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#1 Apr 17 2007 at 7:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I was initially fury spec but respec'd to protection, so I never really used shield block. I'm 52 atm, and in un'goro crator at the Fire Plume Quest list, but the elementals really took me down fast, wasn't sure why they were so tough other than the fact that they have a few levels on me. So I went back and did a few quests I've missed in Feralas ... one of which also involved fighting sea elementals. While doing so I noticed shield block had no effect and in fact it didn't look like my shield did anything at all. I also have a Talisman of Arathor (limited immunity to physical attacks) and this was also totally worthless against the elementals. On top of that, they are immune to rend and its subsequent effects so an arms build would seem even more worthless against elementals. Has anyone else noticed these 'glitches', it seems completely unfair and seriously nerfs the warrior class against these types of creatures.
#2 Apr 17 2007 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
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You were so close to figuring this one out yourself...

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While doing so I noticed shield block had no effect and in fact it didn't look like my shield did anything at all. I also have a Talisman of Arathor (limited immunity to physical attacks) and this was also totally worthless against the elementals.


Your "problem" is that those elementals don't physically attack you! You're being hit by magic, that's why your shield/armor/trinket doesn't help you at all. You could be wearing cloth or leather, or even nothing at all...

Inrease your resistances and you'll be fine. You could even get yourself some potions and make yourself completely immune for a while.

I suggest enabling combat text or at least checking your combat log each time you see one of your "glitches". It generally tells you what kind of damage (fire/nature/frost etc) you're taking.
#3 Apr 18 2007 at 7:11 AM Rating: Decent
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elementals attack with elemental damage

ie , fire , frost , nature , shadow etc

even when they "melee"

so a shield really does no good besides give u stam if u have stam on it
armor doesn't reduce the damage taken
sheild block wont block anything either

the only way to counter elemental damage is by increase your stamina and your resistance that that particular resistance
#4 Apr 18 2007 at 7:15 AM Rating: Decent
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I called them 'glitches' not because they are bugs in the game, but because it doesn't seem to me like their melee attacks were meant to be purely nonphysical. I suppose my complaint is that in this instance the mobs and character abilities don't seem to function the way they should, and it makes for a very gimp fight.

Also, buying different pieces of armor just for cases where you fight Fire, Shadow, etc.. based opponents is a bit extreme. Maybe when I'm 70 or something, but I'm not quite that hardcore into my gear as of yet

Edited, Apr 18th 2007 11:18am by SixthAcolyte
#5 Apr 18 2007 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
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LOL

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Also, buying different pieces of armor just for cases where you fight Fire, Shadow, etc.. based opponents is a bit extreme.



DUDE u have alot to learn ... before BC came out, a tanking raid warrior would literally have atleast 3 sets of armor in thier bags ... melee tanking , fire resist and nature resist
very late end game would eventually mean u need a frost resistance set as well ...

each one of these sets would be FULL sets of armor, from helm to boots .. :)
and each one of these sets would cost thousands of gold, and mostly would be sponsored by guilds to thier main tanks

in BC currently, i havent seen very much with respect to heavy resistance fights
, cept maybe for arcane resist

i'm thinking the black temple raid would most likely have heavy shadow damage though , which sucks cause shadow resist is very limited at present ... :(
but im sure there will be sets available sooner or later
#6 Apr 18 2007 at 7:54 AM Rating: Decent
It's not worth acquiring resistance gear (well... going out of your way to acquire it, anyway) until you're level 70. For the record, though...

5-Man Heroics: Some Fire (Ramparts, Arcatraz) and Shadow (Mana Tombs, Arcatraz)-based fights.
Karazhan: No resistance based fights.
Gruul's Lair: No resistance based fights.
Serpentshrine Caverns: Extreme Nature Resistance/Frost Resistance fight (Hydross), Extreme Fire Resistance fight (Leotheras, depends on if you use a Lock or a Warrior to tank his Demon Form)
Tempest Keep: (Presumed) Fire Resistance Fight in Al'ar, the Pheonix God, as well as Kael'thas.
Caverns of Time - Hyjal: Unknown, some presumed Fire/Shadow Resistance fights.
Black Temple: Unknown, some presumed Shadow Resistance fights due to the massive amount of SR gear availible with the new reputation levels.
#7 Apr 18 2007 at 8:00 AM Rating: Decent
Just make a protection potion or two, they are cheap. I won't bother with resist gear since a set of resist gear is much more costly then a few potions. (You won't be fighting the elementals all that much since you aren't farming raids). Also, think about that poor fire mage against a fire elemental. We aren't affected that badly at all.

By the way, I think your problem might be simply because you spec protection. I have no trouble with those fire elementals in un'goro with arms, with no fire protection potion. Protection warriors are known to be low dps, and your armor isn't helping against non-physical attacks. Even my bursty dps is better in this situation. And by the way, why are you protection specced at level 52?

Edited, Apr 18th 2007 12:01pm by LittleHamster
#8 Apr 18 2007 at 8:47 AM Rating: Decent
Just get a good ole' Shaman to put some resistance totems down, and you'll be all set.
#9 Apr 18 2007 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree, don't go nuts trying to get different sets of armor. Just get a couple of potions and bring some food to get your health back between fights.

I am lvl 62 warrior and hate fighting elementals and some mechanicals.

I always charge and throw down as many thunder claps as I can and execute if it is close at the end.
#10 Apr 18 2007 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Black Temple: Unknown, some presumed Shadow Resistance fights due to the massive amount of SR gear availible with the new reputation levels.



yea, not to mention , they already had the Fire resist (mc, bwl), nature resist(aq,naxx) and frost resist (naxx) raids

some arcane resist for kara (curator,aran).. not much and probably not needed after a few runs in there

so all thats left is ... shadow :O
and well .. it is the .. BLACK temple .. black tends to be the colour of shadow in the game
#11 Apr 18 2007 at 9:15 AM Rating: Decent
...why in the world would you ever use Arcane Resistance for Aran? Curator I can almost see for the Hateful Bolt tank... but Aran?
#12 Apr 18 2007 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
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well i did say not much AR, the aran fight isnt that hard, just tricky at first
i'm just saying arcane resist would help since the most damage in the fight is mostly arcane since his fire and ice attacks are interrupted

i dont use it personally though :)
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