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#1 Dec 04 2010 at 9:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Do you consider sensual/sexual dancing at the club cheating? I've been out lately and have seen numerous married people out in the club bumping and grinding and always thought what their spouse would think if they saw them. I'm old fashioned in the sense that if I'm in any committed relationship then I wont do anything that she might consider cheating if she were there.

So do you consider that "cheating" and/or disrespectful or just innocent fun?
#2 Dec 04 2010 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
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I personally wouldn't be dancing like that with anyone other than my partner, but some people are alright with it. I don't think I would consider it "cheating," though. Plenty of guys are alright about going to the strip club and getting a lapdance regardless of their relationship status. This isn't really any worse than that.
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ITT: My friends wife is cheating on him, with me.

He hates dancing, she doesn't. It's not like either of us get aroused when we grind.
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#4 Dec 04 2010 at 10:32 AM Rating: Good
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Spoonless the Silent wrote:
I personally wouldn't be dancing like that with anyone other than my partner, but some people are alright with it. I don't think I would consider it "cheating," though. Plenty of guys are alright about going to the strip club and getting a lapdance regardless of their relationship status. This isn't really any worse than that.


Pretty much this. I personally have no desire to do any of that stuff, but I don't see anything particularly wrong with it (although if they feel the need to keep it a secret, that might be a different story).
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#5 Dec 04 2010 at 10:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd get mad.

I stay away from the club scene these days, but when I did frequent them I saw a lot of this and never understood why significant others didn't get mad. Someone can say there's nothing sexual about it, but odds are unless one of them is gay there's some sexual tension. I've heard the "it's just dancing" ******** so many times and yet I've seen/heard the ones that say this cheating on their partners (sometimes with who they were dancing with).

If I'm grinding all over some chick I'm hoping to take them home and I assume the same of others.

My opinion might be a little off though as this is MS and we don't have nice dance clubs around here. It's just grinding. Everyone is all over everyone.
#6 Dec 04 2010 at 11:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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My blanket rule for "is it cheating?": If you wouldn't do it in front of your partner, you shouldn't be doing it.

If your partner is cool with you grinding in dance clubs or sending explicit text messages to friends or getting blowjobs in bathrooms or whatever then go crazy. If you need to hide it from them, that's what they call a "warning sign" that maybe you shouldn't be doing it. Everyone's boundaries are different.
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#7 Dec 04 2010 at 2:10 PM Rating: Good
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If you have to ask whether it is cheating or not, it probably is.

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if I'm ever eventually in any committed relationship then I wont do anything that she might consider cheating if she were there.
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#8 Dec 04 2010 at 2:10 PM Rating: Default
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Dyadem wrote:
ITT: My friends wife is cheating on him, with me.

He hates dancing, she doesn't. It's not like either of us get aroused when we grind.


I didn't think it was possible to grind and not be aroused...
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Spoonless the Silent wrote:
I personally wouldn't be dancing like that with anyone other than my partner, but some people are alright with it. I don't think I would consider it "cheating," though. Plenty of guys are alright about going to the strip club and getting a lapdance regardless of their relationship status. This isn't really any worse than that.
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#10 Dec 04 2010 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, I'd be pretty pissed if my husband did that, and I certainly wouldn't do it with anyone other than him. Also, lap dances are a no-no in my opinion.
#11 Dec 04 2010 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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Dyadem wrote:
ITT: My friends wife is cheating on him, with me.

He hates dancing, she doesn't. It's not like either of us get aroused when we grind.


And Dyadem offers the loophole.

******* bumping/groping with their gay buddies is part of the job.
#12 Dec 04 2010 at 4:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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I had a great relationship with my long term now-ex. He had a lot of male friends we both liked to hang out with, and we just fell into this system whereby when my partner was THERE I'd be more flirty with his friends if that was the common mood, and when he WASN'T there I'd be more restrained and circumspect. We trained our friends into knowing they could have a little fun and closeness with me, but it definitely wasn't going to go anywhere, and there was just no point making the slightest move on me when my partner wasn't there.

The group was very emotionally close, so when the emotional undercurrents became more overt they'd come out a little physically. Looking back, in a weird way my male partner kind of expressed affection to his hetero male friends by loaning me out for fairly innocent cuddles and massages, and not-quite-as-innocent playing with each other's fingers and toes on the living room couch or floor. Early on my partner tried massaging one of his close male friends one day when he was stressed, and that didn't go down too well. Country background people just didn't like male-on-male touching. So massage duties for overworked or stressed friends fell to me.

When my partner WASN'T there, I'd be way more circumspect, and restrict myself and our male friends to talking, no touchie touchie at all.

So: partner there, I'd spoon on couches, give and receive massages and flirt with his friends.
Partner not there, no touching, the very very lightest of verbal flirts if it came up, usually more serious conversations.

None of that group were big dancers, so I usually went out dancing alone or with gay friends. I've always been happy to dance sensuously just to myself. If I had my gay friends in a club, I'd link pelvises on the dance floor with them for some songs. But that never worked out with straight males friends, they were just no good at synchronising hip movements. Probably because they felt self-conscious about it.

The one time my partner came out with me to a dance club with his straight friends none of them got up and danced. They drank beer and watched the floor. My partner reported later one of them said: "She's put on a lot of weight since you started going out. But look at her. She could have any man in the room."

Basically my partner, while loving my mind, I think in hindsight got a kick out of his friends liking or admiring his girlfriend. He was secure that I'd stick to our arrangement of "no other men", so he didn't mind what I guess amounted to "showing me off", and what was a very very mild, subtexted form of polyamoury.
#13 Dec 04 2010 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
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To preface this: I don't dance, but my wife does. However, she doesn't do the grind style dancing.

Now, if she would be, I'm not sure how I'd feel if she were grinding up some guy. I don't think I would be jealous, simply because I know my wife would never cheat on me. She is not the type, and if she did, she's horrible at lying so she'd never get away with it.

If I was grinding some girl... well, I'd best start running and don't stop till there was an ocean between us LOL!

As was said already: People have different limits, so you have to be aware of what your partner wants and expects of you.
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#14 Dec 04 2010 at 5:16 PM Rating: Default
It can be pretty difficult to separate our ego's from the equation when it comes to seeing our significant other making sensual contact with someone else.

All situations vary, but here are some good questions you can ask yourself when in a relationship and something of this nature comes up:

Am I a jealous person?
-If so, fist thing you need to do is look at the big picture. If you have a problem with one partner when it comes to jealousy, then you will only continue to have this problem with every relationship you have.


Does my partner regularly engage with other people in a sexual manner, even if sex is not involved?
-Then you might need to re-examine your relationship. Maybe your partner is looking for a new relationship but is too afraid to leave or feels that such behavior is normal and acceptable.

Do you and your partner still connect physically like you did when you first started dating?
-If not, this isn't necessarily a huge problem. Maybe your partner is devoted to you in every way but is feeling that something is lacking sensually. This is completely normal and here, like with all issues, communication and acceptable compromise is key.


At all times when approaching a situation such as this it is vital to be able to separate your "neurotic" ego (jealousy, anxiety, fear, hate) from your "functional" ego (motivation, compassion, love, respect, etc.)
#15 Dec 04 2010 at 5:44 PM Rating: Good
My girlfriends and I solve this issue by dancing together when out without our husbands. Of course, we are olde too (well some of us more so than others lol).

The hubby and I just had a different, but similar conversation last night as some of his team wants to plan happy hour at a strip club. I didn't like it at first and then thought, he is telling me about it and won't go if I care, and then I realized I didn't care. Most of his team won't tell their wives. If it is something you won't tell you partner, then you shouldn't do it.
#16 Dec 04 2010 at 5:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Do you consider sensual/sexual dancing at the club cheating? I've been out lately and have seen numerous married people out in the club bumping and grinding and always thought what their spouse would think if they saw them. I'm old fashioned in the sense that if I'm in any committed relationship then I wont do anything that she might consider cheating if she were there.

So do you consider that "cheating" and/or disrespectful or just innocent fun?


It's not cheating so long as that ***** has his money at the end of the night.

Other wise though, yeah, it's wrong.
#17 Dec 04 2010 at 5:54 PM Rating: Decent
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If your partner is fine with it, and you are fine with it, then I see no reason not to. Asking may not be such a smart idea though...
#18 Dec 04 2010 at 5:59 PM Rating: Good
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I'd be pretty angry is my fiancee was out dancing up on some guy as I know she would be angry at me if some girl was dancing up on me. There is probably some sort of physical attraction to the other person if you are dancing up on them.
#19 Dec 04 2010 at 6:14 PM Rating: Default
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Allegory wrote:
If your partner is fine with it, and you are fine with it, then I see no reason not to. Asking may not be such a smart idea though...


That depends on how you ask. If you say " hey babe/honey/etc. Can I dance with her?" The no response would be ugly and the yes answer would be a "no" answer in disguise where you have to be smart enough to know by "yes" she means "no" which puts you in the first scenario. Lol

The best way to ask is in general of what is and isn't acceptable. If you really know the person, you should already know the answer, but its safe to determine boundaries. This is because those types of things will generally change as closer you two become and at that point you have a reference point to use in your defense if there's a fight.
#20 Dec 04 2010 at 6:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I meant that remark about asking to be half-humorous.
#21 Dec 04 2010 at 6:47 PM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:

The best way to ask is in general of what is and isn't acceptable.
Preferably in questionnaire format.
#22 Dec 04 2010 at 6:53 PM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:

The best way to ask is in general of what is and isn't acceptable.
Preferably in questionnaire format.


Olde married people do that to spice things up. Know your safe word.
#23 Dec 04 2010 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Allegory wrote:
I meant that remark about asking to be half-humorous.


I know, that's why my response was meant to be taken as "half-humorous" as well.
#24 Dec 04 2010 at 9:05 PM Rating: Decent
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I wouldn't appreciate it in the slightest. Then again if I were dating or married to someone like that I should probably get my head checked and wonder where I went wrong.
#25 Dec 04 2010 at 11:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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I hate dancing, my wife on the other hand loves to dance, She goes out with her cousins and a couple friends to clubs sometimes and it doesn't bother me at all. She can get dirty while dancing sometimes but usually doesn't dance with guys. About the only way I would get pissed and step in is if she was uncomfortable and pushing someone away, anything beyond that is gravy. Besides while she is out dancing I can check out the hot redhead dancing near her while I sit at the bar.
#26 Dec 05 2010 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
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My husband and I haven't been dancing in years. But when we were still dating we used to go out with a fairly large group of people about once a month. Both of us would dance with other people and touching and grinding was involved. Of course, we danced with each other this way too. It doesn't bother me because I know he's going home with me. He also tells me who he'd like to boink (not just celebrities) and I do the same. It's a little game we play.
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