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#27 Jul 13 2015 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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I know I couldn't pay ya'll to do that though, or anyone else really.
Yeah, that. The whole "everything is bad so pay attention to me" thing. You said it yourself that you don't even believe her and yet you continue to pay attention and make up excuses to continue to do so.


I don't believe she has multiple personalities. I don't know whether or not to believe what she believes however. I'd talk to her either way. It's not the point.

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If any of us called you on Skype for half the day and made your kid cry and you made up excuses to keep allowing it, I'd say that was emotionally manipulative as well.


Like I said, I have been helping her a lot with her behavior and it isn't a problem anymore. I imagine you on the other hand would have much less of an excuse for acting that way. She might not be completely psychotic in the way she'd want us to think, but she does have a lot problems and that unfortunately has been a result of them.
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#28 Jul 13 2015 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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I imagine you on the other hand would have much less of an excuse for acting that way.
Like an eleven year old girl who wants to be pampered by a grown man? I guess you got me there.
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#29 Jul 13 2015 at 12:30 PM Rating: Good
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I just think it's a bit weird that I'd have to explain the same things multiple times and that you seem to have a really whacked out exaggerated version of what I have been saying that you really want to stick to for whatever reason, and that's fine.

I created this thread because I had doubts myself and needed to see it all on paper, and I knew ya'll would be able to come up with ideas way worse than my own. Seeing how this is the worst you can come up with, I'm feeling pretty fine.

I'm actually looking forward to the next time she calls. Arena points reset today I need someone to cap 2 vs 2 with. I feel like I can look forward to however many years it takes for her to become more independent and starts driving around in cars with boys and doesn't want to hang out with me anymore. Smiley: tongue
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#30 Jul 13 2015 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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While you're rationalizing for yourself, can you get me Chris Hansen's autograph?
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I just think it's a bit weird that I'd have to explain the same things multiple times and that you seem to have a really whacked out exaggerated version of what I have been saying that you really want to stick to for whatever reason, and that's fine.

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Since then, she has video/voice called me just to talk nearly every day-- with calls frequently exceeding 9+ hours. With my wife being away much of the time with her new job as an RN, it was great to have someone keeping me company [...] We began to have conversations that didn't feel comfortable talking about in calls-- problems with her family and personal life, which are many. I can't believe how intelligent she is-- how articulate with her thoughts-- how crass and witty are her jokes, given she is only 11 years old. [...] She has told me that I am like a father to her now. As for my feelings... I have never felt so close to anyone in my life. We have a strange kind of mutual understand about many things that go completely unsaid. It's a different kind of love than I've felt before, but also very intense. [...] Often times, a lot of the things she tells me scare the living **** out of me. [...] She has made my stepdaughter cry on several occasions with words of cruelty that could wound even the most well-adjusted adults. [...] She claims to have multiple personalities. One of them, Red, is supposedly some manifestation of her damaged self that comes out when she's lashing out at people. [...] She says it is no fun unless it hurts. [...] I get the feeling she doesn't like to have to compete for my attention, and it is when she becomes to most violent. [...] If we were to go away, she says, Red would become unbound and take over completely. [...] I feel like everything in me wants to heal her-- to protect her. [...] My wife says we could adopt her if not for her felony, and the fact that her parents aren't technically mistreating her as far as we know, and the fact that she lives several states north of here-- that and she would probably murder my stepdaughter if we lived together Smiley: frown

Yeah, no one needs to exaggerate this for it to be "whacked out". And that's still 90% of your OP because damn near every line was a winner in a "whacked out" department.

Anyway, since you've apparently recommitted yourself to this train wreck by using everyone else as an excuse, be sure to come back in six months and tell us how it worked out so we can say "Told ya so".

Edited, Jul 13th 2015 1:45pm by Jophiel
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That said, I would like to buy the movie rights to your story. Psychopathic eleven year old stalks internet family after her attention-seeking is jilted is something Hollywood can work with.

Inappropriate: It's no fun unless it hurts

Edited, Jul 13th 2015 1:48pm by Jophiel
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#33 Jul 13 2015 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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Anyway, since you've apparently recommitted yourself to this train wreck by using everyone else as an excuse, be sure to come back in six months and tell us how it worked out so we can say "Told ya so".

Edited, Jul 13th 2015 1:45pm by Jophiel


I will if this site is still here in 6 months. Smiley: frown

Edited, Jul 13th 2015 7:00pm by Kuwoobie
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#34 Jul 13 2015 at 1:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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That said, I would like to buy the movie rights to your story. Psychopathic eleven year old stalks internet family after her attention-seeking is jilted is something Hollywood can work with.

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Edited, Jul 13th 2015 1:48pm by Jophiel



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I'm guessing that, in six months, they'll have migrated us to free-boards.net or something to cut costs.
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#36 Jul 14 2015 at 8:56 AM Rating: Good
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I was wrong. It takes a big man to admit that. You weren't looking for someone to validate what your conscience was telling you, you were looking for someone to validate your behavior. No one has, and now you're arguing with people.

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Also, what Joph has said about my being emotionally compromised is actually a massive understatement.
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Like I said, I have been helping her a lot with her behavior and it isn't a problem anymore.

Based on your own admissions, you are the last person who should be helping this child. Seriously, you are uniquely qualified to be the very last person to be helping her.

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#37 Jul 14 2015 at 10:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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This entire thread has put my own mothers death in the "Oh its not that bad" category.

Kuwoobie, please... stop talking to this child for your own safety. Even if it's for other reasons I urge you to seek some counseling, even if it's a local AA group or similar.
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#38 Jul 14 2015 at 10:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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#39 Jul 14 2015 at 10:36 AM Rating: Good
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Jesus ******* christ...

I'm raising a 14 year old girl who's not even mine. I'd probably show up at your door if I found out you had a NINE HOUR CONVERSATION with her let alone this extended, perverted relationship you're defending, and I'm in another country. There'd be no police involved until your wife called them to save your ***. That's just ****** up.

Stay away from me and my family.
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Hey, what was he SUPPOSED to do!?! Could an adult possibly find any way to cut short a nine hour conversation that an eleven year old girl wants to have with him? I can't EVEN IMAGINE! That's like... grown up stuff, man!
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#41 Jul 14 2015 at 12:06 PM Rating: Good
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Because I totally have better things to do.
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#42 Jul 14 2015 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
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Dyadem, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
This entire thread has put my own mothers death in the "Oh its not that bad" category.

Kuwoobie, please... stop talking to this child for your own safety. Even if it's for other reasons I urge you to seek some counseling, even if it's a local AA group or similar.


Your mothers death is far more terrible Dyadem. Just some of the people here love being dramatic and this is just too perfect for them. Some, like Yoda, are acting as if I'm asking her for nudes or something ridiculous like that. I keep my language clean when I do speak to her.
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#43 Jul 14 2015 at 12:40 PM Rating: Good
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I can't even.
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Hey guys, why are you being so over dramatic about this strange, intense love I feel for an eleven year old on the internet?
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#45 Jul 14 2015 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
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Hey guys, why are you being so over dramatic about this strange, intense love I feel for an eleven year old on the internet?


It's not like that, perv.
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#46 Jul 14 2015 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
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Just some of the people here love being dramatic and this is just too perfect for them. Some, like Yoda, are acting as if I'm asking her for nudes or something ridiculous like that. I keep my language clean when I do speak to her.

I don't think anyone here thinks you're asking for nudes, but as a parent, were I to find out my daughter had a 9 hour conversation with some guy in his late 20's/early 30's, I'd lose my **** and assume he was trying to seduce her. If he was lucky, the cops would be called. Unlucky, would be me showing up at his door, refusing any explanation and just beating him to death. That's the situation you're putting yourself in here.


But you just go ahead, make your mistakes and, like every other time, in a few weeks/months/years, come back to this thread and see that, like every other time, we were right about what situation you were putting yourself into, and the **** you find yourself in, was completely avoidable had you taken, the not-outrageous, advice of these "known" internet strangers.
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#47 Jul 14 2015 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
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Just some of the people here love being dramatic and this is just too perfect for them. Some, like Yoda, are acting as if I'm asking her for nudes or something ridiculous like that. I keep my language clean when I do speak to her.

I don't think anyone here thinks you're asking for nudes, but as a parent, were I to find out my daughter had a 9 hour conversation with some guy in his late 20's/early 30's, I'd lose my **** and assume he was trying to seduce her. If he was lucky, the cops would be called. Unlucky, would be me showing up at his door, refusing any explanation and just beating him to death. That's the situation you're putting yourself in here.


And there lies the problem. You would assume. They would assume. Everyone assumes. I don't have to assume, because I already know I am no harm to anyone.

My stepdaughter has been in a lot of trouble in the past for talking to strange guys on the internet, and, as it turned out, they actually were saying REALLY inappropriate things to her, even knowing she was only 9 years old at the time. That being said, we also don't just assume everyone she speaks to some kind of predator, and no, we aren't simply going to force her to not speak to anyone on the internet anymore because of those two experiences.

I have heard a lot of similar horror stories from other players from my server, and from Bloss/Red herself. Given that, it is probably a lot better she is talking to me instead of the 49 year old she used to talk to who actually did ask her for nudes and was a total perv, or worse.

I completely understand the parent thing. I am a parent. Her 22 year old sister knows I talk to her and as far as I know so do her mom and there is no issue because simply being old does not automatically qualify me as a threat. Right now she is messaging me on Skype telling me about how worried she is about her boyfriend because of some sleeping pills he took and I am assuring her that he isn't going to overdoes on Melatonin and isn't answering his phone because he's exhausted from the two of them being up talking all night. . I am not the slightest bit worried about it because I know I am not saying or doing anything wrong.
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Given that, it is probably a lot better she is talking to me instead of the 49 year old she used to talk to who actually did ask her for nudes and was a total perv, or worse.

Shit, you talking to her daily for 9+ hours at a time and talking about adopting her practically makes you a hero!
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#49 Jul 14 2015 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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Given that, it is probably a lot better she is talking to me instead of the 49 year old she used to talk to who actually did ask her for nudes and was a total perv, or worse.

Shit, you talking to her daily for 9+ hours at a time and talking about adopting her practically makes you a hero!


That was never a discussion we had with her. She doesn't even know that we talked about it. Oh, and that's just as bad. Smiley: rolleyes

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I never said you had the discussion with her. I said you were talking about it... ya know, which you were.

But, hey, feel free to write "martyr complex" next to "emotionally stunted" on your list of rationalizations of how this isn't 100% eff'd up.
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Ahaha. Glad to see nothing has changed. I could make a thread about paying my electric bill and you guys would turn it into a circus by filling in the blanks yourselves or nitpicking tiny details and taking them way the **** out of context. I have never seen quite this level of overreaching, however. I'll chalk it up to everyone being particularly bored with the lack of activity on this forum anymore.
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