I rarely do.
Although it's nice to send targets with low mana pools into OOM oblivion, it's much easier and safer to just kill them with Drain Life instead. I do have 3/3 Mana Feed so my demon receives 100% of the mana drained, but Life Tap does the same and much more effeciently.
At level 63 my Drain Mana drains 169 mana every second making it a total of 845 mana over 5 seconds. My Hunter, who by no means have a lot of mana, still has 3200 mana. I would need to use Drain Mana at least three times on him to suck him dry. Three times five seconds, meaning I'll spend 15 seconds doing nothing but suck his mana while he can kill me all he wants.
It's a shame it doesn't increase with spell power. And if it does, it's a shame it doesn't receive a bigger bonus.
What's your opinion on the spell and its usefulness? How often do you use it and for what?
Edited, Apr 15th 2007 9:50pm by Mazra
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Mazra wrote:
I rarely do.
Although it's nice to send targets with low mana pools into OOM oblivion, it's much easier and safer to just kill them with Drain Life instead. I do have 3/3 Mana Feed so my demon receives 100% of the mana drained, but Life Tap does the same and much more effeciently.
At level 63 my Drain Mana drains 169 mana every second making it a total of 845 mana over 5 seconds. My Hunter, who by no means have a lot of mana, still has 3200 mana. I would need to use Drain Mana at least three times on him to suck him dry. Three times five seconds, meaning I'll spend 15 seconds doing nothing but suck his mana while he can kill me all he wants.
It's a shame it doesn't increase with spell power. And if it does, it's a shame it doesn't receive a bigger bonus.
What's your opinion on the spell and its usefulness? How often do you use it and for what?
Edited, Apr 15th 2007 9:50pm by Mazra
Although it's nice to send targets with low mana pools into OOM oblivion, it's much easier and safer to just kill them with Drain Life instead. I do have 3/3 Mana Feed so my demon receives 100% of the mana drained, but Life Tap does the same and much more effeciently.
At level 63 my Drain Mana drains 169 mana every second making it a total of 845 mana over 5 seconds. My Hunter, who by no means have a lot of mana, still has 3200 mana. I would need to use Drain Mana at least three times on him to suck him dry. Three times five seconds, meaning I'll spend 15 seconds doing nothing but suck his mana while he can kill me all he wants.
It's a shame it doesn't increase with spell power. And if it does, it's a shame it doesn't receive a bigger bonus.
What's your opinion on the spell and its usefulness? How often do you use it and for what?
Edited, Apr 15th 2007 9:50pm by Mazra
I use it occasionally, but it takes extraordinary circumstances. Usually when I'm soloing against multiple self-healers. Otherwise, no.
very rarely in pvp. in pve, i know there is a boss in AQ. like another poster said, against self healers, it is nice to take them down even more. there have been times when i feared people then drained them.
I use it in pve almost any possible time. But in pvp, the only time I use it is when I'm in AV and and low on mana and health.
Drain Mana gives about 200-300mana more than it costs to cast/channel. And that's assuming you are NOT interrupted. I never use it.
Even if you are Affliction and drain mana them with all your DoTs on them it's still not worth the time. Most casters have enough mana to outlast that. Like you said it'd take 15seconds to suck your hunter dry. This is a hunter we're talking about. Most Casters have atleast double maybe even triple that.
Even if you are Affliction and drain mana them with all your DoTs on them it's still not worth the time. Most casters have enough mana to outlast that. Like you said it'd take 15seconds to suck your hunter dry. This is a hunter we're talking about. Most Casters have atleast double maybe even triple that.
Just out of curiousity, is there any TBC raid boss where a mana drain at start is being used like eg Venoxis (when you cannot bruteforce him)?
I dont use it very much but if you are playing against elite mobs by yourself then you can DoT them up, let your pet hold the aggro and drain mana to keep them to using a melee weapon.
With regards to your hunter point, I don't know anything bout hunters but I would have thought that if you have mana and spells you would use them so it would take less than 15 seconds as your hunter would be burning mana attacking or healing himself and you would be sucking it out of him.
I think generally the only use for this spell is against tough spellcasters to keep their mana down once they have burned off most of it. Although the number of situations there are where that happens and the mob still has lots of health left probably isnt many.
With regards to your hunter point, I don't know anything bout hunters but I would have thought that if you have mana and spells you would use them so it would take less than 15 seconds as your hunter would be burning mana attacking or healing himself and you would be sucking it out of him.
I think generally the only use for this spell is against tough spellcasters to keep their mana down once they have burned off most of it. Although the number of situations there are where that happens and the mob still has lots of health left probably isnt many.
Tried few times quite long ago and, either I didnt know how to use it properly either it just isnt my thing, never after. I even took ot off my hotbars, its too full with other stuff anyway.
Somehow I am more keen on attacking their hp than mana pools.
Used it VERY seldom. Which translates to 'neverused in the last 4 months'.
I have mana feed, too, which allows me to restore 100% of the mana I gain (with life tap) to my pet.
Way more efficient.
I have mana feed, too, which allows me to restore 100% of the mana I gain (with life tap) to my pet.
Way more efficient.
I used it a few times when I was vengeance-ganking a mage that jumped me previously in STV. Used it just to keep her mana pool nil while my Felhunter did the rest.
And on other occasions I try to "Bleed" casters so they cant cast, I never use it to generate mana.
That was pretty much it.
And on other occasions I try to "Bleed" casters so they cant cast, I never use it to generate mana.
That was pretty much it.
I only use it for Raid bosses that have to be keept oom(ok... mobs that have to be kept oom). The big guy for the Sithilus Raid quest needs to be kept OOM or he dose this "Death Donut" deal.... other than than a few mobs that just cannot be trusted to have MP, nope
doodlewarlock wrote:
This is a hunter we're talking about. Most Casters have atleast double maybe even triple that.
Yeah, my level 70 Mage friend has 9,000 mana points or so. Trying to drain that is like pissing in the ocean, pardon my language.
Hawkeyetwofive wrote:
With regards to your hunter point, I don't know anything bout hunters but I would have thought that if you have mana and spells you would use them so it would take less than 15 seconds as your hunter would be burning mana attacking or healing himself and you would be sucking it out of him.
That's true. Most Hunters, or at least my own, blow their mana in a few seconds to try and nuke the opponent before things go bad. I was merely using my Hunter to show that it would take a long time to drain a relatively small mana pool. Normally I wouldn't even bother with Drain Mana on a Hunter due to him delivering twice my health in damage before I could suck him dry. Not to mention his pet doesn't need mana to make slush ice out of me.
With the high mana cost and the low drain effect, Drain Mana looks like it was designed to make others go out of mana in PvP. Like the Hunter's Viper Sting or the Priest's Mana Burn. But they forgot to scale it or something.
Edited, Apr 17th 2007 1:21am by Mazra
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I use it on Hunters and Pallies when they're down around 1/4 mana. Using it when they're full is pointless, you'll make a dent, but not enough of one to make a difference since they just adjust a bit to having a bit less mana. Using it when they're LOW means you're looking at depriving them of late fight healing or attacks. Timing is everything.
I use life tap and drain life all the time I have experimented with drain mana and think it is for the most part useless.
When fighting lowbie mana classes and then to /laugh at them.
I like it. I would rather have the spell than not have it. I use it sometimes, like in WSG and stuff, I go hide in a bush and suck a healer's mana away. Before I do that of couse I drop Corr. and CoT on his punk ***.Maybe an unstable affliction. But you know what?
Locks own.
Locks own.
that's so sadistic I'm going to have to try it. Drain Mana a lowbie caster so his mob kills him. Perfecto.
I use it in pvp against any mana user that has their mana low. I occasionally like to do "embarassing kills" like drain their mana and keep draining their mana to beat any regen while they wear a curse of weakness and I straight up tank them (stupid pally's lol).
As for actual usefulness... it doesnt drain enough mana to be useful very often. which is kind of disappointing, but works well when 3 or 4 locks gang up on the same person, or you get behind a healer that is low on mana. Otherwise I see it as a spell that can keep me entertained when I am bored.
As for actual usefulness... it doesnt drain enough mana to be useful very often. which is kind of disappointing, but works well when 3 or 4 locks gang up on the same person, or you get behind a healer that is low on mana. Otherwise I see it as a spell that can keep me entertained when I am bored.
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