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#877 Oct 06 2006 at 7:26 AM Rating: Decent
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I think its a real shame that the good players alert is 4 pages shorter than this one.
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#878 Oct 06 2006 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
I agree Sicklove...but ya know...
Over the two years I've played...I coulda easily landed on both lists...
we all have our bad days...don't be too harsh^^

It's just ashamed that when you do 1 little thing wrong everybody remembers...
and the many many good things we do are so easily forgotten...lol

I always figure the game play is one thing...we are all noobs in one thing or another...
but all ya really need to do, is treat all the players ya meet with respect...
that'll always shine thru and leave a good impression^^


~Halfadude~
#879 Oct 06 2006 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
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This thread neeeds to crawl under a rock and die...fo sho
#880 Oct 06 2006 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
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lol Balfor

Just because the party didn't roam like you wanted, just because you felt you could've done better getting merits in a different setting - no need to say these folks belong on a Bad Player list.

Tarah might not be a great WHM, granted. I believe the party you were in was with RoadmannXX as PLD (if you're gonna bad player-list someone please get their name correct. :P ) - yeah he may xp in artifact, not everyone has the means to get god-like gear, especially newer players to the game. But he can and does hold hate - except when you /sub WAR to DRG and spam your WS everytime you get 100% tp or when you ***** up SATA setup consistently. You didn't help the party success very much as you seem to want to indicate in your post.

Also, just FYI: if you wanted a merit party, a traditional setup wasn't gonna get you the desired effect. Oh but wait - lol-DRG in a merit party {No Thanks}

(wow, Alla won't let you use lol-DRG without the hyphen - it translates to "I'm a moron")

Zu

(I'm not normally a ***** about stuff, but I hate seeing people labeled as bad players because their gear doesn't match someone else's perception of what it should be.)

BLM 75/RDM 75/THF 59/WHM 48/NIN 44/RNG 41/WAR 25/SMN 22/BST 18
ZM 17 - complete
CoP 8-4 complete
ToAU 8, Runic Portals 3/5

#881 Oct 07 2006 at 5:10 AM Rating: Decent
Zuzeeque wrote:
Just because the party didn't roam like you wanted, just because you felt you could've done better getting merits in a different setting - no need to say these folks belong on a Bad Player list.

actually i said the not roaming thing wasn't a big deal, just unusual for that camp



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yeah he may xp in artifact, not everyone has the means to get god-like gear, especially newer players to the game.


i know not everybody has the means to get the best gear and i don't fault him that but there is better gear than regular AF for a lv 74 paladin, and at lvl 74 he is by no means a new player so you saying that doesn't help his case in my eyes. if you don't have some way to make money by lvl 74, then something is wrong. if you can go 14 lvls without upgrading most of your gear, esp the last 14 lvls of the game, something is definately wrong. now don't get me wrong, if there is absolutely no way in hell he can get anything better than AF thats on his shoulders and i never complained about it, just mentioned it because at lv 74 he should be wearing something other than AF. i don't know the name of the set off the top of my head, but i know paladin has that purple and gold set of armor.

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But he can and does hold hate - except when you /sub WAR to DRG and spam your WS everytime you get 100% tp or when you ***** up SATA setup consistently. You didn't help the party success very much as you seem to want to indicate in your post.

actually, the only time he held hate was when i changed my weapon to staff. or when the sam got a good SATA WS on him. and i didn't ***** up SATA setup. all i was instructed to do was voke the mob when it got to camp, and thats what i did. the only times i could have "screwed it up" was when the mob had me down so low in HP that i had to jump hate away to survive since the WHM wasn't healing me until last min. they had a galka monk doing the first voke before i joined the PT and last time i checked, a galka monk has WAY more HP than i do. so unless the mage is gonna heal me or they are gonna sata faster, its not my fault that i jump hate away to avoid a death.

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Also, just FYI: if you wanted a merit party, a traditional setup wasn't gonna get you the desired effect. Oh but wait - lol-DRG in a merit party {No Thanks}


actually i do get plenty of merit pts, and if the PT is competent as most are, its very good exp. as far as i'm concerned if you want a traditional PT setup go to lufaise or dvuca isle staging point, not to the merit camp in caedarva.

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(I'm not normally a ***** about stuff, but I hate seeing people labeled as bad players because their gear doesn't match someone else's perception of what it should be.)
i didn't label them bad players because of their gear, but because of how they performed in the party. a tank that can barely hold hate, and a white mage that doesn't cure much. thats why i put them here, had it been gear alone on the PLD i wouldn't have thought twice about it. but when he can't hold hate for ****, i'm gonna say something.
#882 Oct 27 2006 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
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A lvl 40-ish whm named PriestX.

Ditched our party in Crawlers Nest while we were moving camp. I'm guessing he was trying to make it look like a d/c, as priest waited until everybody else was ahead of him, and ran off to a corner and was logging out. I was lagging behind everybody(inlcuding priest) and saw him kneeling before disappearing.
#883 Oct 29 2006 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Also, just FYI: if you wanted a merit party, a traditional setup wasn't gonna get you the desired effect. Oh but wait - lol-DRG in a merit party {No Thanks}

(wow, Alla won't let you use lol-DRG without the hyphen - it translates to "I'm a moron")

Zu


You cannot do lol-drg or lol-pup without the hyphen. Any other job lets you do it though haha.
#884 Nov 08 2006 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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yeah he may xp in artifact, not everyone has the means to get god-like gear, especially newer players to the game.

If at level 74, you dont have the means to farm up some 300k~ for Adaman gear(Im talking about PLD in this case), then something is seriously wrong. Im not saying the AF is bad for exp. But at that level, there are better pieces. Good gear doesnt make bad players better, but not having decent gear can make bad players worse. I dont expect every PLD I see in the 73+ range to have Koenig or Kaiser gear, that would be ridiculus, but they should try to at least upgrade a few of their gear pieces to perform more effectively in the party.

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But he can and does hold hate - except when you /sub WAR to DRG and spam your WS everytime you get 100% tp or when you ***** up SATA setup consistently.

So what subjob would you recomend for a DRG in a PT? /SAM? Lets try this out. /SAM will give you meditate. Check. Using meditate as a sub will give you up to 70%TP I believe(not 100% sure since I havent subbed SAM, but know a 75DRG who does), plus a couple of good hits, you will obtain 100% TP faster. In a multiple hit WS like Penta Thrust, its more efficient IMO to do WS @ 100%TP rather than wait for more than that. I base this soley on the fact that my WAR is 66 and I apply that to Rampage. No use in waiting for more TP. Other than SAM, I dont really know of any good sub job for a DRG in a PT other than /WAR(I know DRGs can /WHM, but its mostly for solo purposes. Only time I've seen DRGs do /WHM was in a 5 DRG/WHM 1WHM/SMN PT in Upper Delkfutts tower).
Now, as for PLD holding hate, what the heck? Only way I can see a PLD not holding hate(and I am not discrediting BalforX here, Im just saying) is by him not Provoking, not using other JAs(such as Rampart, Sentinel, you know what I mean), and not curing himself. D'oh, but how can he cure himself if the DRG has hate?
If you ask me, someone here wasnt doing their job, and that was the PLD(I cant say about the WHM, because having played WHM myself, numerous ammounts of things can happen that can drop your MP real fast. Yet, not curing someone when they are in red HP can be an indicator of a crap WHM). I've PTed with many good PLDs, and know very good PLDs, some in my own LS. Even after outputing some massive damage on Rampage, they still seem to hold hate. Trying to say that the PLDs unability to hold hate is BalforX's fault is retarded. If a PLD cant hold hate, 90% of the time its his own fault for not knowing how to do his job properly.

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Also, just FYI: if you wanted a merit party, a traditional setup wasn't gonna get you the desired effect. Oh but wait - lol-DRG in a merit party {No Thanks}

So now you are bashing on his job? Whats all this about?

Edited, Nov 8th 2006 at 9:46am PST by Forbidens
#885 Nov 08 2006 at 5:46 PM Rating: Decent
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xifer wrote:
Darkphalanx.

I just pt'd today. He was playing blu in a 34-36 party. It was a pretty easy camp in B.Domain and we were pretty much on autopolit. I can't really say he was a bad player though. He did heal a few times during fighting, but how else is he supposed to get MP without a brd? The main thing i can say that was very bad was that he was wearing lvl 21 gear.

Anyway he was an ok player and i wouldn't call him someone to look out for, just pretty poor.
#886 Nov 11 2006 at 9:24 PM Rating: Decent
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If at level 74, you dont have the means to farm up some 300k~ for Adaman gear(Im talking about PLD in this case), then something is seriously wrong. Im not saying the AF is bad for exp. But at that level, there are better pieces. Good gear doesnt make bad players better, but not having decent gear can make bad players worse. I dont expect every PLD I see in the 73+ range to have Koenig or Kaiser gear, that would be ridiculus, but they should try to at least upgrade a few of their gear pieces to perform more effectively in the party.


AF totally blows adaman away. Plus it's free.
#887 Nov 12 2006 at 2:01 AM Rating: Decent
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If at level 74, you dont have the means to farm up some 300k~ for Adaman gear(Im talking about PLD in this case), then something is seriously wrong. Im not saying the AF is bad for exp. But at that level, there are better pieces. Good gear doesnt make bad players better, but not having decent gear can make bad players worse. I dont expect every PLD I see in the 73+ range to have Koenig or Kaiser gear, that would be ridiculus, but they should try to at least upgrade a few of their gear pieces to perform more effectively in the party.



AF totally blows adaman away. Plus it's free.



Yup, AF > Adaman on the whole


Most of my LS: Omg Aes you gimp using that AF, go buy some Adaman gear lol



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People just dont get it about PLD AF, most of it is amazing gear and the boots especially blow adaman out of the water
#888 Nov 13 2006 at 12:10 PM Rating: Default
Anbu LS Bismark Leaders and underlings: Warning!

Zetsumei(THF), Avanyiza(NIN), Kichii(RDM), Silverak(WAR) and Dchere(MNK).
These where the main jobs of this crew of bandits at the time of there bad deeds.

During the early stages of Anbu when I was in that shell. These guys stole from the members and used people to pimp themselfs out in gear and gil. All I have to say is shame on them. If you join a shell with these guys running the show you may as well get SLAVE tatted on your but cheeks.

Also on a side note Kichii hacked the founder member of Anbus account and stole the gear. Kichii sold some of the gear and kept some for use. The account Kichii hacked was (Alamie (Elvan)(NIN)). Alamie started Anbu and was kicked from his own shell apon his return by the 4 mobsters named at beginning of this post. I dont think DChere had any part in kicking Alamie.

Alamie came back as a Mithra named Rinmaru and was told he had no power in shell since he lost his highlevel character after his break from FFXI. SE could not recall his character after he let the billing stop on it. But Zetsumei and Kichii where in charge of the character for Alamei. I dont know how this was working but Zet and Kichii decided to loot the character instead of keep it safe until leader came back. Zetsumei used to play the NIN (Almie) at events to tank for shell. Then the character disapeared and was not seen again.

This is not they only occurance though. Many longtime members where skipped over on gear from HLNM events. The same members at every event where givin lot rights to gear while others where asked to pass by the leaders of shell. Money drops where sold and gil was held by the leaders.

I noticed the gear of the leaders grow more and more pimped as time went on. Almost every member on shell was broke and screaming they had not gil to buy supplies for events until the shell started to fall apart. Then Zetsumei and his gang started to recruit new members to use them until they got what they wanted and the new members where broke and dejected from working so hard.

Silverak and DChere was the LS gear hores. They where allowed to lot every piece of gear that dropped for any jobs. This was because they where friends of Zetsumei.

Avanyiza was a NIN that joined later. This was strange also. Avanyiza gained lotting rights over every other tank in shell appon joining the ANBU shell. And of course pimped himself out at the expense of everyone else.

I knew their game and called them on it. But in the end I figured I would just toss my shell and tell the other good members they needed to quit because Anbu was a dead horse with a bad driver. These guys roll in their own lil tight clique. They will only respond to you if they feel your of use to them. And thats just how they are. I dont believe a zibra can change its stripes. And I still see them online in Bismark to this day. So be aware of them if you play with them.

And thats my tale of some bad people I found in game.
#889 Nov 14 2006 at 7:54 AM Rating: Default
Naguma you are quite right on a many things. However, you disrepect Silverak and Dchere with your post. While everything you said about Zetsumei, Kichii, & Avanyiza is true the things about Sil & Dc are not. Those two were very hard working players, everything they earned they earned because they busted their asses and became neccessary for the Shell to survive at the time. And Dchere was never rich or pimped, lol. And btw he quit 8 months ago /cry
#890 Nov 14 2006 at 1:35 PM Rating: Excellent
Yay! Forums drama, always a mature way to resolve a personal matter. I'm kicking myself for responding to this, but I can't allow you to freely slander the ANBU leaders who have worked very hard for everyone who is and ever was a member.

Nagumo wrote:

And thats my tall tale of some bad people I found in game.

Fixed.

Nagumo - you're just so deluded, I don't even know where to start. I'll just say this: Almie wasn't kicked from the shell upon his return, he threw the biggest linkshell temper tantrum I've ever seen, dropped his pearl and never returned. And why was he upset? Because after leaving the shell for a year, he expected to come back with nothing changed. That wasn't the case, and when we tried to explain that we were not just a small social shell anymore, he flipped his lid and refused to listen to anyone. After that, he's been spreading BS about the leaders to anyone who will listen - and of course he never has any details or evidence to back up anything he says. If you want to take the word of a grown man who acts like a five year old, go right ahead...

Oozura - I'd expect that kind of response from someone who left the ls after they were not allowed to lot Haidate or some other item. You had been in the shell for what... a couple weeks, and you think that gives you the right to lot before someone who had been waiting for the item for months? I'm just glad all the selfish pricks like yourself have left or were kicked - cause the shell has never been more fun and peaceful.

- Sele
#891 Nov 15 2006 at 5:38 AM Rating: Default
Im not sure who you are Sele, but if you're associated with Anbu, the use of slander to defend the past immoral actions of your leaders does not suprise me.

If you wish to make new posts regarding bad players by all means do. But don't defend posts about other individuals by trying to discredit the people that wrote them with slander. Its a low, and ineffective technique reserved for middle-school-age children.

The fact that I have never met Naguma before, and agree with some of the things he said is evidence that what he stated is probably true. This was the reason I decided to reply regarding his post.


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I'm just glad all the selfish pricks like yourself have left or were kicked - cause the shell has never been more fun and peaceful.


I'm glad things are going well for you in your shell. But I could care less. At the time I left that group I think there were probably 20 people total in the shell, I felt the leadership was dishonest, and that consequently the shell was inevitably going to break. My time is valuable therefore I was not going to spend it with shady, good-for-nothing people.


I <3 Drama
#892 Nov 15 2006 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
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ooz ur a dumba$$, Slander is Spoken, not written, written is liable, so if u think that Sele is a middle school child, i think u should look at urself first, cause u dont know ur defitions, hence GO GET A EDUCATION! u might just turn out better.
#893 Nov 15 2006 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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written is libel


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#894 Nov 15 2006 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
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thanks for the fix.
#895 Nov 15 2006 at 8:57 PM Rating: Decent
Me fail english? That's unpossible!

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GO GET AN EDUCATION
Fixed this for you.^^

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ooz ur a dumba$$, Slander is Spoken, not written, written is liable, so if u think that Sele is a middle school child, i think u should look at urself first, cause u dont know ur defitions, hence GO GET A EDUCATION!

And only 7 commas in this sentence; impressive.

Whether forums meet the neccessary requirements of "published material" to justify libel or not, is a case by case situation. As forums constitute opinioniative statements and not reviewed published work. But I see your point. I should have just said "defamation."

Damnit Gamion wheres my ninja edit!

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#896REDACTED, Posted: Nov 16 2006 at 3:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Kichii is a stupid ***** without a life anyways, everyone in anbu who actually helps her get stuff is a big idiot.
#897 Nov 16 2006 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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Damnit Gamion wheres my ninja edit!


Sorry, your post was too long for me to bother fixing all the way, I am a really lazy person sometimes haha. You can have this though:

*Ninja Pantses Steal!*

>>Runs away laughing gleefully<<
#898 Nov 16 2006 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
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GTC wrote:
ooz ur a dumba$$, Slander is Spoken, not written, written is liable, so if u think that Sele is a middle school child, i think u should look at urself first, cause u dont know ur defitions, hence GO GET A EDUCATION! u might just turn out better.

Wow arguing snytax in the internet.....

I want to put Kotum (rdm) on this list. I broke out my thf after semi-retiring it till i had a stylet (yay!) and was lvling brd for a while. At the time there was 3 rdms seeking but I had known Kotum a while back and figured could count on him. I had everything set with a rng, war, rdm, whm, and thf. Just needed a tank we were ready to go. Well lo and behold a nin flgs and I invite him. Right when we are about to set out Kotum "dissconnects". Me and all the party members wait and wait for him to come back but he never does.

Eventually we try getting another rdm or brd but it was no use. Spent a whole hour doing absolutly nothing but typing "/sea all inv 73-75" repeatingly hoping that a dispeler would pop up.

Is it that hard to just say "Sorry guys i have something to take care of" instead of being a coward and bailing out? Just a sentance like that could've saved everyone that time while i got one of the other rdms.....

How did you get to 75 without knowing that 5 other ppl depend on you?
#899 Nov 16 2006 at 6:52 PM Rating: Decent
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want to put Kotum (rdm) on this list. I broke out my thf after semi-retiring it till i had a stylet (yay!) and was lvling brd for a while. At the time there was 3 rdms seeking but I had known Kotum a while back and figured could count on him. I had everything set with a rng, war, rdm, whm, and thf. Just needed a tank we were ready to go. Well lo and behold a nin flgs and I invite him. Right when we are about to set out Kotum "dissconnects". Me and all the party members wait and wait for him to come back but he never does.

Eventually we try getting another rdm or brd but it was no use. Spent a whole hour doing absolutly nothing but typing "/sea all inv 73-75" repeatingly hoping that a dispeler would pop up.

Is it that hard to just say "Sorry guys i have something to take care of" instead of being a coward and bailing out? Just a sentance like that could've saved everyone that time while i got one of the other rdms.....

How did you get to 75 without knowing that 5 other ppl depend on you?



If his ISP went out. Or his power went off, or many other things...How do you know it didnt think you depended on him. I mean really.


Did he LOGOUT...or did he really d/c. Theres not enough information to Put him on the "List of Bad Players". He could have honestly lost connection, comp ***** up, or ISP problems.

I've had my ISP play games with me 2 minutes before getting to that fire crystal thingy for the ZM in ifirits Cld. And I couldnt getback on for like 4 hours.
#900 Nov 17 2006 at 8:31 AM Rating: Decent
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EarthSage wrote:


If his ISP went out. Or his power went off, or many other things...How do you know it didnt think you depended on him. I mean really.


Did he LOGOUT...or did he really d/c. Theres not enough information to Put him on the "List of Bad Players". He could have honestly lost connection, comp ***** up, or ISP problems.

I've had my ISP play games with me 2 minutes before getting to that fire crystal thingy for the ZM in ifirits Cld. And I couldnt getback on for like 4 hours.
You're right, I just got pissed and frustrated. I shouldn't bad mouth someone just because of possible hardware difficulties. Me and Kotum be quite friendly to eachother, it was irrational of me to doubt him just because of one infraction. I think was just so frustrated with the whole situation and just needed to vent, alas this is not the place for that. I apologize.
#901 Nov 18 2006 at 9:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Vampyre, the galka PLD

When we first arrived to camp at KRT, our thf pulled a link beetles by mistake, you konw the mistake. The whole PT was trying to save the link, rdm was sleeping, I(sam) was voking add, and whm was curing everyone etc.. everyone was trying to do the job to prevent wipe.

This idiot Galka paladin did nothing. He stood there no provoke, no flash, no cure.. just watch us wiping. Then switch his sword to warp club and warp out after we wiped, disband without saying anything.

I sent him /tell asked him why he did that? He made excuses saying pt was foolish that he didnt want to waste his time working with us. So I told him to stfu and drop his elitest attitude becaues he werent even uber.

Lastly, I told him "if you care about your exp so much that you are afraid to die, maybe you should quit PLD." Then he said my input is not required... =/

Anyway dont pt with this guy, he doesnt want to do any teamwork and hes full of himself.



Edited, Nov 18th 2006 at 10:10pm PST by Invoky
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