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#1 Feb 22 2007 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Wonderin if you have thoughts as to what is causing this.

I play on a laptop, and when in Whiotegate, I continually get stuck in a 3 second loop of music, NPCs will take, literally, 2-5 minutes to load, if I get stuck in this loop. I run around w/o moving legs, just a standing figure.
Also, when Im in Firefox, like typing this, the PC itself lags out and I just typed the last two senteces w/ no text appearing, then I heard 3 /tell Chimes in the background all ring off at once, and the music un-loop itself. They were old /tells, too.
Bah, its stuck back in the loop. (///.x)


Also, in Wajoam Woodlands, and Bhaflau, I run like sh*t, around 3-4 FPS, which makes aything impossible.


Ive run all sorts of PCcare stuff, I am assuming its the video card but wanted other opinions.

Laptop:
HP AMD Turion 2.2
1gig ram
100gig HD
etc etc

FFS Its pisses me off omfg
@#%^IIm going to @#%^ing throw this thing out the mother@#%^ing window if i @#%^ing hear that 3 second loop again.
Also AH sales, Bazaars, etc show price, but no description or pics, etc.

@#%^

you cannot even understand how much this frustrates me -.-

anyways, i was trying to find my vid card info
hmm

where the hell do i even check that

its ATI something


think i found it

ATI readeon express 200m

sounds ******

help me out?



Edited, Feb 22nd 2007 7:35pm by FlixEffect
#2 Feb 22 2007 at 7:39 PM Rating: Decent
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and i already have shadows/ weather/ footsteps off...

cable connection, etc
#3 Feb 22 2007 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
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this is off topic but how do you make it ring when you get a tell?
#4 Feb 22 2007 at 7:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Config > Chat > Tell > Hit it tell it shows a musical note.
#5 Feb 22 2007 at 8:07 PM Rating: Decent
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lol


Im now inside the whitegate AH


it wasnt loaded when I got to it, first time for the AH itself, and i ran to the corner of its inset

its now laoded and im on the inside looking out lol

wonder if i can get some gil >_>
#6 Feb 22 2007 at 11:48 PM Rating: Good
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Since this happens in firefox also, I think it might be something other than your graphics.

Try bringing up the ctrl+alt+del menu, click the processes tab and see if anything is running at 100% most of the time. Svchost.exe has a history of being responsible for that, and it is possible to have multiple instances of svchost.exe running at once (I have 8 running right now myself).

Two possible solutions to this, one is that it is some sort of spyware. Go to [link=]http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/library/windir.svchost/index.phtml[/link] to see how to remove it.

If you are sure it is not spyware, then try this:
Go to run and type in msconfig Check your startup tab and your services tab (I reccomend to hide microsoft services especially if your not sure what is what) to see if there is anything in there you do not want loading with Windows. If so, uncheck them and restart pc.
If you unchecked something and notice a program is not working because of that ( AVG for example doesn't like it when you uncheck it) simply go back in recheck it and restart pc again.

Hopefully one of these will help ya.
#7 Feb 23 2007 at 3:53 AM Rating: Good
Actually don't bother with just one thing, do this:

Open up system config (Start -> Run -> msconfig), select Selective Start-up, remove the check from Load Start-up Items, then go to the Services tab, hide all Microsoft services, Disable all (which will only disable the remaining services). Restart the computer.

Try it after this. If you're still lagging, try not using Windower. Windower's overhead greatly increased in the past few versions. My computer, with start-up stuff running, cannot run it smoothly. Granted, more RAM would fix that, but I don't like the direct Cliff's dev went once they created add-ons >.>

If it happens without Windower running, then search for Driver Cleaner online. Download drivers that work for your system, uninstall your current ones and follow the instructions in the DC read me.

If none of that works, call your comp manufacturer, you could be having RAM/Heat issues with your system. You also might need added RAM because the system is paging too much when hit with massive amounts of data. However, just make sure there's nothing hardware wrong with them before you start buying stuff.

Oh and you can see your video card by going to either the POL config and clicking System Information, or going to Start -> Control Panels -> System (Or Performance and Maintenance then system). Click the hardware tab, then device manager, then display adapter.

Oh and SVCHost is NOT responsible for PC slowdown. SVCHost is a generic process manager inside windows that any application can access to run their program as a service.

Edited, Feb 23rd 2007 6:55am by ArnOSG
#8 Feb 23 2007 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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Sorry Arn, but you are wrong.
Svchost.exe can indeed run the processor at 100% so can services.exe. Not only have I personally had this problem but I have fixed a few other computers with the same issue.
Take a look at this site and you will see there are many people who have also had this problem.
  • http://www.anti-spy.info/file/svchost.exe.html

  • Svchost.exe is most likely a virus if it is not in your winodows/system32 folder.

    Security task manager is a handy tool to see exactly what processess are what and where they are stored. Here is a link to a 30 day trial from download.com
  • http://www.download.com/Security-Task-Manager/3000-2094_4-10594838.html?tag=lst-0-1



  • Good luck with your laptop Flix, and let us know if things work out.
    #9 Feb 23 2007 at 10:01 AM Rating: Good
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    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314056

    Please do not just search google and post a random link without really knowing what you're talking about. Yes it can run at 100% but it in of itself is NOT responcible.

    It's called the Generic Host Process for a reason. It's a default Windows function that any application can run a service through. Most commonly it runs DLL and other such files with it. Refer to the MS KB to educate yourself on it.

    In fact MSI.DLL runs through it if you run Windows updates. AND if your Windows update utility becomes corrupt, it's the MSI.DLL that's causing the proc usage, NOT SVCHost...

    And ANY executable named for a Windows component outside Sys32 can be a virus. However, the previous post you made stated that the program svchost can peg your usage to 100%.... However it's not that app running the script, it's only acting as the carrier.

    Edited, Feb 23rd 2007 1:03pm by Pawkeshup
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    #10 Feb 23 2007 at 11:34 PM Rating: Good
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    Thanks

    I'll try these tomorrow when i get off work.

    Sleep now (///.x)
    #11 Feb 24 2007 at 12:47 AM Rating: Good
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    OK, the fact of the matter is this. When you press ctrl+alt+del and bring up your running processes it is a process labled svchost.exe that is running at 100% cpu utilization not msi.dll. So when I suggested to Flix to check for this I wasn't concerned if he knew all the details of what it does or what uses it. All he needed to know is if it was in fact a process labled svchost.exe that was causing his slowdown.
    Flix obviously is not a computer expert or he wouldn't be asking for our help on here, so I tried to simplify things for him without going into too much techie detail.

    I never once said that it was Microsofts svchost.exe that was the cause of the problem. I simply said that a process named svchost.exe is capable of taking 100% of the cpu cycle, has a history of doing it, and I suggested he check it out.

    The first link I posted states right in it that the svchost.exe in the system32 folder is a windows file (it even says to not delete it even if it is in the windows directory unless you are absolutely sure it is a threat).
    Quote:
    The legitimate svchost.exe file is located in %SystemDir%. You might want to analyse %WinDir%\svchost.exe to verify it is something that you really want on your system. Do not delete %WinDir%\svchost.exe unless you are 100% sure it is a threats.

    That same site also details the steps to remove an infected svchost.exe that is not in the system32 folder. I didn't go into much detail about this in my post simply because the info would have been redundant and I felt they did a good job on describing what to do on their website.

    Also, here is the 2nd solution I mentioned but neglected to put in my original post (just realized it now lol). It is a fix from Microsoft pertaining to the 100% svchost.exe usage that is caused by their msi.dll file used by the Microsoft Updater.
  • http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q927891

  • Not that it matters to you, but I do have a good amount of knowledge in the IT field, I didn't just "google it" as had been suggested. I have been going to MSB for over 1.5 years and I have maintained a GPA of over 3.95 so far.


    Again, good luck with getting your computer fixed Flix and let us know if any of this has helped or if you have different problems that arise.
    #12 Feb 24 2007 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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    Theanrkist wrote:
    OK, the fact of the matter is this. When you press ctrl+alt+del and bring up your running processes it is a process labled svchost.exe that is running at 100% cpu utilization not msi.dll.


    No, it is not svchost.exe taking 100% utilization, it is msi.dll's script/procedural code that is doing it. Does windows show it taking 100%? Yes. Is it at fault? No.

    svchost is a GENERIC process.

    The reason I say this is that, for clarity's sake, having someone potentially damage or remove the Windows process can cause a LOT of issues. Searches on Google for issues with svchost can be tricky for a user not familiar with the OS.

    So, again, please refrain from stating something that is factually incorrect.
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    #13 Feb 25 2007 at 6:33 PM Rating: Decent
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    I'm pretty sure you can run XP without any services at all... Infact I have done it before. I belive a year or so ago there was a artical on slashdot on how to do it. It works. Doesn't really do much till you get some network services and such running but was discovered that most XP processes for everyday users... are worthless.

    Edited, Feb 25th 2007 9:34pm by Ragtime
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