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#1 Oct 28 2007 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Can I appeal the decision that this is 'explicit sexual content'? I could see it being dicey in =10 but =28?

Edited, Oct 28th 2007 10:27pm by Lubriderm

Edited to remove link to image - Fleven

Edited, Oct 28th 2007 7:31pm by Fleven
#2 Oct 28 2007 at 6:29 PM Rating: Default
That's pretty Explicit Smiley: laugh
#3 Oct 28 2007 at 6:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lubriderm the Hand wrote:
Can I appeal the decision that this is 'explicit sexual content'? I could see it being dicey in =10 but =28?

Edited, Oct 28th 2007 10:27pm by Lubriderm


Because people can see your uploaded images even though you may not have used them in a post, the answer was "no, this isn't appropriate." That's the general reasoning behind any of our "no, this isn't appropriate" responses.

Edited, Oct 28th 2007 7:32pm by Fleven
#4 Oct 28 2007 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
I'm not trying to argue with you. I think the image is mostly harmless, and am just looking for a second opinion.

We had a "tits or gtfo' avatar in =10 for over a month. (also harmless)

I also happen to think that an image depicting a stick figure fapping with any stick figure naughty parts covered thats 3 clicks away from someone in a pg forum is somewhat less harmful than the alcohol glorification avatars which pass muster.
#5 Oct 28 2007 at 6:46 PM Rating: Excellent
Fleven made the call and Kaolian seconded and now I third it. The image was a bit beyond PG-13 so he asked you to remove it. End of story.
#6 Oct 28 2007 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
Accepted.
#7 Oct 28 2007 at 7:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lubriderm the Hand wrote:
I'm not trying to argue with you. I think the image is mostly harmless, and am just looking for a second opinion.

We had a "tits or gtfo' avatar in =10 for over a month. (also harmless)

I also happen to think that an image depicting a stick figure fapping with any stick figure naughty parts covered thats 3 clicks away from someone in a pg forum is somewhat less harmful than the alcohol glorification avatars which pass muster.


My rule of thumb is that suggestive content is okay, but anything explicit (even if cartoons, Legos, lolcatz, whatever) crosses the general PG boundary we try to set for the site. The Asylum is probably PG-13, but that's about it. Yes, some stuff does slip through, and if we see it or someone complains, we take a second look, followed by action if appropriate.
#8 Oct 28 2007 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
Fleven wrote:
Lubriderm the Hand wrote:
I'm not trying to argue with you. I think the image is mostly harmless, and am just looking for a second opinion.

We had a "tits or gtfo' avatar in =10 for over a month. (also harmless)

I also happen to think that an image depicting a stick figure fapping with any stick figure naughty parts covered thats 3 clicks away from someone in a pg forum is somewhat less harmful than the alcohol glorification avatars which pass muster.


My rule of thumb is that suggestive content is okay, but anything explicit (even if cartoons, Legos, lolcatz, whatever) crosses the general PG boundary we try to set for the site. The Asylum is probably PG-13, but that's about it. Yes, some stuff does slip through, and if we see it or someone complains, we take a second look, followed by action if appropriate.
That's cool. If nothing else I want to thank you for taking the time to PM me on the subject.

An idea for PG/PG13 images: allow people to set their image bank to private, similar to journals. (R and X should still get banned)

Or, instead of greenlight/redlight, certain images can be flagged as postable in one forum but not another.
#9 Oct 28 2007 at 11:22 PM Rating: Decent
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That image on the screen in that photo is way too sexy for anyone under 13 to handle.
#10 Oct 29 2007 at 3:32 AM Rating: Decent
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but who posts here that's honestly under 13? i think they'd get spotted and told to leave right quick
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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
#11 Oct 29 2007 at 5:31 AM Rating: Excellent
I can't make up my mind if "why did my image get deleted" whining is better or worse than karma whining.

Edited, Oct 29th 2007 9:31am by Mindel
#12 Oct 29 2007 at 6:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I can't make up my mind if "why did my image get deleted" whining is better or worse than karma whining.

Edited, Oct 29th 2007 9:31am by Mindel
I just wanted a second opinion. I got told in a second and third opinion to GFM and shut up about it. I think a lot of us are still trying to navigate the gray area, that's all.
#13 Oct 29 2007 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
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I can't make up my mind if "why did my image get deleted" whining is better or worse than karma whining.

Edited, Oct 29th 2007 9:31am by Mindel
They're both equally fun.
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Karma whining is retarded because it usually doesn't make any difference. It's retarded for other reasons as well but that's good enough to heap scorn on it.

Images are still tricky. If it disappears, you don't know if it was because of an admin or a Report clicker. If it was part of your post, you don't know if you can restore it or even if it will be restored. And images seem to be more closely monitored than text or even avatars. So it's easy enough to put up an image, get it yanked by an admin and be totally in the dark about why. My classic example being the Mindel X-Ray Specs ad. If I had written a post and included the word "Zionist", I'd be floored to see an admin edit my post to remove the word. So I certainly didn't expect to see an image removed because it had the same word in it.

Basically, it's still unclear exactly what the rules are. I doubt the admins themselves know yet in any crystal manner and are playing it on the side of caution rather than let someone post offensive material and say "But you let THIS one go!"
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#15 Oct 29 2007 at 3:44 PM Rating: Good
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Professor Jinte wrote:
but who posts here that's honestly under 13? i think they'd get spotted and told to leave right quick


I started here when I was 12.

It's not just posting here under 13, it's having children that may look at the computer or posting from work.
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Deadgye wrote:
Professor Jinte wrote:
but who posts here that's honestly under 13? i think they'd get spotted and told to leave right quick


I started here when I was 12.

It's not just posting here under 13, it's having children that may look at the computer or posting from work.


that's true, i guess but still, kids are gonna get exposed to it at school anyway

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me too.... O.o

Edited, Oct 31st 2007 6:55am by Jinte
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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
#17 Oct 31 2007 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
Professor Jinte wrote:
Deadgye wrote:
Professor Jinte wrote:
but who posts here that's honestly under 13? i think they'd get spotted and told to leave right quick


I started here when I was 12.

It's not just posting here under 13, it's having children that may look at the computer or posting from work.


that's true, i guess but still, kids are gonna get exposed to it at school anyway


So? That doesn't mean that Allakhazam shouldn't try to be a respectable site. That's one of the worst excuses I've seen for something. "Uh, well sure, protect the kids, but they're gonna see it at school so what's the big deal?" Well, guess what? Not every kid "sees it at school."
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Professor Jinte wrote:
Deadgye wrote:
Professor Jinte wrote:
but who posts here that's honestly under 13? i think they'd get spotted and told to leave right quick


I started here when I was 12.

It's not just posting here under 13, it's having children that may look at the computer or posting from work.


that's true, i guess but still, kids are gonna get exposed to it at school anyway


So? That doesn't mean that Allakhazam shouldn't try to be a respectable site. That's one of the worst excuses I've seen for something. "Uh, well sure, protect the kids, but they're gonna see it at school so what's the big deal?" Well, guess what? Not every kid "sees it at school."


i posted that wierd, thinking that we were discussing swearing again, allow me to alter my answer:

they're gonna see it if they watch tv(what kid doesn't) there is no protecting kids from it, not in this day and age, maybe little kids, but they're to young to grasp the concept or be really bothered by it.

i was a little kid not to long ago, you can't tell someone who's seen it through personal experience that it's not true, because you know, most kids know what sex is by the time their 8-9(i know i did...)

i understand the need to be respectable, sure, but still, it shouldn't be for the reason of "some posters may have kids that see the pictures" because that's just stupid, end of story.
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Reiterpallasch wrote:
Glitterhands wrote:
Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
#19 Oct 31 2007 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
Professor Jinte wrote:
i posted that wierd, thinking that we were discussing swearing again, allow me to alter my answer:

they're gonna see it if they watch tv(what kid doesn't) there is no protecting kids from it, not in this day and age, maybe little kids, but they're to young to grasp the concept or be really bothered by it.

i was a little kid not to long ago, you can't tell someone who's seen it through personal experience that it's not true, because you know, most kids know what sex is by the time their 8-9(i know i did...)

i understand the need to be respectable, sure, but still, it shouldn't be for the reason of "some posters may have kids that see the pictures" because that's just stupid, end of story.


No, it's not "just stupid, end of story." It's respectful. Sure, kids might see that on TV, but I say again: what an asinine reason to allow it to permeate everything.

A kid might see it on TV, but that's not nearly the same as seeing it on a website that his/her parent is looking at, is it? No, not even close.
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