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#1 Apr 03 2007 at 1:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you use Tiger's Fury? If so, when?

The buff doesn't last long (5 sec), so you would have to keep mashing that sucker throughout a fight, spending energy that might otherwise be used on Rake, Claw, and finishing move.

You might activate it right before you Pounce, but again, it costs energy that could be saved for your Rake and Claws.

Your thoughts?
#2 Apr 03 2007 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
It's good for boosting an insta-crit Ravage on a sitting mage.
#3 Apr 04 2007 at 1:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Prowl > Tiger's Fury > Pounce > Shred etc

If you're quick you can get the Pounce and Shred in within the 6 second limit.

I dont really try to get it in more than once as its not really required.

#4 Apr 04 2007 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
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ssgrif wrote:
Prowl > Tiger's Fury > Pounce > Shred etc
If you're quick you can get the Pounce and Shred in within the 6 second limit.
I dont really try to get it in more than once as its not really required.


Does Tiger's Fury amp DoT attacks like Pounce as much as it would a hard hitter like Ravage? : / Seems like not since it wears off so damn fast. Only time I use TF myself is when I'm behind a high health mob that's being well tanked, to bump up the DPS of my spammed Shreds.

So in response to the above suggestion I use this opening attack:
Prowl > Shred > Faerie Fire > Shred > KILL KILL KILL

Prowl knocks 'em out so I can get/stay behind for Shred, and the two combine to start DoT-dps and hit hard. Faerie Fire is available immediately, and I have energy for my second Shred in the split-second between expiration of global cooldown and wakey-wakey time. The timing is friggin' perfect. Between the Pounce, two Shreds, and my 24% crit rate I always have 4 or 5 buttons lit. If necessary I max it out by Raking them to get a little more bleeding happening. If they have a lot of health left I'll Rip to set them GUSHING blood (from pounce, rake and now rip) and if they're low HP I'll Ferocious Bite their asses into the afterlife.

I can usually take on mobs around my level only getting slapped a couple times. For mobs 4-5 levels higher I pop a regrowth before going in and take them down without losing more than 10-15% or so of my health.

Any constructive criticism for improving on this strategy from you grand masters out there? I'm level 46 now and REALLY looking forward to Mangle. : )


#5 Apr 04 2007 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
Kinda curious about this one... Prowl > Shred > Faerie Fire > Shred > KILL KILL

Wouldn't it be more effecient to do this:
Non-Boss - Prowl > Ravage > Faerie Fire > Rake > Mangle > Shred Shred > Ferocious Bite

Boss - Prowl > Ravage > Faerie Fire > Rake > Mangle > Shred Shred > Rip > Shred Shred...???

This is pretty much the combo I've used since I got Mangle and it burns down mobs so fast it's almost not even fair.
#6 Apr 04 2007 at 10:03 AM Rating: Decent
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I think maybe JeeBar meant to put a Pounce in between the Prowl and the Shred.

But I still have a question for JeeBar. How do you get that second Shred in before the mob turns around? I simply can't do it unless I hit a clearcast. I wonder if there is some Talent, or something else, that enables you to get two Shreds in. I have talked to other druids and they can't do it either. So I wonder what you are doing differently? It would be such a boon to us to learn the trick to getting two Shreds off before the mob wakes up!

P.S. I like the "gushing blood" description!
#7 Apr 04 2007 at 10:36 AM Rating: Decent
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But I still have a question for JeeBar. How do you get that second Shred in before the mob turns around? I simply can't do it unless I hit a clearcast. I wonder if there is some Talent, or something else, that enables you to get two Shreds in.


Shredding Attacks. Feral Tree. :P

Makes it so that Shred costs almost the same as Mangle/Claw. (42 instead of 40)
So you can Pounce, Mangle, Shred. Or if you don't have Mangle yet, Pounce, Shred, Shred.
#8 Apr 04 2007 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
I find it to be a largely pvp skill, like against the mage as mentioned earlier. I use pounce when grinding
#9 Apr 04 2007 at 9:18 PM Rating: Decent
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wallpad wrote:
I think maybe JeeBar meant to put a Pounce in between the Prowl and the Shred.


Yup, indeed I did wallpad, thanks. Shoulda been:
Prowl > Pounce > Shred > Faerie Fire > Shred > KILL KILL KILL


wallpad wrote:
But I still have a question for JeeBar. How do you get that second Shred in before the mob turns around?


As Selverein says, "Shredding Attacks" talent in feral tree. At 2/2 it reduces cost of Shred attack by EIGHTEEN from 60 to 42. That's 1/3 faster...very very cool talent.
#10 Apr 05 2007 at 6:38 AM Rating: Decent
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JeeBar wrote:

wallpad wrote:
But I still have a question for JeeBar. How do you get that second Shred in before the mob turns around?


As Selverein says, "Shredding Attacks" talent in feral tree. At 2/2 it reduces cost of Shred attack by EIGHTEEN from 60 to 42. That's 1/3 faster...very very cool talent.


I want the Gushing Blood so I'm going to respec my Talents just for this.

I'm level 49, and my spec is 0/28/11. As long as I'm going to respec, I should decide whether to keep both Primal Fury and Nurturing Instincts (both are not necessary to advance to the next tier, Heart of the Wild), or just keep one of the two. Keeping both delays my ultimate acquisition of Mangle, but I like the idea of having both of them.

Thoughts? Should I just do the minimum necessary to get Mangle as soon as possible, or should I round out my Talents along the way, delaying Mangle?

#11 Apr 05 2007 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
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wallpad wrote:
I want the Gushing Blood so I'm going to respec my Talents just for this.


Yeah, fully feral is fun, friend.

wallpad wrote:
I'm level 49, and my spec is 0/28/11. As long as I'm going to respec, I should decide whether to keep both Primal Fury and Nurturing Instincts (both are not necessary to advance to the next tier, Heart of the Wild), or just keep one of the two. Keeping both delays my ultimate acquisition of Mangle, but I like the idea of having both of them.

Thoughts? Should I just do the minimum necessary to get Mangle as soon as possible, or should I round out my Talents along the way, delaying Mangle?


Supposedly Mangle is the end-all-be-all of feral awesomeness, so I'm driving toward that pretty hard and have decided to hit the Resto tree AFTER I get Mangle.

The tier 6-7 feral talents coming up for you are way cool IMHO: HoTW, LoTP and iLoTP. Frankly now that I've got those three talents I'm "happy" in feral, just taking stuff to get me to Mangle.

I'd take both Primal Fury and Nurturing Instinct if I were you, but that's just me. Check the stickies for "recommended builds" and see if that's consensus.

Just FYI: At level 46 I'm spec'd 1/35/1...balance point nature's grasp and resto point furor. Even at just 20% proc rate both come in very handy frequently, but at 120k exp per level that's still a pretty long delay til I get Mangle. I'd trade NG and Furor for Feral talents if respeccing were free, but 10g to go from 1/35/1 to 0/37/0 seems silly.





Edited, Apr 5th 2007 8:24am by JeeBar
#12 Apr 05 2007 at 8:03 AM Rating: Decent
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JeeBar wrote:
Just FYI: At level 46 I'm spec'd 1/35/1...balance point nature's grasp and resto point furor. Even at just 20% proc rate both come in very handy frequently, but at 120k exp per level that's still a pretty long delay til I get Mangle. I'd trade NG and Furor for Feral talents if respeccing were free, but 10g to go from 1/35/1 to 0/37/0 seems silly.

I don't have Mangle yet, and I've heard it's great, but I would still wait until 55 to get it. 5/5 Furor is mandatory and absolutely invaluable for any Feral build. Not for PvE grinding, really, though it does make you better, but definitely if you plan to PvP at all.
#13 Apr 05 2007 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
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Tiger's Fury is not worth the Energy, IMO.

Ravage isn't either. :P

The only time I Ravage anymore is if I come across a sitting cloth.

It's more efficient to ALWAYS open with Pounce unless you can guarantee a Ravage Crit. Pounce + Mangle + Shred is more damage then Ravage + Mangle + Mangle.
#14 Apr 05 2007 at 10:37 AM Rating: Decent
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In addition, and often more importantly, Pounce -> Faerie Fire -> Mangle/Shred -> Shred is a lot of damage while the mob doesn't hit you at all. Ending fights with an almost full health bar, against creatures that might hurt your non-bear self if given a chance, saves a lot of time.
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