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#1 Oct 02 2007 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
I have asked noob questions before. We all know people who get in the forums and get mad at hearing noob questions.. i.e. "What server should I play on"...

So how come the search option is only for premium members. If Allakhazam made the forum search free, then noobs could get their answers without asking..

C'mon alla... who pays for a search?
#2 Oct 02 2007 at 1:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm all for reducing noob suggestions.
#3 Oct 02 2007 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
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Well I dont know what restrictions they have on the search, like why its premium only, but if Alla could compound all the search options (forums, items, missions, monsters, etc) into that fancy new search box they added, they'd:

1) Reduce the amount of menu items on the left
2) Probably create more use for the search function. (Not saying its not used often)

Since the search function separates each subject through tabs, it would be cool. Not implying its easy, but again, it would be cool.
#4 Oct 02 2007 at 2:53 PM Rating: Default
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I pay and I hardly use the search, what makes you think that they are going to use it if it was free. Every forum I visit has the same problem, and all of those search functions are free.


Goo idea, but alas, this is a lost cause.
#5 Oct 02 2007 at 2:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks for the suggestion. It's being discussed Smiley: smile
#6 Oct 02 2007 at 2:55 PM Rating: Default
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Well I dont know what restrictions they have on the search, like why its premium only, but if Alla could compound all the search options (forums, items, missions, monsters, etc) into that fancy new search box they added, they'd:

1) Reduce the amount of menu items on the left
2) Probably create more use for the search function. (Not saying its not used often)

Since the search function separates each subject through tabs, it would be cool. Not implying its easy, but again, it would be cool.


There is a Forum search section for those of us that pay. Like to find old post and such. if it were made free the amount of Necroing would increase dramaticly. there would be Karma bombling from hell this forum would tripple in size. The fallout would be un-bearable and eventually Usagi would be all thats left, as he is the internet
#7 Oct 02 2007 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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Problem being, the big questions being asked are still in stickies, which you really SHOULDN'T need to be searching for. If they can't find the stickies, how the hell are they ever gonna find something with search.
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#8 Oct 02 2007 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
I have thought this myself too, b/c it makes it hard not to repeat thread topics if you can't search for them :)

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Even if they aren't asking "noob" questions, any repeated question really IMO





Edited, Oct 2nd 2007 8:23pm by kechup

Edited, Oct 2nd 2007 8:24pm by kechup
#9 Oct 02 2007 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Even if this were made possible, I don't see it helping much, as laziness often gets the better of many posters, and rather than bother with looking, they'll just make a new one anyway.

Heck, most don't even notice the stickies at the top for things like "What server should I play on?". Honestly, how many server posts do you see a day? I stopped counting.
#10 Oct 02 2007 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
from what IN said in this thread

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10;mid=1189912608258839430;num=76;page=1

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seeing that no one has quite mentioned it... while this search feature is great, wouldnt FREE forum searches possibly cut down redundant threads, even a little?

I hate quoting myself, but I do believe I am bringing up a valid point.


Just to give you an answer I believe the reason you wouldn't see this is it'd increase the amount of people who'd seek out specific peoples' posts just to rate them down and we don't want that.


I wouldnt count on forum searches...

Edit: Fixing the damn quotes, lol

Edited, Oct 2nd 2007 7:12pm by taliph
#11 Oct 02 2007 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
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There is a Forum search section for those of us that pay. Like to find old post and such. if it were made free the amount of Necroing would increase dramaticly.


But you have to ask, is Necro-posting worse then having posters just repost a topic that has been discussed, potentially heavily discussed a few pages back? You may be thinking it is better just to give an eye on what threads are created and stuff, but majority of people wont visit more then 2 or 3 page links to past threads, even more so if people are just viewing threads quickly for topics that pertain to their current issue on only the first page.

The first problem though is making the search function something that people will go to. Right now, many posters are not use to it, and more then likely won't use it in the future. But making the search function visit all parts of FFXI Alla, more people may (or may not) utilize it to find what they need, rather then clicking over and over.

You can't necessarily generalize the population on the whole search thing. You can never grasp an idea that everyone will like, but if you make it useful to people who care, other random people may flock to it.

On a side note, I agree many people pass up stickies. In my opinion, its not completely their fault, because the hazard symbol used for sticky threads just is not very eye catching. Possibly a separate frame, or different colors would give people more of a chance to actually see it then pass it.
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#13 Oct 03 2007 at 12:15 AM Rating: Excellent
lmao hazard sign for stickies. "win!" as you internet pros like to say.

I agree with your last paragraph too angelusdemonus, I consider myself a "tortured noob" lol and here is some of my stupidity in all of its glory...

I didn't even see those things for a long time b/4 I figured it out >< They just kind of blended into the background like the ads lol.

I, however, am shy so I didn't post til I kinda figured a few things out :)

I saw that seach box, but I thought that was more for items etc than threads? I couldn't find a thread with a topic on it when I tried but I've only tried it a couple of times.

How well does the search forums work?
#14 Oct 03 2007 at 1:41 PM Rating: Good
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we should compile a list of dead horse topics, lol

Utsusemi, FFXI IZ DIEING, WoW vs FFXI, /nin, PLs, RMT, End Game Drama, New Job Topics(aside from one for the announcement), etc, etc

then a new forum should be constructed: The DHT(Dead Horse Topic) forum
and all topics on said list should be moved there, deep into the bowls of alla, where only those who wish to partake in their drama and karma-bombing festiveness can go
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#15 Oct 03 2007 at 1:50 PM Rating: Excellent
lmao jinte you shoulda put that as a topic in itself.

Lemme me try (im pretty new though)

  • windower (that's a given)
  • what's the easiest way to make gil
  • which craft is most profitable


  • Okay thats all i got for now, have to go bk to bed.

    Grrr just saw this one

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    Hope u aint gonna shove my tourney in there >:(

    lol jk ^^
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