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#1 Apr 10 2007 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Since I started in Stranglethorn a couple levels ago, my boar has had a really hard time holding aggro and the monsters often come charging after me instead.

I am level 32 and my boar is 31. He has growl 4, charge 1, and gore 1 (and bite 1 which I never use).

Is it because we are attacking things 3 or so levels higher then me? Do I need to up the ranks on his skills? Something else? He's up to date on his pet training.

He was always able to hold hate until recently, and it's getting annoying because I'm constantly having disengage (usually ignored) and/or feign death to save my own skin.
#2 Apr 10 2007 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
you need a higher level Charge and higher level Gore, also Bite.

You should be using all your pets skill,s gore, bite, and charge and growl, his energy bar should not have a problem staying mostly full.

To get the new skills you need to put your boar in the stable, go train a level 30 boar that has highest level Gore, charge, and bite. You might need to traina few different animals to get max level skills.

But to get the new skills you have to train your new pet, feed him until he is happy, then you will learn the new skills he has to offer (Use Animal Lore before taming the beast to make sure he has new skills you need).

Once you have the new skills you can dismiss your temporary pet, go gte your main boar from the stable, un-train him at the Beast Trainer (Will only be 10 silver)

And then your boar will hold aggro great.

ENJOY THE BOAR!!

PS. I am 70 hunter and it is impossible to grind without a boar, THEY NEVER LOSE AGGRO!!
#3 Apr 10 2007 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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You might want to just make sure growl is on auto-cast. I have to admit a couple times I couldnt figure out why my pet kept losing aggro, then I saw I accidently turned growl off and had to slap myself. Other than that, maybe let your pet hit for a couple of sec. and build hate before you unleash hell.
#4 Apr 10 2007 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
What Mattzz said. Go get the new ranks of Charge and Gore.
But it really shouldn't be necessary. Just let the pet get off a growl, and a few hits before you start doing damage. Make sure the growl isn't resisted, because if it is, your pet has no more threat than the damage done. That way you will have aggro as soon as you do more damage than the pet.
#5 Apr 10 2007 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
Wait. OP said he's fighting things 2 and 3 levels above him.

I'm pretty sure this will cause problems with ANY pet holding agro *if the target resists growl.*

And esp. at 3 lvls and more higher, it will resist growl more often (I'm pretty sure).

I need a better hunter than I am to confirm this - I play locks and hunters - and I know, 100% sure, that a VW and Felguard can have their taunt resisted. I'm 99.9% a hunter pet's Growl can also be resisted.

If there is a growl resist - you see "RESIST" above its head. Hold back on your damage and let him land a growl before you lay on the dps.

#6 Apr 10 2007 at 12:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just let the pet get off a growl, and a few hits before you start doing damage. Make sure the growl isn't resisted, because if it is, your pet has no more threat than the damage done. That way you will have aggro as soon as you do more damage than the pet.


This is especially true when fighting mobs three and four levels above you. Don’t get me wrong, hunters can do this fairly easily. When I was leveling with a pet spider in Duskwood we were steadily fighting mobs four levels above me and five levels above my spider. And I only occasionally pulled agro. But I had to be careful. I’d let my spider hit first. After a few bites and a growl I’d hit the mob with a sting and auto shoot. That’s all I would do, auto shoot and reapply the sting as needed. With higher level mobs, if you start pumping out huge amounts of damage you’re just asking for them to run up and attack you.

My spider only had growl and bite. Boars can generate more agro with charge and gore, so you have a larger margin for error. But you still need to use some caution when killing mobs more than a couple of levels above you.
#7 Apr 10 2007 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Go get the new ranks of Charge and Gore.


Any idea where? I play a troll hunter and all of the mid-level boars seem to be in Alliance territory. I could likely get there, but it would be a long walk with no pet :(
#8 Apr 10 2007 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks Cala! Cala is another great poster here who really knows stuff!

Yes, do make sure a Growl lands before laying on dps when fighting things 3+ lvls above you.

You tend to see a "resist" in the air above target's head if they resist Growl. If Growl lands, you tend to see a blueish purplish ' ' ' above their heads.

Again, my problem is that I play lock and hunter - and I don't want to confuse you w/ demon stuff. I would go so far as to, on a target 3+ lvls above me, not to shoot a bit until at least one Growl lands. If a Growl or two gets resisted mid-fight, you can easily pull agro, too. If you see Growls missing mid-fight, that might mean its time to not do that Arcane Shot or whatever - or even stop auto-shooting a tad - until target's hurt enough that if it charges you, it is too late for the target - it's dead, anyway.

Of course, Conc Shot, Wing Clips, traps - even FD - we have ways to deal w/ unwanted agro. But watching for taunts/growls to land is often the best, and holding back on our dps til pet gets a tighter hold on agro.

Note, while its fun and thrilling to hunt stuff over your level, some of the best and most efficient gringing is on low yellows and high greens, according to many. In fact, Jame's leveling guides put you on pretty easy-to-kill stuff. I know this can get boring, and the thrill of killing somehting red to you is good - I like doing that, too! But you may want to move to an easier area of STV for yellows and low yellows for "pure grinding" - it tends to go faster - in part because there are fewer deaths and fewer times you have to run, fd, etc. GL!
#9 Apr 10 2007 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Any idea where? I play a troll hunter and all of the mid-level boars seem to be in Alliance territory. I could likely get there, but it would be a long walk with no pet :(


Bellygrub, Lakeshire.

Horde can get there - he's west of the town - if you're in a pvp server, just be sneaky.

Or check Petopia at Brashendeavors.net.

GL
#10 Apr 10 2007 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Just going to hijack this thread for a quick second. I love my boar and I've yet to have problems with him holding agrro, the little bugger is a beast, but anyway this is my question.

I've yet to even learn bite(i know where to get it but hasn't been necessary so far for aggro management. Also, I turned off Gore, because it was wasting his energy bar faster than IDK what by lv 20 or so. It was charge>Gore>2 taunts and he was almost out of energy, so I turned it off. I was going to ask this a long time ago, but didnt since he seemed to hold aggro just fine.

Now, am I missing something here?? By reading the above posts you guys seem to recommend having Gore and Bite on auto. Keep in mind I don't like to rest every second fight(I dont rest much at all), but with Gore on auto I seem to always be waiting for the pet to regain some energy before moving on, and If I took on two mobs at a time, then he was out entirely by 50% health of the second mob. Is this unusual?? I'm talking fighting stuff no more than 2 lvs above me.

EDIT: BTW lv 26 atm.

Edited, Apr 10th 2007 5:01pm by givingitatry
#11 Apr 10 2007 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
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you guys seem to recommend having Gore and Bite on auto.


Not a hijack. I don't recommend this.

Bite and Growl is the classic, old school combo. It still works.

Charge, Growl and Gore OR Bite - I'd try that - unless you have talents to boost focus regen a lot.

With the BM talent to increase focus regen or the MM talent GftT, you can keep more things on autocast. It kind of depends on what and how you're fighting at a given time. Learn what works when and where and adjust accordingly.

But w/out one of these talents, having Gore and Bite on auto = quick burning of focus = growls will not be cast mid-fight which tends to = pet losing agro.

If pet loses agro late enough in fight it's no biggie. It gets annoying when it happens before you want it to. GL!

Edited, Apr 10th 2007 5:52pm by IponemaGirl
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