What are the rules on rate-ups exactly?Follow

Know that now, didn't at the time 3 years ago. Mostly just surfed the SWG area for info, didn't post with it much(if at all), so it wasn't a big deal. Only bummer is I would have preferred the old name.

With all this talk of karma here and in a thread in forum 10, several ideas have been tossed around, and I'd like to make a suggestion:

Change the current method of a new post being double rated with the posters average karma to them being single rated with their average, and then rated at 3.00.


The current system is very "first impression" and doesn't reflect changes in behavior. A poster can get guru in their first few posts, and then turn out to be a jerk later on at a point where it is very difficult to take that away.

Most users only rate down really bad posts, and leave everything else alone. If someone with bad karma from their first 15 posts then posts 1000 posts that don't get rated at all, I think the system should reflect in some way that while they may not be a great poster, they're not posting trash anymore. The 3.00 rate everytime they post would gradually bring them back up.

In the same vein. The 3.00 rate would make it difficult for a 10 post Guru to stay a Guru, and would require users to actually be consistant in making quality posts to keep high karma. Whereas, the current system lets them get their post count high and then stop giving a crap.

You forgot to mention when those 257 negative ratings were issued. If I only had 100 posts at the time it would've been one hell of a blow. And from what I remember, it was.


Bodhi found out and told people. I'm sure you remember the rest of the story. And just so we're clear, I'd love to have my postcount locked at 1 so that every single post would show the actual rating of that single post, not my overall rating +/- after-ratings.

The whole thing where people make 4,000 posts in the Asylum or the OOT and keep their Guru so they become sort of immune on the game boards is a joke. And before you go on about my postcount, read the above paragraph again.


I've made enemies and friends in both places, no doubt about it, but I didn't ask to be made a Scholar. I gained posts and it became harder for me to raise my overall rating. Had to tell people to lay off the (positive) karma camping because I got tired of seeing every single post of mine get rated up without apparent reason. I, for one, don't think ratings should be issued in the non-game related forums.

Thanks for telling me, though. I need to send both of them a Christmas card.

Oh, and for the record, they're split on whether I'm a @#%^ or an awesome poster, kthx.


First of all, including the topic karma in a post doesn't necessarily mean it's a rant. I wasn't aware that just talking about karma was considered no-no in your book (can you get me a copy of it, btw?). I write a lot about karma, yes. I think the system is downright stupid. You know my stance, I made that pretty clear, although in a slightly psychotic way, back when I was posting under the name Qaoz. The site is admin moderated anyways, so why use a system that is so easy to abuse? It's not like people get auto-banned when they reach sub-sub-sub-default (thank god, talk about abuse). Until then it's still moderated by you guys and so the karma system is just a funtoy.


Oh, I do my best, but what's stopping the Asylumites from going to other forums?

It's not clearly labeled, btw. In fact, the label is completely off:

No holds barred forum for deep OOT discourse. Not for the faint of heart.

It should be labeled:

Private forum for old-timers and seriously disturbed minds. Be aware that posting here might result in massive loss of karma rating. Anything the old-timers (including many of the admins) deem unworthy will be transferred to the lesser Out of Topic forum.

THAT would be a clear and precise label.

Now, stop pretending, Kao. Everyone knows you and I are like two chicks fighting over the same guy. We've never been buddies and we never will be. That doesn't mean I don't respect you and your position, but I'm not getting the same vibe from you. More than once have you brought up Qaoz in a conversation as a sort of punchline, probably hoping it would make me blush and give up. I don't exactly remember what I said back then and I hope I'll never find out, except I know I did some stupid stuff with some ratesocks and alternate accounts. But come on now, big guy, that was, what, two years ago?

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorn, but this is getting ridiculous. I did some stupid sh*t and you've done some stupid sh*t. I'm not mad at you because of it. It's the internet.

/target Rimesume
/cast Beer (Rank 4)

Edited, Aug 12th 2007 1:43pm by Mazra

1298 ratings:

Down 594 times.
In the middle 23 times.
Up 668 times.
And you've been nuked 13 times (what have you been doing?).

First ever rating was on December 27, 2004 in an FFXI thread titled "help im a worm".

And the most recent one was at 4:44 a.m. this morning.

You have rated people 549 times:

Down 198 times.
In the middle 17 times.
Up 334 times.

Thanks again :D

And damn I'm such a liar.

Could any Admin show me my rating history and my "Admin Notes" (if I have any)?in advance!

Not to be a jerk Mazra, and sure, I've complained about Karma too but maybe you should consider posting at the 99% of forums without forum karma. I think they keep it on partly b/c it is part of what this whole forum is about.

Since we are ******** about karma in here, someone feel like telling me who is camping me and rime?

I think I fit in here quite nicely, whining and *********

Edited, Aug 13th 2007 4:56pm by Darkenbuddy

Unless there's some fancy schmancy page I don't know about, it is NOT easy to get your stats. The way I do it is I get a page of all your ratings and paste it into Excel, sort by number, the count how many of each rating. You have to find and corner a bored admin.

LRN2SQL?

I assume this site runs on a SQL database

Dana has a Perl script to do it, but I don't know where he keeps it at.