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#1 Apr 06 2007 at 1:07 AM Rating: Decent
I have started a Drenai Shammy "pleae dont all groan at once".

Im at level 17 now on a PvE server. I have not invested in any talents yet and will prolly wait till 19 before I do so. (Gives me a bit of time to find out where to go).

Can you guys give me a bit of background on what specs/gear I should be looking at getting?, and utimately what sort of role can I look to play in the future. .ie. can I heal with the best of them, DPS with the best of them or just be ready to be versatile? (BTW I have a level 70 Mage so DPS is not the be all and end all of where I want to be).

What totems are your bread and butter. (I am finding that some of my totems are actually pulling unwanted mobs so I am reluctant to use some of them).

What level do Shammy's really come into their own and what is the deciding factor of that?

I know its alot of questions but the boards are where to find the answers.


Thanks in advance

#2 Apr 06 2007 at 6:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Ive played shaman for a lil while now (lvl 39) but am by no means an expert so take this as just advise and not what im telling you to do:

First thing you will want to do is decide what you like doing. Being a mage you might be tired of standing back and blasting things with spells. Then again you may love it and never want to leave that life style. If so the Elemental Talent Tree is for you. It will boost your damage, range, and mana efficiency of your range spells.

On the other hand, if you are tired of standing in the back lines and blasting and would like to jump right into the fray, Enhancement is where your talent points should go. This will give you the ability to equip 2-handed axes and maces as well as duel weild. This tree is a must for any melee based shaman.

If you are looking to take a back up role and keep your fellow group members in tip-top shape you, my friend, are staring at the Restoration Tree. This is vastly improve your healing capabilities as well as their mana efficiency. With this you will be doing a lot of grouping and people will love you for it.

The easiest, as most shaman will agree, is to level up using the Enhancement talent tree. Personally, this is what I did and im never looking back. I will most likely respec at level 58 like everyone else but until then im full enchancement. But try them out. With a level 70 mage you probably have a few gold that u can burn by trying out new talent trees. Find one that fits your play style.

Totems at an early age are very limited and very unpotent. I remember not using them much myself until I obtained the higher level ones. I'm not recommending that you do this however. I regret not using them because, as you know, good totem placement is key. This is a skill that should be practiced when at lower levels when the reprocustions are not so great, and NOT practiced in an instance when your group is yelling at you to drop your totems.

Shamans really start to shine when they get windfury. That is if you are melee. If you are specced into a different talent tree besides enhancement I cant help you much. If you do, however, decide to go Enhancement wait til you get windfury before you make any decissions about the melee capabilities of the class.

I'm not very expericenced at posting in these boards but I hope this answered some of your questions.

Edited, Apr 6th 2007 9:40am by Serevixx
#3 Apr 06 2007 at 6:39 AM Rating: Decent
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edit: I tried to edit my post because I made the mistake of saying "2-handed axes and swords." What I meant to say was "2-handed axes and MACES." Sorry for the misinformation. I tried editing my post but, again, Im new and I couldnt get it to work.
#4 Apr 06 2007 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
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comonly it is normal for folks to level using Enhacment builds, it is deffentely the "Fastest" way to level. enhancment builds focus on your swinging dammage(no mana cost) and using your mana to heal yourself, this recudes downtime and speeds up leveling. It comes at a cost though this is a very solo build, you generaly will not have suffecent MP to heal a party in a istnace(well not mail healer), that is unless you go out of your way to get gear to heal with (you want mana in this gear)

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utimately what sort of role can I look to play in the future

Well as a hybrid, you will not do anything "Like the Best of them" That is not to say that you will not excel at them, just that somebody else can usualy do it better. For example if you spec elemental, you will be capapble of Burst dammage to make a mage jelous(just not for very long) if you spec Enhancment, a rogue or well geared fury warrior will almost always out dammage you, or if you spec resto a priest will outheal you, but unlike the 4 classes I mentiond, a shaman can do them all(just not as well). This leaves you as group spackle, you fill the gaps, hold a mob for a while if you have to, do some pickup healing, and just whap stuff. Shaman do not have a definded role, even a enhcamcent shaman may be asked to heal on some encounters(and a good one dose not need to be asked, they rise to the occation) and even a resto shaman may find them selves on the front like beating mobs with Windfurry.

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What totems are your bread and butter. (I am finding that some of my totems are actually pulling unwanted mobs so I am reluctant to use some of them).

That depends on level, and situation, yet thats not the important part, it is all about positioning. you never realy want to drop a AoE totem inside a host of mobs, generaly you want to stay outside the mobs, setup a lil safe ground then pull the mob to you. As you level up and pick a spec, the totems you use will change. then some totems are just plain situational, like the fire and ice resestance totems. stone claw and earthbind are good escape tools, while healing stream dose a ok job of post mitigating dammage(it is not a good healer spell, but works to reduce the healing burdon). Relay what you use is defined by your party and your prefrence, the trick is droping them in good spots, then pulling the mobs to you.

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What level do Shammy's really come into their own and what is the deciding factor of that?

Like most classes 40-45, at this point you have most of your core skills and only have new ranks to learn of them. A shamans power comes from the elements and by level 40, you have masterd them, realy though, Windfury is the one that makes a shaman so deadly(or it did when I was leveling)
#5 Apr 06 2007 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
I have a level 56 shaman on a PVP server and I love playing him! I would agree that Enhancement is the way to go for grinding out your levels. What I did though is put a few in Elemental tree; reducing the mana cost of lightning spells and increasing the damage caused as well as the Clear Casting state. Everything else I have is in Enhancement!

Shamans are great against casters! I have Earth Shock as two separate spots on my action bar; level 1, because it does very little damage but interrupts spell casting so you can get in close for melee, and the high level one because of the damage it does.

Regarding the totems, against casters, Grounding Totem is a must! It absorbs their biggest nuke! The other post had the right idea though, practice your totems early to get good with them. The AOE totems aren't that great when you're in a group, because if the mage sheeps someone, the AOE totem will take it right off.

Shamans are fun though because they are indeed a Jack of All Trades! Have fun with him!
#6 Apr 06 2007 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
I have a lvl 56 Shaman it has been a fun char to play,but can be a bit frustrating at times. Be prepaired to be kicked from groups in instances because most people have no idea what a shaman can do. One thing I do in instances is Always lay down windfury and magma totems.Your tanks will love you.
The windfury will add hugh buffs to damage and magma sets them on fire plus makes it much easier to tell friend from foe. This really comes in handy in dark places.I am a enchantment Shaman which is more fun for me,it gives you more melee power.One thing I really do not like about the Shaman is the lack of MANA!!!! It takes much longer to lvl than my pally,warrior,and mage because of the down time waiting to regen my frigging MANNA!!! its cool to have a char
that everyone else does'nt have and can do so many things. Have fun and by the way bring LOTS OF WATER!!!
Bittles
#7 Apr 06 2007 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
I don't actually have the mana issues. I'm Enhancement spec, but I suppose I'm geared more for a caster; +Stamina and +Int on my gear as well as +30Int enchant on my weapon. I can usually take on 2 - 3 mobs within 3 levels of me before I have to drink anything; but I always try to keep plenty of water and food on me at all times just in case.
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