Nightfall worth it?Follow

Im a demonologist that is spilling over into affliction, and I was wondering if I should invest in nightfall at the expense of maxing grim reach and empowered corruption. I have +600 spell dmg, so i can see the value of EC. Basically, I have 5 points available and 7 places to put it. Any advice?

/me slips on his devils advocate hat(this pains be because I am the Biggest NF fanboy out there)

ya but you get the bonus to Corruption EVERY time you cast it, the SB still costs mana, so it is not free, just instant and fast. Overall Emp Corruption will boost your DPS at no addational MP cost, so from a aspect of effecenty Emp Corruption is the "Better".

/me slips the stupid hat off

Wheew, talking about any tallent being as good or better than Nightfall(OK Natures Swiftness is Almost as cool) makes my skin crawl. So from a purely numbers standpoint Emp Corruption holds a better path to expanding your damage, and if you are a exclusive raider it is the better choice, But if you do any PvP you may wish to embrace the beauty of Nightfall. By any PvP i mean stuff like... play on a PvP server, or ever go in to a BG.

It is nice to give the DoT heavy Affliction tree a lil Burst DpS, yet thats jsut my PoV.

I used to love nightfall while I was affliction, I still miss those procs.

Hmmmm...what if I put 1 in GR, 2 into NF, and 2 into EC?

For me it used to proc very fast, after casting last DoT, and I could trigger SB even twice on mobs 2-3 levels higher.

But I love demo now.
If my felguard has full mana pool at the beggining of the fight and I give him a sec or 2 after casting dots to build proper agg, I can hardly ever pull aggro from him.
Last time we were in Slave Pens he actually pulled aggro over our warrior tank and kept it few times.

We didnt have much of a tank, I know >.<




Edited, Apr 26th 2007 5:38am by Sethy

probabally. At the same time on my rogue (68) I've gained aggro and kept aggro on single target bosses before ... so long as I didn't spam feint every now and then. if there's a pally in the party it's allot better. he has some spell that decreases the hate I make by 30% and makes it easier for me to go full out on damage.

I dinged last night and put the point in NF and it didn't proc very much, (I think only once) and when it did the mob was already pretty much dead. I think I may put the next point in it just to see if 4% is significantly better. I probably should mention that I'm on a PvP server too and even though I don't really do that many BGs, I would love using it to gank/anti gank. At 4%, how often would you guys say NF procs when fighting another player?

Like me !!!

Let me tell you I like it quite a lot, even thought sometimes you get one of those bad days when it seems it nevers procs or is never in time there'll be other time you'll be thrilled to get that big shot in, it is sure nice in a pvp setting, or when something goes wrong and you or your pet are about to be killed before the DoT damage finishes him off.

And well, I'm pretty sure Imp. corruption gets the upper hand in a raid setting but NF might give you a boost on mobs or enemies were corruption will not run it's full course. And anyways when fighting mobs and bosses I always find it nice to be able to spout out a few quick 1.5k+ shadowbolts to boost my damage (more if you have some nice crit on your gear, I have 14% or so and I don't even stack it consciously).

And I can tell you, just today I was doing SV with a newbish mage who had never run it, and the warrior who explained the last boss to him appareantly neglected to tell him to cut his casts off as soon as the Warlord moved towards a water tank, and thus it was truly only the burst damage of some lucky NF procs (as well as Death coil on the first tank) that saved us from getting wip(p)ed.... that's the type of thing you love to happen.

sinse nightfall procs off a corruption tick (assuming you arent draining life) it makes more sense to me to have the tallent spent on the guarenteed damage source than the special occasion one. But like Ipo said, every once in a while nightfall will proc six times in a row and just blow away emp corruption. However I prefer the dependable (mana free) source.