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#1 Jan 09 2005 at 10:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a problem with FFXI locking up my system. Both the FFXI Benchmark 3 and the FFXI game itself have this problem. My system is brand new, as I just finished building it thursday, and it doesn't have any spyware/adware/virus problems. If it is relevant for a solution, this is what's in it:

BFG FX 5700OC
Asus A7N8X E-Deluxe
AMD 2800+ Barton (XP)
1GB Kingston PC3200 ram

The system never locks up on anything except FFXI and the benchmark prog. I'm using the nvidia v66.93 driver if it matters. If anyone can help me to get this game running without freezing up, I would greatly appreciate it.

Edit - Oh yea, I have Win XP Pro SP2 running on it, for additional info for whatever relevance it has ^^

Edited, Sun Jan 9 22:14:35 2005 by XxmutinyxX
#2 Jan 10 2005 at 4:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Is the locking up of my system because of the video card, or some other aspect of the system, maybe the OS? Is anyone else having problems with FFXI on Win XP Pro SP2? Or have similar problems of system locking up while playing FFXI with any software/hardware whether similar or different from mine? I'm really desperate to get this fixed somehow ; ;

My system only locks up with FFXI and FFXI Benchmark 3, nothing else causes system to lock up =/ Thanks for any help.
#3 Jan 15 2005 at 4:48 PM Rating: Decent
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6 days and no one can help eh?
#4 Jan 15 2005 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Double post ><

Edited, Tue Jan 18 21:56:35 2005 by XxmutinyxX
#6 Jan 18 2005 at 3:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I had the same problem as you for ffxi

System Spec:-
AMD XP 3200+ Barton (400Mhz)
Asus A7N8X-E deluxe
512mb Kingston PC2700 ram
512mb Kingston PC3200 ram
Asus GF 5700 256mb

First thing to do, as AngstyCoder mentioned, is to check your supply rails... You can do that in the BIOS...

Make sure that the supply is no more than 10% off the stated amount...

Check that your directx version is up to date...

With regards to the "latest" nvidia driver, look for one that is WHQL signed... All the "newest" driver means is that it supports the latest cards (6800, etc etc..) I can't remember the link that I used to download the driver, but if you can't find it I can post it here later...

One final thing... After about 2 weeks of battling with my PC in terms of why it locks up, the thing that helped me the most was to change the AGP frequency to a bit above default... I have mine set to 80Mhz through the BIOS... I found this when I had problems and was experimenting with the setting...

Please note... These methods are ones that I have used, and they have worked for me... I cannot guarantee that it will work for you, and if it causes any adverse affects to your system, please use at your own risk...

Have a nice day :D
#7 Jan 18 2005 at 9:47 PM Rating: Decent
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board chipset drivers and video drivers are up to date.

the 12v rail is stable at around 12.4v and never drops below 12v

im not sure if there is an irq conflict however, and directx is fine, running 9.0c

as for changing the agp frequency, do you think that would help?
#8 Jan 18 2005 at 11:22 PM Rating: Good
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To see about IRQ conflicts:
click Start>Run
type msinfo32, enter
under hardware resources, select IRQ's

you can copy and post the list here, I think it's Angsty's favorite reading material.

I'm guessing you use the onboard audio, and don't have another sound card installed?
#10 Jan 19 2005 at 3:21 AM Rating: Decent
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IRQ 0 System timer OK
IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK
IRQ 5 NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management OK
IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
IRQ 12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse OK
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
IRQ 14 NVIDIA nForce2 ATA Controller (v2.6) OK
IRQ 15 NVIDIA nForce2 ATA Controller (v2.6) OK
IRQ 17 Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter, Copper RJ-45 OK
IRQ 19 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 OK
IRQ 20 NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller OK
IRQ 21 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller OK
IRQ 21 Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller OK
IRQ 21 NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) MCP Audio Processing Unit OK
IRQ 21 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller OK
IRQ 22 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller OK
IRQ 22 NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio Codec Interface OK

This is my power supply. It's the W0013 model.

Also using onboard sound, no sound card in there yet.
#11 Jan 19 2005 at 5:19 AM Rating: Decent
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as for changing the agp frequency, do you think that would help?


It worked for me... I don't know if it would do the same for you, but there shouldn't be any harm in trying... The most it can do is not boot up until you do a BIOS reset... :p
#13 Jan 19 2005 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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Disabling the onboard video wouldn't hurt either.
#14 Jan 19 2005 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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It is a ps/2 mouse and the board has no on-board video.
#15 Jan 20 2005 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Also make sure you get drivers from the vendor of the card as well. They might have tweaked some settings of the chipset to alter performance that Nvidia's OEM drivers might not like. That is rare but I know when using XFX's drivers over Nvidia's Direct Drivers I get 5-10 frames more per second.

Also make sure your drivers are up to date on everything.

Finally Defrag. Here at work I have seen office not load due to a hard disk being fragmented to hell. After Defragging, it loaded fine.
#16 Jan 22 2005 at 10:20 PM Rating: Decent
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BFG doesn'a make their own drivers, they use Nvidia official drivers for everything. I've tried over 5 different drivers, including the most new driver. It's still locking up, although not as much as it used to, it still does it ><
#17 Jan 22 2005 at 11:53 PM Rating: Good
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I would look into temperature problems or maybe memory next.
#18 Jan 23 2005 at 1:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Temps are just fine, and ram is just fine also. Maybe I should try going back to directx 8.1 and see if ffxi likes it better than 9.0c?
#20 Jan 25 2005 at 1:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I've uninstalled drivers and used programs like drivercleaner and stuff like that to completely remove all driver components, and then resumed to try further versions drivers. Still locks up on me =/

I've tried reinstalling windows, reintalling ffxi, taking out the video card itsell and reseating it, reseating the ram, different bios settings, everything. Maybe I should send the video card back.
#21 Jan 25 2005 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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Only thing I can think of left would be trying to swap in a different video card, switching out the ram, or removing the sound card, see which component is the troublesome one. It could still be the mobo too.

Have you tried playing any other games?


EDIT: also, at what point in the game/benchmark does the system freeze?

Edited, Tue Jan 25 13:43:21 2005 by highRfrequenC
#22 Feb 04 2005 at 12:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I RMAed my card and got a new one to see if the card had a problem. Got the new 5700 in on tuesday, put it in, and tried again. Still locks up... Either FFXI doesn't like the 5700 or there is something else in my system that is wrong. Anyone can help me out? ><

Sent an email to SE btw, see what they have to say.
#23 Feb 05 2005 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
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You guys think it could be a heat issue? Living in hawaii....it can get pretty warm inside and I think my CPU temp jumps to 52C~ or higher during the day. I think the lowest the CPU temp has been is 38C~ or so. >< I'm running out of ideas as to why it locks up my whole system, and it seems FFXI is the only game that does it now.
#24 Feb 05 2005 at 11:47 PM Rating: Decent
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it seems FFXI is the only game that does it now.

Perhaps a hint to get out now...while you can? Smiley: confused
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#25 Feb 06 2005 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok...I just rolled back to DirectX 9.0b and with v56.72 driver, and so far so good. But that means nothing, as it has run this long without freezing up. I will leave ffxi running while I sleep and see what it's doing in the morning. I hope it doesn't lock up again ><
#26 Feb 07 2005 at 12:22 AM Rating: Decent
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K that did nothing....

Can anyone help me out please? ; ;

This is so frustrating, It's been over a month now and I haven't been able to fix this...
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