My wife wants to start using the computer so I've gotten the go-ahead to build myself a new one so we aren't fighting over it.
I found this processor. I was told that Dual-Core was the way to go but I'm not sure.
Could someone recommend a processor/motherboard combination that would cost me somewhere around $400-$500 or less? Hopefully ATX, as they have a nice case on newegg that I wanted to get.
Edit: I wanted to go AMD if possible.
Edited, Mon Aug 22 11:42:48 2005 by Wintaru
Edited, Mon Aug 22 11:58:43 2005 by Wintaru
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That's a lot of money spent for a CPU/Motherboard combo...
Just go here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufactory=&PropertyCodeValue=709%3A7495&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=757%3A7618&description=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&SubCategory=22&Submit=Property
Theres a lot of them. It's one thing if you said to go as cheap as possible and as good as possible at same time, but if you want just any, I can reccomend ASUS, DFI, and GIGABYTE boards...
A lot of them are the same. It also depends on what you intend to use the computer for...Gaming? 3D graphics and suchage development?
Also, do you want it to be a PCI-Express board or an AGP board? So many things you haven't specified.
Just go here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Manufactory=&PropertyCodeValue=709%3A7495&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=0&PropertyCodeValue=757%3A7618&description=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&SubCategory=22&Submit=Property
Theres a lot of them. It's one thing if you said to go as cheap as possible and as good as possible at same time, but if you want just any, I can reccomend ASUS, DFI, and GIGABYTE boards...
A lot of them are the same. It also depends on what you intend to use the computer for...Gaming? 3D graphics and suchage development?
Also, do you want it to be a PCI-Express board or an AGP board? So many things you haven't specified.
Sorry Bagira, my original post had a lot more info than this, I had to keep modifying it and didn't see that some stuff was missing.
I currently have an ATI Radeon 9800 pro that I want to use for the new system so it would have to be AGP.
The most taxing program I want the system to be able to run is FFXI. I have 2 512 sticks of SDRAM that I plan on putting in it. I would like to have something that would run FFXI pretty smoothly, I would expect some lag in Lower Jueno but with my current system I can't manage more than 15-20fps during battle, I have to turn away from the mob so I can heal without lagging. I'm told my RAM and FX card are sufficent, the only real bottleneck left is the processor so I want something new and spiffy.
Edit: I don't think "intensive" is a word
Edited, Mon Aug 22 17:36:04 2005 by Wintaru
I currently have an ATI Radeon 9800 pro that I want to use for the new system so it would have to be AGP.
The most taxing program I want the system to be able to run is FFXI. I have 2 512 sticks of SDRAM that I plan on putting in it. I would like to have something that would run FFXI pretty smoothly, I would expect some lag in Lower Jueno but with my current system I can't manage more than 15-20fps during battle, I have to turn away from the mob so I can heal without lagging. I'm told my RAM and FX card are sufficent, the only real bottleneck left is the processor so I want something new and spiffy.
Edit: I don't think "intensive" is a word
Edited, Mon Aug 22 17:36:04 2005 by Wintaru
Which SDRAM do you have? DDR 400MHz or what? PC3200?
Btw, I also use the 9800Pro. It works wonders. Except of course in Lower Jueno AH.
Btw, I also use the 9800Pro. It works wonders. Except of course in Lower Jueno AH.
Bah, I knew you were going to ask that >.<
DDR 400 I believe, I'll have to go home and check to make sure. Or hang on...I think I posted my system specs in another thread, one momentaru...
Edit: Found it, PC3200 DDR SDRAM is what I posted in another thread.
Edited, Mon Aug 22 17:39:24 2005 by Wintaru
DDR 400 I believe, I'll have to go home and check to make sure. Or hang on...I think I posted my system specs in another thread, one momentaru...
Edit: Found it, PC3200 DDR SDRAM is what I posted in another thread.
Edited, Mon Aug 22 17:39:24 2005 by Wintaru
Oh...then just search what you want in the linky...Pick out a nice ASUS, DFI, or GIGABYTE board.
It all depends on what extras you want, such as the DFI LanParty has two built-in NICs which both support Gigabit ethernet...
Just make sure that the motherboard has an AGP 8x and not NOT AGP Express...
It all depends on what extras you want, such as the DFI LanParty has two built-in NICs which both support Gigabit ethernet...
Just make sure that the motherboard has an AGP 8x and not NOT AGP Express...
Here's what I'm thinking:
Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130468
The FX card will be my Radeon 9800 pro and it will have 1gb of PC3200 Ram. I'll probably salvage an old HDD since my wife will be using the other one for all of the storage and such and this beast will only need to run FFXI and the internet.
I like MSI, I have an MSI K7N2 Delta 2 in my current machine and I like how easy it was to install and configure.
Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103539
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130468
The FX card will be my Radeon 9800 pro and it will have 1gb of PC3200 Ram. I'll probably salvage an old HDD since my wife will be using the other one for all of the storage and such and this beast will only need to run FFXI and the internet.
I like MSI, I have an MSI K7N2 Delta 2 in my current machine and I like how easy it was to install and configure.
That should work well.
Hmm, that link to the board is defunct, anything with an NForce 3 chipset and socket 939 should be good.
Contrary to what Bagira says I really don't like Gigabyte mainboards, I've returned far too many of them in the past to be able to recommend them. Same goes with MSI, and when their boards have problems they really do suck. **** like hard drives being destroyed by dodgy SATA controllers and boards incapable of playing nicely with dial up modems.
Asus, Epox and even Foxconn (for the budget minded) have all been pretty reliable.
EDIT: Dual core is probably not very neccesary at the moment, but it would work a treat with the windower. =)
Edited, Thu Sep 1 22:30:00 2005 by blowfin
Contrary to what Bagira says I really don't like Gigabyte mainboards, I've returned far too many of them in the past to be able to recommend them. Same goes with MSI, and when their boards have problems they really do suck. **** like hard drives being destroyed by dodgy SATA controllers and boards incapable of playing nicely with dial up modems.
Asus, Epox and even Foxconn (for the budget minded) have all been pretty reliable.
EDIT: Dual core is probably not very neccesary at the moment, but it would work a treat with the windower. =)
Edited, Thu Sep 1 22:30:00 2005 by blowfin
The mainboard I was linking was the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard.
I haven't gotten it yet, damn house payment but hopefully later this month. I have a feeling that you could find horror stories for any motherboard manufacturer but we'll see. So far my experiance with MSI has been good.
I haven't gotten it yet, damn house payment but hopefully later this month. I have a feeling that you could find horror stories for any motherboard manufacturer but we'll see. So far my experiance with MSI has been good.
Keep in mind that's a PCI Express mainboard and if you're wanting to use your old AGP card it won't fit into that board. Hence the NForce 3 socket 939 recommendation.
NForce 4 is PCI-Express all the way.
Yeah, there's not a brand of board that we've used which hasn't had at least one return. I don't get bothered by the occasional power issue or the occasional board that doesn't POST but when something starts destroying dozens of hard drives I put the brand right to the back of my list of components to buy. It was a Via chipset too, that probably had a lot to do with it.
Edited, Sat Sep 3 03:37:55 2005 by blowfin
NForce 4 is PCI-Express all the way.
Quote:
I have a feeling that you could find horror stories for any motherboard manufacturer but we'll see. So far my experiance with MSI has been good.
Yeah, there's not a brand of board that we've used which hasn't had at least one return. I don't get bothered by the occasional power issue or the occasional board that doesn't POST but when something starts destroying dozens of hard drives I put the brand right to the back of my list of components to buy. It was a Via chipset too, that probably had a lot to do with it.
Edited, Sat Sep 3 03:37:55 2005 by blowfin
I'll keep that in mind.
Maybe I'll look for something by Asus instead.
Maybe I'll look for something by Asus instead.
Just in case anyone was wondering, I ordered this today:
ASUS A8V ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor
Should have it in a couple of days and am looking forward to it. Rate ups for everyone, why isn't Blowfin a scholar yet? After all the help I see him give too
ASUS A8V ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor
Should have it in a couple of days and am looking forward to it. Rate ups for everyone, why isn't Blowfin a scholar yet? After all the help I see him give too
Because after one gets ~200 posts, it becomes VERY VERY hard to change ratings...
Harder to change for the better and not as hard, but still difficult, to change the rating to badage...
He's currently at 2.89 which is a tad bettaru than what he had a few months ago...
That's one thing that I dislike about the karma system here. If you start out ******, your rating will be ****** too for a long time unless you start improving it before you get to ~40 posts.
Which is why I can't really expect to get to Sage unless I post a few guides where people will keep hitting me with Excellent ratings...
Which is why some people make a new account and start out by doing a guide, thereby having their ratings skyrocket.
You of all people should know, Wintaru since you have a coveted 3.65/6 rating and 3 stars...You should know how hard it is to change ratings. Try changing AngstyCoder's rating...it would take the whole community rating him down for a bit of time to make his rating drop...or Lefein...or other people with over 10K posts...
And unfortunately the vast majoritaru of people give more rate-downs than rate-ups...
It's a vicious circle.
Harder to change for the better and not as hard, but still difficult, to change the rating to badage...
He's currently at 2.89 which is a tad bettaru than what he had a few months ago...
That's one thing that I dislike about the karma system here. If you start out ******, your rating will be ****** too for a long time unless you start improving it before you get to ~40 posts.
Which is why I can't really expect to get to Sage unless I post a few guides where people will keep hitting me with Excellent ratings...
Which is why some people make a new account and start out by doing a guide, thereby having their ratings skyrocket.
You of all people should know, Wintaru since you have a coveted 3.65/6 rating and 3 stars...You should know how hard it is to change ratings. Try changing AngstyCoder's rating...it would take the whole community rating him down for a bit of time to make his rating drop...or Lefein...or other people with over 10K posts...
And unfortunately the vast majoritaru of people give more rate-downs than rate-ups...
It's a vicious circle.
Actually Bagira, someone took the time to camp me a while back and managed to bring me back down to Sage for a while. The camper was told to stop and some of the others at the forum I frequent took it upon themselves to keep rating me back up until I was sage again :D
Karma is not hard to move. One other poster and I moved no less than 6 people from scholar to sage last week, some with over 3000 posts, some all the way from 3.05 to 3.67.
Go down the Tech Support forum and open every thread and rate up blowfin. He'll be scholar in 20 minutes tops.
I would, but I already did.
Go down the Tech Support forum and open every thread and rate up blowfin. He'll be scholar in 20 minutes tops.
I would, but I already did.
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