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#1 Dec 14 2011 at 11:26 AM Rating: Good
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http://www.suntimes.com/business/9422621-420/fcc-adopts-ban-on-tv-ads-that-are-louder-than-shows.html

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Those ultra-loud TV commercials will soon be a thing of the past.

The Federal Communications Commission announced Tuesday it has adopted regulations requiring broadcasters and cable and satellite TV systems to maintain constant volume levels. The order, which goes into effect in one year, “says commercials must have the same average volume as the programs they accompany,” says FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski.

Last year, President Obama signed into law a measure that Congress passed giving the FCC authority to address the problem. A Harris poll taken around that time found that 86 percent of people surveyed said TV commercials were louder than the shows themselves -- and, in many cases, much louder. “It is a problem that thousands of viewers have complained about, and we are doing something about it,” Genachowski says.

While normal listening levels average about 70 decibels for a typical TV broadcast -- 60 is equivalent to a restaurant conversation; 80 to a garbage disposal -- levels on a TV channel can vary by as much as 20 decibels.

To comply with the new law, broadcasters can use audio processors to measure the loudness of a program over its entirety and adjust the volume of commercials accordingly, says Joe Snelson, vice president of the Society of Broadcast Engineers. He said the goal is to avoid an abrupt change in volume when a show goes to commercial break.

Some broadcasters and pay-TV providers already have begun implementing the Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation Act (CALM). DirecTV spokesman Robert Mercer says the satellite provider is “ensuring that our commercial inserts are at the proper volume level and ... (we) are working with our programmers to be in compliance with the rules the FCC adopts.”

Similarly, Cox Communications plans to make sure that local ads and commercials on national networks “are compliant,” says Cox spokesman Todd Smith.

“Slowly but surely, consumers are going to get something they have been wanting,” says David Butler of the Consumers Union.

“I never characterized this as saving the Union,” says Rep. Anna Eshoo, D-Calif., the original sponsor of the bill. “But consumers have been asking for it. We may not have peace in the world, but we may have more peaceful homes.”


I don't know how or when it got started, but when my wife and stepdaughter are both watching TV in two different rooms and those commercials come it makes for a pretty wicked headache. I always thought of the increased volume for commercials was like being screamed at... as if people weren't buying of enough of their product or service and they were so desperate for attention that they had to resort to this.

Edited, Dec 15th 2011 10:38pm by Kuwoobie
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#2 Dec 14 2011 at 11:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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There's nothing more annoying than having to keep adjusting the volume every ten minutes.
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#3 Dec 14 2011 at 11:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ah, always noticed that on FX and TBS. Good to see it's being dealt with. Very annoying.
#4 Dec 14 2011 at 11:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Regulations like this are leading to the erosion of your liberties.
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#5 Dec 14 2011 at 11:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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It negatively affects the liberal mainstream media, and we're okay with eroding their liberties.
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#6 Dec 14 2011 at 11:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hey, whatever. If you want to throw your liberties out the window in order to not have to use the dim/mute button on your remote, go for it. They're not my liberties being eroded.
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#7 Dec 14 2011 at 12:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Does this count on the internet, too?

Because the difference in volume on Comedy Central sites is ANNOOYYIINNGG!
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#8 Dec 14 2011 at 12:24 PM Rating: Good
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
Regulations like this are leading to the erosion of your liberties.


Not sure if serious...
#9 Dec 14 2011 at 12:32 PM Rating: Excellent
ArexLovesPie wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Regulations like this are leading to the erosion of your liberties.


Not sure if serious...


It's called troll bait. Ugly's a huge fan.
#10 Dec 14 2011 at 12:44 PM Rating: Good
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BrownDuck wrote:
ArexLovesPie wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Regulations like this are leading to the erosion of your liberties.


Not sure if serious...


It's called troll bait. Ugly's a huge fan.


Anyone willing to take this as bait has to be crippled mentally. Lucky for us there are a few of them around.
#11 Dec 14 2011 at 12:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Friar Bijou wrote:
Does this count on the internet, too?

Because the difference in volume on Comedy Central sites is ANNOOYYIINNGG!

I wonder this as well. My first reaction to the article was "Great!" followed by my second, which was "I haven't watched an actual TV show in about half a year. This won't help me at all; everything I watch is online."
#12 Dec 14 2011 at 12:53 PM Rating: Excellent
I rated it up anyway cuz it made me grin.
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ArexLovesPie wrote:
BrownDuck wrote:
ArexLovesPie wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
Regulations like this are leading to the erosion of your liberties.


Not sure if serious...


It's called troll bait. Ugly's a huge fan.


Anyone willing to take this as bait has to be crippled mentally. Lucky for us there are a few of them around.
There's always a couple and they'll respond before reading far enough down this thread to see that that's what I'm doing.
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#14 Dec 14 2011 at 5:02 PM Rating: Good
Nothing more annoying than having some stupid add blasting over your speakers. Thank Goddess they did something about it.
#15 Dec 14 2011 at 7:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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It says 'average' so couldn't they play the first half very loud, then very quite on the second half (like they usually do, hide all the fine print speak in fast, low volume, talk)? So if the show averages 70dB, then the first half of the commercial could be 80, and the second half 60. I've even seen many commercials that vary every few lines, some really loud "important" crap and some quite (usually real) crap.

I also think it's wrong for them to purposefully distort the fine print on TV ads so you can't read them even if you tried. I've noticed numerous commercials where it looks like the fine print is duplicated, with the second time being shifted slightly in one direction to distort it enough to make it a pain to read. At first I thought it was just crappy quality commercial, but as I saw the same commercial over and over, I looked more closely. You could clearly see it was purposefully done to distort it to the point where you couldn't read it.

Edited, Dec 14th 2011 8:33pm by TirithRR
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I also think it's wrong for them to purposefully distort the fine print on TV ads so you can't read them even if you tried. I've noticed numerous commercials where it looks like the fine print is duplicated, with the second time being shifted slightly in one direction to distort it enough to make it a pain to read. At first I thought it was just crappy quality commercial, but as I saw the same commercial over and over, I looked more closely. You could clearly see it was purposefully done to distort it to the point where you couldn't read it.

Edited, Dec 14th 2011 8:33pm by TirithRR
I think that's great. They're basically telling you not to bother as they're blatantly trying to swindle you.
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TirithRR wrote:
It says 'average' so couldn't they play the first half very loud, then very quite on the second half (like they usually do, hide all the fine print speak in fast, low volume, talk)? So if the show averages 70dB, then the first half of the commercial could be 80, and the second half 60. I've even seen many commercials that vary every few lines, some really loud "important" crap and some quite (usually real) crap.

No, it only uses the average volume of the show, I think. For the commercial itself, at no point is it allowed to exceed the average volume, even for a moment.
#18 Dec 14 2011 at 8:23 PM Rating: Good
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TirithRR wrote:
It says 'average' so couldn't they play the first half very loud, then very quite on the second half (like they usually do, hide all the fine print speak in fast, low volume, talk)? So if the show averages 70dB, then the first half of the commercial could be 80, and the second half 60. I've even seen many commercials that vary every few lines, some really loud "important" crap and some quite (usually real) crap.

No, it only uses the average volume of the show, I think. For the commercial itself, at no point is it allowed to exceed the average volume, even for a moment.


Is there another link to the regulation somewhere? I was just going by the article linked which said

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The order, which goes into effect in one year, “says commercials must have the same average volume as the programs they accompany,” says FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski.


If they both average 70, then that seems to fit that description of the FCC regulation.
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#19 Dec 14 2011 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
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I read another article about it on Time's website, but I can't find it now. That was my interpretation of it, but I could be mistaken.
#20 Dec 15 2011 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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#21 Dec 15 2011 at 12:35 PM Rating: Good
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SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY BIGFOOT MONSTER JAM AT ALAMO SPEEDWAY also your car will be looted while you're watching the monstertrucks as it is so loud you wont hear the alarm go off but by entering these premises you waive all rights and responsibilities on our part
WORLDS FASTEST DRAG RACERS AND DESTRUCTION DERBY ACTION SUNDAY SUNDAY!!!!
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#22 Dec 15 2011 at 12:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Dear Kuwoobie, once your elbows are out of poopy diapers, please fix thread title. Thank you.
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#23 Dec 15 2011 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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Dear Kuwoobie, once your elbows are out of poopy diapers, please fix thread title. Thank you.


You know, I swear I fixed it already before it was posted. Or maybe that was a dream.
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