"roll for shard"???Follow

Since you asked nicely, you can have all the rank 1 water your heart desires.

But only the ENCHANTER has access to the shard.
So roll for the blue, vendor it if you're not enchanter, disenchant if your are.
I see no reason to share my sink-hole of a trade skill with other people just in the cool parts (except in guild runs / raids ofc). It took me ****-loads of money to get my skill so high in enchanting and now everybody shares the *wealth*.

it's angel, not angle.

and i don't want their leather, i can buy it from AH.
just like when they need enchants they buy shards from AH.

i don't think for a second that i should get a blue nobody needs just because i can get more money by disenchanting it. but i won't do it for other people who make obscene amounts of money by skinning / mining, AH-ing their products and buying free enchants from me.
i spend more money leveling enchanting than they earn through skinning or mining. and they want free disenchants from me. i just spend 300-400 gold to make a ROD ! the eternium rod will cost around 1k gold. what do skinners need? oh.. a skinning knife. how much does that cost again?

See and I look at this viewpoint as really short-sighted. If I vendor a blue item, yeah I get a few gold. If I win a roll for a shard I have a mat. I can't afford the complete mats for enchants on the AH, but I have hoarded mats and then tipped enchanters (pretty well) to do enchants that I have the mats for.

I imagine there are lots of people like me. But I'm sure it's much better for us to "share the wealth" and not get enchants at all and not tip you at all then for you to take 3 seconds to d/e so we can roll on the mat and perhaps buy from you.

On a side note:



What, huh?

See.. one profession is locked for me with enchanting. You have other professions that bring you money. You don't need me to d/e that shard. This is a big source of income for me. But if you have 2 other professions and you have the equivalent of 3 professions during an instance.. who would pick up enchanting to begin with?
You only make money with it after 365 or smth.

Btw.. how does Eternium Skinning knife and Eternium Mining Pick sound?
~1k gold each..

EDIT: Yeah, buying free enchants. You buy the mats and everybody does it for free.

Edited, Apr 4th 2007 11:25am by angelblack

This thread not only reinforces why I don't run PUGs, but also why I don't enchant stuff for people outside my guild.

The economics of not sharding blues for others is silly. You'd essentially be taking 80% of the shards out of the market, making them THAT much more expensive on the AH not only for others, but for you as well since you aren't always going to have enough shards for the enchants that you want and WILL eventually have to pay for mats for your own enchants. It's destructive to the economy as a whole and shouldn't be encouraged, EVER.

I suppose it shouldn't be surprising that you're going to take your shards and go home.

As an enchanter, i dont understand why you would deserve Un-needed BOP items to DE and keep for your skill-ups. Took 5 people to knock down the boss/trash mob. DE then Roll for shard is the best way to go. Either shut your mouth and greed with everyone else, or DE and roll for the shard and give the winner the shard. You can lvl up to 300 with dusts and few shards. You can also advertise your skill in main cities and have others pay you to lvl your damn skill as well.

Stop being greedy and Lazy.

Double post, soz..

Edited, Apr 5th 2007 3:29am by Adoragon

ok here i go trolling again but i've to clear up a few things.
@Celcio
- Engineering is broken and i think everyone knows that. You've impressed nobody that you're invested money into a dead profession.
Secondly it's a PvP profession. Meaning you either are 70 with a lot of money or a twink with a lot of money from your alt. Either way, people who pick up engineering have money to begin with and are aware that they are NOT picking this profession as a moneymaker.

- miner/blacksmith. you're making your own armor when you reach higher level bop recipies. boo-hoo for you. shall i tell you how much it costs to level up tailoring so i can make the Spellfire set? and how utterly JUNK every item until 350 is? Also you can sell the junk you make and don't need to Enchanters for 2-4g a piece (depends on the level) or just d/e them with an alt of yours.

From level 1 to 355 the only money i've made with enchanting was d/e-ing rewards and unneeded blues in instances (that happens very rare). Great moneymaker here. All of a sudden, out of all this *nothing* i have to make this : http://wow.allakhazam.com/spell.html?wspell=32667
2x Void Crystals (200g)
12x greater planar essence (100g)
4x primal might (500)
After I spend all that money (cause nobody is going to buy me those mats) i have to spend hours and hours and hours farming for recipies. +40 spell dmg drops from a mob in blade's edge. There are only 5-6 mobs in a camp in the whole game. The drop rate is around 0.5%. Think "competition".
After that i go back to SW and people are doing this enchant free.. great moneymaker.

You see.. you say disenchant for free because it doesen't wear out my d/e button. But how's this different from enchanting high-level rep-based formulas? Does it wear out my button to enchant for free? No. Did i spend the same amount of time to grind rep to get that recipie as i did leveling my enchanting so high that i can d/e 70 blues? Yup. So why charge for +12agi and not charge for d/e-ing ?

@ktangent
Sorry to burst your bubble but i'm not a girl.



Edited, Apr 5th 2007 5:34am by angelblack

I know it doesn't show if you're not an enchanter and IF there is an enchanter in your group. If there is none it will show to you as a common BoP.
And let's be serious.. who's grouping to take down a couple of non-elites? And that place is farmed around the clock anyway.

I totaly dont agree with chanters rolling need to DE.

Need situations:

- Will give you a genuine upgrade.
- BoP and Rare drop items which you *will* use.

If you're talking about Airvee's post, then he's mistaken. The Mana Potion Injector is a BoE pattern and shows up to all members whether there's an engineer in the group or not.