I'm currently running KG7-Raid motherboard, AMD +1900 1.6GHZ processor, 1G of PC2100 ram(1 512 Kingston stick & 1 512 SuperTalent stick), and GeForece 5600 Ultra video card. My PC cant handle the benchmark 3. After a minute into the benchmark, I get boot back to my desktop w/ an error message.
So should I upgrade my computer to:
ASUS A8N-SLI motherboard, AMD +3500 2.2GHZ processor, 1G of Supertalent PC3200 ram, and a PCI-Express MSI NX6600 256MB video card or
ASUS P5GD2DX motherboard, P4 3.0GHZ processor, 1G of Supertalent PC4200 ram, and a PCI-Express MSI NX6600 256MB video card?
I've been having trouble with my PC since March. When I played FFXI, my PC keeps on shutting down and rebooting on me. So that's why I wanted to upgrade it. If someone knows why my PC is shutting down & rebooting, please help me out. Any advice or suggestion is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jar
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It's really hard to say what is wrong with your current machine.
Could be heat problems (sounds fairly likely), could be a faulty graphics card or any number of other things.
In short if you want to game with your PC you can't go past the Athlon 64 system you've spec'd there. I wouldn't bother with the NForce SLI chipset, it's a bit of a white elephant at the moment only if you're %90 sure about getting get a second card should you buy it. Make sure that MSI card can be SLI'd if that's your plan, their cards are expensive so maybe look at other brands too.
Oh and put a SATA hard drive in there please so you can get the most out of the system. Better yet get a drive with Native Command Queing (NCQ) such as the newer Seagate models.
Could be heat problems (sounds fairly likely), could be a faulty graphics card or any number of other things.
In short if you want to game with your PC you can't go past the Athlon 64 system you've spec'd there. I wouldn't bother with the NForce SLI chipset, it's a bit of a white elephant at the moment only if you're %90 sure about getting get a second card should you buy it. Make sure that MSI card can be SLI'd if that's your plan, their cards are expensive so maybe look at other brands too.
Oh and put a SATA hard drive in there please so you can get the most out of the system. Better yet get a drive with Native Command Queing (NCQ) such as the newer Seagate models.
Personally, I'd go with the Athlon version unless you can get yourself a decent amount of cooling. I have a P4 system and I couldn't. I have no idea how it will last the summer.
Plus, you should be able to SLI the athlon one;-)
Plus, you should be able to SLI the athlon one;-)
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I'm running XP Pro service 2 and got 2 40G maxtor hard drives - one for my OS and one i save FFXI on. Do I need a bigger hard drive for the game or 40G is good?
I'm getting tired of PS2 graphic. =P I gonna upgrade my PC some time this week so keep advice & suggestions coming. I truly appreciate it.
Edited, Tue May 31 15:11:42 2005 by jariksin
Edited, Tue May 31 15:15:30 2005 by jariksin
I'm getting tired of PS2 graphic. =P I gonna upgrade my PC some time this week so keep advice & suggestions coming. I truly appreciate it.
Edited, Tue May 31 15:11:42 2005 by jariksin
Edited, Tue May 31 15:15:30 2005 by jariksin
Graphics are tied to a lot on how the game will run - Currently, despite the "Nvidia slogan" that FFXI sports, the ATI cards run better. Could possibly be that since ATI is more familiar with the Direct X area, which the game rns on.
The new PC parts you've chosen sound fine - except the 6600, I'm not definate on that. Might want to try the radeon X700/X800 series and above if you want best fluidity and settings.
If your PC suddenly shuts down and reboots, this can be a sign that it's dying. Most of the time, the power supply is the culprit.
A lot of people just skimp over the power supply and use the one that came with the case - that's fine for not-the-top of the line PC's but over time these power supplies start failing like time. Manufacturers need to cut back on case costs to earn some money - so the power supply is what they skimp.
For the people wanting to get the higher end graphics cards today - mainly above the 9700pro / GeForce 6XXX + series, you need a decent power supply. Having a crap or power supply that came with your computer case, I'm sure that over 90% of the time cannot cut and handle the good graphics cards. Worse comes to worse, you could even physically fry your own pc parts if your power is inadequate, or eventually cause them to stop functioning.
A good way to know if your powersupply is good or not: Check the weight. Cheap, general powersupplies that come with PC Cases usually weight around the 1-3LB area. This is because they use cheaper conductors and other internal parts. You do not want something like this if you plan to use your system long term.
Ccheck newegg.com for brands such as Antec, Fortron (aka FSP), Enermax, Seasonic, OCZ are a few good ones to name. A good powersupply will generally be VERY heavy. For example, my Antec Truepower 2.0 430w weights almost 6lbs or heavier, while the 350w that came with the case weights around a measly 1-2lb. Having a heavy powersupply will never go wrong, because only the top quality companies use heavier / sturdier components.
Also check the readings on the Power supply label. You will see that the power is seperated into 3.3V, 5V, and 12V. You want to check the 12V section, atleast have 18A or higher PS if you want to run today's video cards (year of 2004 and up). I recommend atleast +25A on 12V for 9800pro and Geforce 6xxx systems.
Wattage on the PSU means almost nothing. An Antec 300W psu could beat a standard case 500w psu easily. What you really want to know is your voltage numbers.
Also, 40GB might be pushing it if you like to install a lot of things on your PC. The game takes 6-7GB of space itself, and Windows no doubt takes another 1-2GB, and Program files probably another 1-2GB depending your apps. Windows Paging file is going to take another 1-2GB chunk too, depending on how you configure it (higher for faster performance). That's nearly a quarter to a third of the total hard drive space.
I used to run on a 40GB as well, but I eventutally upgraded. It wasn't enough to hold the JP version of FFXI and NA version, and a few other games that I played. I was constantly struggling to maintain over 10GB of space, which was hard to do since I had to delete any game that I didnt play anymore, in order to make room for the next.
Solution for me was buying the Samsung SP1614N ( http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/SpinPointPSeries/HardDiskDrive_SpinPointPSeries_SP1614N.htm ) It's one of the most silent harddrives available. No high pitched Whirring, clicks, ETC.
Edited, Tue May 31 21:16:03 2005 by gaidensensei
The new PC parts you've chosen sound fine - except the 6600, I'm not definate on that. Might want to try the radeon X700/X800 series and above if you want best fluidity and settings.
If your PC suddenly shuts down and reboots, this can be a sign that it's dying. Most of the time, the power supply is the culprit.
A lot of people just skimp over the power supply and use the one that came with the case - that's fine for not-the-top of the line PC's but over time these power supplies start failing like time. Manufacturers need to cut back on case costs to earn some money - so the power supply is what they skimp.
For the people wanting to get the higher end graphics cards today - mainly above the 9700pro / GeForce 6XXX + series, you need a decent power supply. Having a crap or power supply that came with your computer case, I'm sure that over 90% of the time cannot cut and handle the good graphics cards. Worse comes to worse, you could even physically fry your own pc parts if your power is inadequate, or eventually cause them to stop functioning.
A good way to know if your powersupply is good or not: Check the weight. Cheap, general powersupplies that come with PC Cases usually weight around the 1-3LB area. This is because they use cheaper conductors and other internal parts. You do not want something like this if you plan to use your system long term.
Ccheck newegg.com for brands such as Antec, Fortron (aka FSP), Enermax, Seasonic, OCZ are a few good ones to name. A good powersupply will generally be VERY heavy. For example, my Antec Truepower 2.0 430w weights almost 6lbs or heavier, while the 350w that came with the case weights around a measly 1-2lb. Having a heavy powersupply will never go wrong, because only the top quality companies use heavier / sturdier components.
Also check the readings on the Power supply label. You will see that the power is seperated into 3.3V, 5V, and 12V. You want to check the 12V section, atleast have 18A or higher PS if you want to run today's video cards (year of 2004 and up). I recommend atleast +25A on 12V for 9800pro and Geforce 6xxx systems.
Wattage on the PSU means almost nothing. An Antec 300W psu could beat a standard case 500w psu easily. What you really want to know is your voltage numbers.
Also, 40GB might be pushing it if you like to install a lot of things on your PC. The game takes 6-7GB of space itself, and Windows no doubt takes another 1-2GB, and Program files probably another 1-2GB depending your apps. Windows Paging file is going to take another 1-2GB chunk too, depending on how you configure it (higher for faster performance). That's nearly a quarter to a third of the total hard drive space.
I used to run on a 40GB as well, but I eventutally upgraded. It wasn't enough to hold the JP version of FFXI and NA version, and a few other games that I played. I was constantly struggling to maintain over 10GB of space, which was hard to do since I had to delete any game that I didnt play anymore, in order to make room for the next.
Solution for me was buying the Samsung SP1614N ( http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDrive/SpinPointPSeries/HardDiskDrive_SpinPointPSeries_SP1614N.htm ) It's one of the most silent harddrives available. No high pitched Whirring, clicks, ETC.
Edited, Tue May 31 21:16:03 2005 by gaidensensei
Of all 15+ hard drives I have at home from the past 15 years, from the 200MB one to the 200GB I am using now, I can't say any of them have been loud. No high pitched whirring and whatnot. Don't concern yourself with the hard drive. Also, the current 40GB one you have should work fine.
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Don't concern yourself with the hard drive
Do worry about the hard drive please.
The bottle neck in your new system will be the throughput on your hard disk if you keep all your old drives. The best way to alleviate this is to get a SATA drive for your new setup. New boards (NForce4 for AMD)support NCQ so make sure you get a drive that supports it. This will make a difference in hard drive access times, more and more software will support it in the future and it's a big step forward.
Why NCQ is good
Keeping you old drives is like buying a new Porsche and fitting it with a feul line that only delivers 80% of the petrol the car needs to reach it's full potential. For the love of god at least get a shiny new SATA Hard disk drive.
Edited, Thu Jun 2 04:46:40 2005 by blowfin
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