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That's fine. However, the fact that you haven't taken the next step and rerolled on a PvP server does tell me you're a griefer. Do you always need to play on the same server as your friend? No. There is nothing from rolling on a PvP server and letting your friend know where you are. On a PvP server, what you are doing, banishing another player's target, is fine, since that player has the option to attack you outright. A PvE server has a different ruleset, and what you are doing is considered harassment, because PvE servers do not have the concept of a "PvP solution", regardless of whether or not you have your flag up. So, either shut up and accept it, or reroll on a PvP server.

Exactly, thanks for making my point.

You wanna know why people are rude to you?

"Do unto others as you wish them to do to you."

Not just a religious tenet, but a fact of social life.

I agree completely except this is my original post...



Note how there is no rude remarks made to anyone in my post. I also avoided the use of caps and even used proper sentences and spelling, something which is in direct contrast to trolls. Here are some remarks to my seemingly polite post...




Then when I responded by saying that this person did not know me whatsoever...




Other rude posts include...









So yeah... I don't really understand your "do unto others" proverb because I was merely responding appropriately considering the several rude remarks that were directed at me.

Also, notice how I didn't include Angelblacks post above me because those WERE troll statements. I just thought I would demonstrate the difference because people here can't seem to tell which is which. Angelblacks insults would be deserved, but all the other ones are not.









Edited, Apr 10th 2007 2:09pm by sjdschool

I pretty much knew you would say this. Let me put it another way. The concept of a PvP Solution to a problem DOES NOT EXIST ON A PVE SERVER. What you are doing is considered harassment, as you are interfering with another player's gameplay. The same can be said for ganking and corpse camping. They are interrupt the other player's gameplay. The difference, however, is that on a PvP server, Blizzard's reponse is simple "use PvP". If someone is doing those activities to you, they want to to fight back or call your friends and/or guildmates over to stop that player. That's a PvP solution. On a PvE server, that is not the case. There is no form of PvP solution, regardless of whether or not you have your flag up or not. In fact, if your flag was down, that person would not be able to retaliate against you. Blizzard does not care if your flag was up or down. You were harassing another player on a PvE server, and you received a warning for it.



Keep it up, and those people won't need to attack you, as you will get a suspension, and then a ban. On a PvE you have to share, if you don't like that fact, reroll on a PvP server.

Nope, I'm not banned yet dragon master mike, so I think I will just keep where I'm at for now. But why all the negativity towards PvP? Ahhhhh... I get it. You must suck at it, right?

Edited, Apr 10th 2007 10:15pm by sjdschool

Talking **** about PVP on a PVE server is funny.

Now that is one mighty mature answer. How old are you? 7?

Said the man too scared to roll on a PvP server..

The negativity is towards griefing, not PvPing. Let me again spell it out.

When you mess around in a competitive farming area on a PvP server, you're not only going to deal with a PvP response from the guy you're messing with, but most likely also from every other guy in his faction around. That's the PvP server ecosystem, it's part of the game on those servers and players who got to that level have long since adapted to it.

When you grief around on a PvE server, you do it with the intent to goad one single other player into going /PvP so you can kill him with little risk of retaliation from the rest of the nearby players - they'll mostly stick to their own business.

I personally think you're on a PvE server because you are too much of a coward to deal with the realities of a PvP server. From what you're describing of your actions, you are the typical schoolyard bully - you'd never have the guts to pick a fair fight.

Everything you'll get in response to your harassment will not only be warranted, but well deserved.

Keep being a pain in the *** griefer and you'll be starting from scratch real soon.

God and like a idoit i keep typing in this thred.

I do not agree with the tone in this thred, I have tryed my best to make all MY posts as non inflamatory as possible. I understand the furstration sjdschool is going though, I had to deal with it myself(we choose diffrent ways of doing so but we both had to deal with it).

Unforutanaly the only way to deal with this is to re roll, though it is not nearly as bad as anybody thinks it is. Firstly WoW is realy only difficult to level if you have never done it, drag one toon to level 55 and you pretty much have the jist of the game down pat. You should know what zones to level in , you should know what mobs drop what quest items, you know what instances to run, and how to run them. By this time you should know that low level tradeskills are not the best of choices and that by gathering you can have all the stuff you want(untill late in the game). Secondly(did i just make that word up?)folks on PvP servers tend to be more helpful , if you need a hand for a quest or to run a instance it is not the teeth pulling experance it usualy is on a PvE server.

Lastly and MOST importantly PvP servers are not the gankfest they were one year ago(well not on Azaroth). And this is the reason I see it fit to open PvE to PvP transfers. Heck even in Mid December the servers were nuts, bands of level 60's running arround STV for the soul intent of killing lowbies(slowing there progression is what the folks in Org called it). When the Dark Portal opened up a whole lot changed on the 2 servers I Play on. All of the sudden Ironforge and Org were empty, Hillsbrad, Empty ,STV, empty. Thats right Rather than waiting for Battlegournds or just being a pest, folks took there toons off to go play the game(amazing What happens when Bliz releaces content for non raiders)in a zone approiate to them.

to me it is clear that the OP wants to play PvP and since blizard will not help, it is his job to fix the issue, buecause you cannot stop Carebares from crying about PvP forced on them, it is time to reroll. Remember though, it is a game, it is supposed to be fun so if leveling a toon to 70 seems like work.... maybe a diffrent game is for you? I know that for me the most fun of the game is leveling, it surely is not sitting at a level cap waiting for blizard to charge you to level up again.

Edited, Apr 12th 2007 12:35pm by Capitolg

Everyone just ignore this post from now on...Some people don't understand obvious problems, and they won't "see" their faults just because someone tells them. Let him learn his mistakes the hard way if after all these posts he fails to see them.

I'd probably corpse camp him if he did that to me. If he's stupid enough to **** people off with his flag up I'd be happy to indulge him.

...and I'll be waiting for that argument filtering out of the station. That'd make my day.

Edited, Apr 23rd 2007 11:37am by Banatu