I bring forth to you a question, Paladin community. How did the term paladin, come to mean, in modern culture, a sort of Holy-warrior? How could a term for someone from palatine hill, evolve so? Discuss. I think Malagigi might have had something to do with it. He was stated to be a sorcerer, so maybe that helped evolve the concept of a paladin as a mystical night with magical abilities, and their association with the church helped turn that mysticism into an above-average holiness. Of course, that was in the Italian version, not the original French, so I might be wrong entirely.
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Wasn't the Paladin IRL some order of knights that worked for the ideals of a certain religion, making them warriors of the church.
It's pretty common in fantasy that people from the church receive divine powers to bring forth the ideals of that church. More often than not these were benefical spells, such as healing spells. Paladins, because of their work for the church, receive some of these divine powers, but only to a lesser extend.
In WoW, the Order of the White Hand started out as a select caste of Clerics lead by Uther the Lightbringer, that took up arms and armor to be more capable and durable on the frontlines while retaining their divine powers.
It's pretty common in fantasy that people from the church receive divine powers to bring forth the ideals of that church. More often than not these were benefical spells, such as healing spells. Paladins, because of their work for the church, receive some of these divine powers, but only to a lesser extend.
In WoW, the Order of the White Hand started out as a select caste of Clerics lead by Uther the Lightbringer, that took up arms and armor to be more capable and durable on the frontlines while retaining their divine powers.
thelsDeKuant wrote:
Wasn't the Paladin IRL some order of knights that worked for the ideals of a certain religion, making them warriors of the church.
Well, the word paladin has been used to describe nobles with certain kingly rights, knights, and the second in command of the third Reich, and the wikipedia article's not too clear on the topic, so I don't know.
Below is some info I found online regarding the origins of the word (aka Wikipedia as was mentioned). Insteresting stuff. Personally, I like the last paragraph the most. . . .
Originally, the paladine was created first in Ancient Rome as a chamberlain of the Emperor and the imperial palace guard called praetorian guard by Diocletian. In the early Middle Ages, the meaning changed into the official of the Catholic Church in the pope's service and one of the major nobleman of the Holy Roman Empire, named count palatine. Similar titles were also used in 19th century Hungary and in the German Empire and United Kingdom during the early 20th century.
In medieval literature, the paladins or Twelve Peers were known in the Matter of France as the retainers of Charlemagne. Based on this usage, the term can also refer to an honorable knight, which has been used in contemporary fantasy literature
Catholic Church
In the Middle Ages, the judices palatini ('[papal] palace judges') were the highest administrative officers of the pope's household; with the growth of the temporal power of the popes they acquired great importance.
Modern usage
In Early Modern England, the term palatinate, or county palatine, was also applied to counties of lords who could exercise powers normally reserved to the crown. Likewise, there were palatine provinces among the English colonies in North America: Cecilius Calvert, Lord Baltimore, was granted palatine rights in Maryland in 1632, as were the proprietors of the Carolinas in 1663.
In 19th century Britain and Germany, paladin was an official rank and considered an honorary title for one in service of the emperors. It was a Knight with additional honours, they were entitled to exercise powers normally reserved to the crown.
During the second reinstating of a German Empire called the Third Reich, Hermann Groing was also given the title "Paladin" referring to the tradition of a title that made the carrier second to the king.
The official title has come out of fashion, but the meaning of a character full of virtue remains, and one called a paladin is meant to be a thoughtful, virtuous man. Given the history of the term, it would give a wrong impression, since a paladin is in a way close to a monk.
Some modern role playing games and fantasy literature make use of a "paladin" character class based on the medieval concept. For computers, board games and many more there are popular game characters listed on paladin (disambiguation). Fantasy paladins are usually holy knights, combining both combat and healing abilities.
Edited, Apr 6th 2007 8:26am by CobraMisfit
Originally, the paladine was created first in Ancient Rome as a chamberlain of the Emperor and the imperial palace guard called praetorian guard by Diocletian. In the early Middle Ages, the meaning changed into the official of the Catholic Church in the pope's service and one of the major nobleman of the Holy Roman Empire, named count palatine. Similar titles were also used in 19th century Hungary and in the German Empire and United Kingdom during the early 20th century.
In medieval literature, the paladins or Twelve Peers were known in the Matter of France as the retainers of Charlemagne. Based on this usage, the term can also refer to an honorable knight, which has been used in contemporary fantasy literature
Catholic Church
In the Middle Ages, the judices palatini ('[papal] palace judges') were the highest administrative officers of the pope's household; with the growth of the temporal power of the popes they acquired great importance.
Modern usage
In Early Modern England, the term palatinate, or county palatine, was also applied to counties of lords who could exercise powers normally reserved to the crown. Likewise, there were palatine provinces among the English colonies in North America: Cecilius Calvert, Lord Baltimore, was granted palatine rights in Maryland in 1632, as were the proprietors of the Carolinas in 1663.
In 19th century Britain and Germany, paladin was an official rank and considered an honorary title for one in service of the emperors. It was a Knight with additional honours, they were entitled to exercise powers normally reserved to the crown.
During the second reinstating of a German Empire called the Third Reich, Hermann Groing was also given the title "Paladin" referring to the tradition of a title that made the carrier second to the king.
The official title has come out of fashion, but the meaning of a character full of virtue remains, and one called a paladin is meant to be a thoughtful, virtuous man. Given the history of the term, it would give a wrong impression, since a paladin is in a way close to a monk.
Some modern role playing games and fantasy literature make use of a "paladin" character class based on the medieval concept. For computers, board games and many more there are popular game characters listed on paladin (disambiguation). Fantasy paladins are usually holy knights, combining both combat and healing abilities.
Edited, Apr 6th 2007 8:26am by CobraMisfit
From Dictionary.com
1. any one of the 12 legendary peers or knightly champions in attendance on Charlemagne.
2. any knightly or heroic champion.
3. any determined advocate or defender of a noble cause.
1. A paragon of chivalry; a heroic champion.
2. A strong supporter or defender of a cause: "the paladin of plain speaking" (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.)
3. Any of the 12 peers of Charlemagne's court.
1592, "one of the 12 knights in attendance on Charlemagne," from M.Fr. paladin "a warrior," from It. paladino, from L. palatinus "palace official;" noun use of palatinus "of the palace" (see palace). The O.Fr. form of the word was palaisin (which gave M.E. palasin, c.1400); the It. form prevailed because, though the matter was French, the poets who wrote the romances were mostly Italians.
someone who fights for a cause [syn: champion]
So, the name Paladin has been used for holy men, similar to monks (as mentioned above) as well as for someone who fights for a cause. In the case of wow, this is a holy cause, however you will notice that sometimes they are more warrior-ish (arms/ret and prot/prot), and sometimes they are more priest-ish (holy/holy). This is not because Paladins were holy warriors, but because "paladin" could mean a holy-man, or a warrior, so based on your spec you could fulfill either definition.
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1. any one of the 12 legendary peers or knightly champions in attendance on Charlemagne.
2. any knightly or heroic champion.
3. any determined advocate or defender of a noble cause.
Quote:
1. A paragon of chivalry; a heroic champion.
2. A strong supporter or defender of a cause: "the paladin of plain speaking" (Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.)
3. Any of the 12 peers of Charlemagne's court.
Quote:
1592, "one of the 12 knights in attendance on Charlemagne," from M.Fr. paladin "a warrior," from It. paladino, from L. palatinus "palace official;" noun use of palatinus "of the palace" (see palace). The O.Fr. form of the word was palaisin (which gave M.E. palasin, c.1400); the It. form prevailed because, though the matter was French, the poets who wrote the romances were mostly Italians.
Quote:
someone who fights for a cause [syn: champion]
So, the name Paladin has been used for holy men, similar to monks (as mentioned above) as well as for someone who fights for a cause. In the case of wow, this is a holy cause, however you will notice that sometimes they are more warrior-ish (arms/ret and prot/prot), and sometimes they are more priest-ish (holy/holy). This is not because Paladins were holy warriors, but because "paladin" could mean a holy-man, or a warrior, so based on your spec you could fulfill either definition.
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