ktangent wrote:
Please don't take my responses and retool them to yours. My answer is *YES* you can play full arcane and it will work. Mana efficiency is not the end-all of mages. Sure, it might not be as efficient as some build, but the OP asked if it would WORK. I say, yes, it will work. You will have mana issues, but that is a trade off. I was trying to make them aware of that. "No" is not an accurate answer to their question.
First of all, I didn't mean to retool your answer ktangent, and I apologize if you took offense. I was just trying to emphasize a point I was trying to make. Now, on to me trying to explain my point :P
"If it will work"... well of course it will "work" in that there is nothing stopping a mage from speccing 61/0/0 (i.e. "all out arcane"). The way I interpreted his question (and I apologize if this was wrong, but I would argue it was a logical assumption) is whether or not that build would be a comparable build to other popular archtypes. And the answer to that is, "no".
Mana efficiency is the end-all for mages. Without mana, a mage is reduced to using a wand or melee damage.
ktangent wrote:
edit to add raiding stuff: Also... raiding is not all of PVE, in fact, there is a relatively small percentage of players in WoW overall that do raid (I think I read it was 7%).
I accounted for non-raid PvE content. I said it would hinder your group's progress because of mana issues. It is logical to assume that both you and your group will want to complete the encounter as smoothly and as quickly as possible. In that sense, a 61/0/0 build will not "work" in that it is not ideal. You can always argue that it is
possible but it would not be logical in terms of performance if given the choice.
Now, having said that, let's look at Darmaster's revised question:
darmaster wrote:
I think you guys miss what was saying I want to know if you couls go deep into arcane have viable build for pve, I know there no all out build that work except for frost. This build for mainly pve, I don't do raids at all.
It really depends on what you mean by "viable"...
Again, this depends on how you interpret "viable". If you mean whether it would be possible to do non-raid PvE content with that build, then yes of course it is. In fact, you could go with a 0/0/0 build and probably complete non-raid PvE instances. You'd have a hard time but it would be possible and there is nothing stopping you from casting spells and CC'ing and what not... The same goes for 61/0/0.
Now if by "viable" you are asking whether a 61/0/0 build would be comparable to other builds, then my opinion would be "no".
Aemadiaus wrote:
I beg to differ.
I was FULL arcane spec up until 2 days ago. I did very well in PvE. The downside to arcane build is you need decent DMG gear to get a good bonus to your arcane missiles. But the +Spell damage and +Crit chance talents make this build very viable.
The question is though, would you have done better with a different build? Probably yes.
Again, if it is a question of preference, then no one can tell you "yes" or "no" either way. If you want to play something different from the norm, by all means go for it. Will it be better than other popular choices? No, it won't. The reason there are more popular choices is because those choices perform better.
darmaster wrote:
Yes I was try to get an Ideal how deep go into acane make it work. But I like you different builds for arcane I see posted, I will have to try some of them.
Ahhh... Finally, the real question surfaces. Yes, there are a lot of deep arcane builds. You can find a lot of suggestions in other threads on this forum.
Edited, Apr 20th 2007 10:52am by echou