Possible solution to Karma Camping(?)Follow

Hmm, judging by the physical reaction you've coaxed out of me, I would have guessed you were a born fluffer.

Hmm... methhinks you missed his intended meaning.

Thanks for the heads up POL message, BT.

I'm logging back in right now to let my LS, allied LS, and whoever is lucky enough to be in Jeuno at the moment know about this little embarrassment.

Sorry IN. I assumed you were because of this comment:







Kinda just did. :\ You were probably posting as I edited, though.



Edited, Oct 31st 2007 7:41pm by KiokuMemory

Just because I'm 11 doesn't mean I don't have more friends than you do.

You just wait.

Well, you know I already told you he was lying about one thing. People are telling you he likes to wind people up and stuff.

I dunno what more I can say if I'm being thought of as a liar.

Since being an admin on this site I've been called a lot of things, nothing that I particularly care about, but never a liar.

Just sayin'

Don't believe her lies!

Hush, you!

You may not have used the exact word, but your questioning that IN was telling you the truth is essentially the same thing, don't you think?

Since this forum is open to ratings by anyone, I don't see how it's a safe assumption that he did it. People have strong feelings about karma and when people moan and groan about it, they reach for that red arrow faster than you can say desu.

Yes, this is what I'm trying to get at. People do have strong feelings about karma. Why should something so completely biased have any meaning when it comes to an argument?

The assumption was that I was immediately rated down after I made the post and he has been responding to my posts rather quickly. I put two and two together. It was a safe assumption, at the time, and an assumption most people would have made.

I was asking IN to provide evidence. I didn't know he could not post the information. Why is that such a bad thing to ask for evidence.

Respect and trust are two different things. Respect is gained from a single action. Trust is gained from a series of actions and, often, a close relationship with someone. You are essentially asking me to trust a stranger. Would YOU trust a stranger? No and for good reasons.

I respect IN for him keeping his head cool while dealing with me and all the other insults he may have received while being an admin. Just the same reason I respect you. I was once a moderator of my old linkshell's forums. It is no easy task. You are a moderator of an entire network of gaming forums and not just a linkshell of 36ish people. That is a ton of work. I relate to you therefore I respect you. However, I do not know you and, because of that, cannot just give you my trust like that. o_O It's ridiculous to ask me to.

As for taking BT seriously, I do know that you play on Garuda (based on your signature and seeing you in-game). Part of his comment was accurate. You two also seem to be friends. That leads me more to conclusions than just assuming he doesn't play FFXI at all.

I've helped people that I've hated before based on their actions, in-game. It's part of who I am. I don't like to just break bonds based on some dispute on the forums, regardless of the person. I rather make friends than enemies but in some cases it cannot be helped.

You're asking why I trusted BT and I am saying because he provided the most believable story out of everyone here. I do not know anyone here therefore it is safe to assume I do not trust anyone here more than anyone else. The level of trust is the same: 0. You note he has a record of misleading people. Why applaud such behavior if it leads to messes like this?

Grats to him. He mislead me and caused a mess because of it. He also managed to derail the entire thread. Do you not see the truth in Wooooodum's statement if we must deal with people such as this while trying to give you feedback about a system we find faulty? His statement may be inaccurate but I know you know all too well that his generalizations are often held in the eyes of the majority of FFXI players. I am constantly told this by almost all of my friends (due to their own various reasons for disliking Allakazham) but I do not generalize as such. However, I am starting to lean towards them after encounters like this.

Edit: Btw, by having my posts sub-defaulted for providing feedback to you, that contradicts an earlier statement that "sub-defaulted posts never have any useful information".

And, by not being affected by karma yourself, is it really even fair to argue with you? You may not rate me down directly but sheep do follow their shepherd.

Edited, Oct 31st 2007 8:40pm by KiokuMemory

You... you mean we're not...?

We are not allowed to post who has rated who. That's also the point of the system.

Also, I have very few 'friends' on this forum. I would never lie to anyone to cover up another poster . . .