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#1 Nov 28 2004 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
Hi all!

I am having very much lag(video lag) if i keep my sounds on in WoW or in FFXI.

During WoW OB, my FPS was about 10-25 with sounds and all video options on low and 800x600 resoltuion, then taking sounds off gave me about 30 MORE FPS!! Making it to 50-60 when having all video options on high and resolution at 1024x768

When i was playing FF XI i also had incredibly bad lag before i realised to turn sounds off, it helped ALOT, though i can't say FPS wise cause i didn't know how to check FPS in FF XI.

I heard that it can be caused by my integrated sound card eating my processor's juice ?

System specs:
1500 mhz P4
512mb ram
Radeon 9700 Pro 128mb
Intel D845WN mobo with integrated sound card *sigh*
Windows ME



Thanks in advance

PS. I don't have either game right now until WoW european beta starts
#2 Nov 30 2004 at 12:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Try updating your sound drivers, see if that helps the problem at all. Also, cant you just buy a new soundcard? They're not all that expensive. Also, Win ME is perhaps the worst OS around. Even Win 95/98 is better than ME.

Edited, Tue Nov 30 00:19:23 2004 by Kastigir
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#3 Nov 30 2004 at 8:38 AM Rating: Decent
I might a new sound card, but i wanna know will some 20€~ sound card help, or do i need better one?
#4 Nov 30 2004 at 9:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Price really isn't the determining factor. Post the type of card here and we can let you know. However, I think that ANY soundcard would be better than the integrated one you're using.
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#6 Nov 30 2004 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
Ok here it goes:
(they are in Finnish >< , cause my Windows is set for finnish)

IRQ 0 *System's Timer OK
IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard OK
IRQ 2 Ohjelmoitava keskeytysohjain OK
IRQ 3 *Informationtrafficport or communicationsport(dont know) (COM2) OK
IRQ 4 *Informationtrafficport or communicationsport(dont know) (COM1) OK
IRQ 5 Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller 1 OK
IRQ 5 ACPI IRQ -varaus PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK
IRQ 6 Standardi levykeasemaohjain OK
IRQ 7 Kirjoitinportti (LPT1) OK
IRQ 8 *System's CMOS/realtimeclock OK
IRQ 9 SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus OK
IRQ 9 Creative SB Live! Value (WDM) OK
IRQ 9 Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller 2 OK
IRQ 9 ACPI IRQ -allocation PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK
IRQ 10 Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller OK
IRQ 10 ACPI IRQ -allocation PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK
IRQ 11 RADEON 9700 PRO OK
IRQ 11 WDM Communication Device OK
IRQ 11 Realtek RTL8139(A) PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter OK
IRQ 11 ACPI IRQ -allocation PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK
IRQ 11 ACPI IRQ -allocation PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK
IRQ 11 ACPI IRQ -allocation PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK
IRQ 12 Logitech-compatible Mouse (PS/2) OK
IRQ 13 *Mathemathicsprocessor OK
IRQ 14 Intel(r) 82801BA Ultra ATA Controller OK
IRQ 14 Primary Ultra ATA controller OK
IRQ 15 Intel(r) 82801BA Ultra ATA Controller OK
IRQ 15 Secondary Ultra ATA controller OK

* Means translated manually
I hope i translated them right.

I have been looking for these three sound cards:

Sound Blaster Live 24-bit b

http://www.bdog.fi/cgi-bin/netstore/tuote.pl?tuote=0827801501492
(in Finnish too >_<)

Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Digital, PCI b

http://www.bdog.fi/cgi-bin/netstore/tuote.pl?tuote=0821401511680
(in Finnish..)

Hercules GameSurround Muse LT PCI

http://www.bdog.fi/cgi-bin/netstore/tuote.pl?tuote=0822013003878

Thanks for your help, i really appreciate it :)
#8 Dec 01 2004 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
Oh my noobness.

So i went to device manager and tried to find those things, but i only did find that Creative SB Live! and USB universal Host Controller 2, but then i saw that, that USB controller is on my printer, so i can't disable it, either my sound card hehe.
Oh and i found this too "IRQ 9 SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus OK"
But i can't disable it cause theres no option for it and can't change settings cause it doesn't let me.

IRQ 9 ACPI IRQ -allocation PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK, is the thing i didn't find, i have yet to got to disable any of these :(

Thanks
#10 Dec 01 2004 at 2:14 PM Rating: Decent
I changed the USB slot printer was, in so it isn't anymore in IRQ 9 and i disabled it, i think it is in 5 now(printer).

Quote:
Can you also move the slot the SB card is in to another?


Do you mean Slot inside the computer or IRQ slot? it is integrated so i can't change its slot inside PC... so maybe you meant IRQ, but i don't know how to change IRQ...oh my noobness...and is it safe to
EDIT: Spelling

Edited, Wed Dec 1 14:15:50 2004 by Filax
#11 Dec 06 2004 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
HL2 is now goign alot smoother(10-20 more fps) when i disabled my USB controller from IRQ 9 and took everything expect explorer from background programs, now i need to wait for WoW EU OB to start and test hows it going :)

Thanks for your help
#12 Dec 08 2004 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
So i'm going to buy a new sound card after christmas. I was wondering that when i buy new sound card and put it in and IF it goes to that same IRQ 9, which seems to make my games lag bad, can i change it?

Thanks
#13 Jan 05 2005 at 5:32 AM Rating: Decent
So i went and bought new sound card, put it in my comp, installed drivers and such. I also checked that it is in IRQ 10 now, but no help :(
At least in CS: source, so i need to wait few days to get to test WoW(final beta) and if it still lags, oh man i have no more ideas left(expect new comp heh, but too expensive atm)

Any one got any ideas left?

PS. When i was putting new card in to comp, i saw that my old sound card wasn't integrated. I don't still think that affects this anyhow.

Thank you
Filax
#15 Jan 05 2005 at 4:45 PM Rating: Decent
By doing some research i found out that i had integrated sound card, too. So i went to BIOS and it was disabled already, then i changed parallel port from "auto" to "disabled". This had no effect in lag :(

Maybe i need to try to live with lag heh
#17 Jan 06 2005 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
[quote]These issues can be a royal pain in the *************

And this one really is!

I really appreciate your help :)
#18 Jan 09 2005 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
Now when i have played WoW, i think that soundcard did the trick. Now when i turn all sound options off it doesn't give more fps, instead it stays at 10-25 all the time and being in big groups of people(like AH) it lags like hell. So now its video lag. My friend with similar comp to mine is getting 50-70 fps so something HAS to be wrong with my comp... :(

Any suggestions?
#20 Jan 13 2005 at 9:04 AM Rating: Decent
Hey again

I'm sorry that i didn't post this earlier but wow is now giving me good good fps(20-40, so i think new soundcard did its work.

Quote:
it stays at 10-25 all the time and being in big groups of people(like AH) it lags like hell.


And i think that was cause of huge rush into beta and noobie areas filled of people.

So there is no more problem about the lag(thanks to you!)

Thanks really for all your time you have used for this problem!

Now the problem that is left, is that there is no spell/skill sounds, but that can be also caused by my US client of WoW which i changed to EU using guides...
#22 Jan 14 2005 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
They are again in finnish...

IRQ 0 Järjestelmän ajastin OK
IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard OK
IRQ 2 Ohjelmoitava keskeytysohjain OK
IRQ 3 Tietoliikenneportti (COM2) OK
IRQ 4 Tietoliikenneportti (COM1) OK
IRQ 5 Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller 1 OK
IRQ 5 ACPI IRQ -varaus PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK
IRQ 6 Standardi levykeasemaohjain OK
IRQ 7 WDM Communication Device OK
IRQ 7 ACPI IRQ -varaus PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK
IRQ 8 Järjestelmän CMOS/reaaliaikakello OK
IRQ 9 SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus OK
IRQ 9 Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller 2 OK
IRQ 9 ACPI IRQ -varaus PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK
IRQ 10 CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device OK
IRQ 10 Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM SMBus Controller OK
IRQ 10 ACPI IRQ -varaus PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK
IRQ 11 RADEON 9700 PRO OK
IRQ 11 Realtek RTL8139(A) PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter OK
IRQ 11 ACPI IRQ -varaus PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK
IRQ 11 ACPI IRQ -varaus PCI IRQ -ohjaukselle OK
IRQ 12 Logitech-compatible Mouse (PS/2) OK
IRQ 13 Matematiikkasuoritin OK
IRQ 14 Intel(r) 82801BA Ultra ATA Controller OK
IRQ 14 Primary Ultra ATA controller OK
IRQ 15 Intel(r) 82801BA Ultra ATA Controller OK
IRQ 15 Secondary Ultra ATA controller OK
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