of might" or "blessing of wisdom", or some other buff that I nicely give.

If someone demanded "PALLY BUFF ME", I'd give them the same response I gave your request above. Just because we live in a world where people can act like jerks doesn't mean we have to reward it.