Players to Watch Out For - Discussion ThreadFollow

As per Nightsintodreams' excellent suggestion, please take any argument spawned by a mention in the Players to Watch Out For thread to this one, so we can try to keep board spam and thread spam to a minimum.

Ah, crap on a crap cracker, I completely forgot about your having volunteered to host it in your journal again. >< I'm so smrt. Anyhoo, hmm. Go ahead and put it back in your journal, but see if you can get the post with the link stickied or something - otherwise it'll crash onto page 5 and people will end up starting their own new threads and it'll be chaos again.

{Please forgive me.}

Then there might be a problem keeping it around. :/ I dunno, people are already starting to ***** and moan about the other ones so... meh. No use trying to impose order around here. :P Might just have to keep bumping this one.

Hey everyone! I'm new to FFXI... well I've only been playing a couple of weeks. My character before Omniscient was named Zyphear but I wanted a Taru mage instead of a Hume. I just wanted to say hi to everyone on the boards. I have a lot of free time at work and I am constantly reading on here. I havent posted on the boards yet but I'm going to start! Zyphear is a 18war/15mnk.. but I am going to level him as a thf for farming purposes.. I will be logged on most of the time as Omniscient who is currently a level 8blm. Hopefully I will see some of you online!

bump ^^ page 3.

/ja "Bump" <t>
Taliph's Bump skill raises .3
Taliph's Bump skill raises to 6

keepin it at the top, or near ^_^

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had to rate up all relevant posts... better then seeing a good idea die

Edited, Sat Nov 6 00:26:53 2004 by taliph

Again, gotta thank you guys who are keeping an eye out and posting this thread when it's needed. Unfortunately, no one ever bothers using it. /sigh

For my part, I'll endeavor to bump this thread more often.

There's nothing to discuss because people keep clogging up the sister thread with stuff that should go here, primarily because we have been neglegent in bumping it.

-_-

That's dependant entirely on two things.

1) Whether the order you try to establish seriously benefits a community, or is just ****, and

2) How you go about trying to provide order.

To #2, dogged preserverance is best, at the end of the day.

And to #1, you have never struck me as ****, Byaina.

Rate up.

Byaina, I ask your pardon, I'm going to hijack this exactly once. I give you my promise I will not hijack it with this conversation further without your leave. But I feel the following needs to be said.

I'm rating down the post I've quoted above, and here is why.

It shows a complete disregard for several facts, as well as an exageration of the state of several situations.

A wide number of people use both lists, far more than 5, as you stipulated. I see no cause to go and count, but the threads are free and available for anyone curious enough to count the various posters.

Actual reading of the posts in each show a number of things.

By and large the bad players list is NOT a place of gossip. The word gossip carries the conotation of being full of half-truths and exagerations. What occurs in that thread is people relating their bad experiences, generally following strict rules set up by Byaina and well-enforced by a variety of posters. It is generally orderly, and provides members of this community with some warning regarding players, and explanations as to why. In my opinion it has rarely been anything but polite, except in extreme cases.

Regarding the good player threads, there have been cases of back-patting I will admit, but a large number of those listed there are not members of this community, and would probably be very surprised to find that people they've helped have appreciated it to the extent that they broadcast it to their community.

Both serve useful functions which I think benefit our community as a whole.

At the very least I see no reason for you to be irritated to such an extreme regarding them. If you do not like them, simply avoid them. No one is forcing you to click on them.

Regarding the bumping of this thread, it's done in an attempt to keep seperate the actual list of bad players, and any arguements that may develope from the list. As such I applaud you for posting here.

However your post was rude and scathing to the community at large, erroneous to a large extent, and carries an elitest attitude which I personally do not appreciate, as a member of this community. Hence the rate down.

Regarding spam, if this were the tradeskill, job, or race forums I could understand irritation at what you term spam. I just fail to see how it applies to a message board which serves as a place of general communication between members of a community.

This forum's sole purpose is for Bismarckians to communicate. If they chose to talk about a wide range of topics, full of tangents and inconsequential posts, then that is the community-at-large's perogative.

Regarding my own posts, I see little reason to defend myself, as I have no real interest in trying to persuade you of my own usefulness to this community. Besides, that's not really my call.

However I will say that at the very least your knowledge of my posts is remarkably incomplete. I recommend you do some research into all the various types of post I've made before accusing me of rendering nothing but spam in my contributions to this community.

You seem unhappy with this forum Bowser.

Your anger and flaming, especially with inaccurate information as supporting documentation, will do nothing to change it.

I freely offer you this advice: Accept the forum how it is, work to change those things you don't like through patience, reason, and polite words. Or leave.

Understand, I am not asking you to leave. I really could care less. But if you are that displeased with it and see no reason to stay other than to provide flames (which certainly do nothing to better the forum by the standards you seem to have), then I suggest you leave and find a forum in which you feel more at home.

But in the meantime, drop the damned attitude and quit the flaming. It's rude, it's immature, and it only makes those things you dislike about this forum worse in the long run.

Hey look Nataraja, rate down, and it wasn't even me. Seems like half your so called arguments are personal attacks, the very thing you're accusing me of. Hey you just rated me down, and explained why too. Well I didn't even care enough rate you down cause apparently some other people got annoyed at your irrelevant garbage posts already. "Excuse me I'm gonna hi jack this thread to talk about what I had for breakfast." "I would like to make a thread thanking the Alla forum for making my life happy".

You never wondered why you have to keep pumping this thread up? no matter what the reason was, people are still not using it. Who died and made you policeman of the forum? Your attempt to "clean up the board" apparently doesn't work so drop it. It gets so damn annoying when I keep seeing you post such useless things, and apparently I'm not the only one. Why don't you just go play the game already instead filling your forum post counts with 2 words posts.

You don't care about your karma ratings? well apparently you do seeing as you've made a whole thread about it. Well wouldn't you have gotten a clue already why people are rating you down? If I dislike the forum so much why don't I just leave? well because before people like you turn it into a crapload of irrelevant rants there were actually something useful around. Now you guys pat each other on the back so much I'm seeing red all over the damn place. Being a sage have realy lost its significant. Go ahead, tell me you don't care about your karma. I'm not gonna bother rating you down, other people are already doing it. Now go make some feel good suck up thread thanking the Forum again so they'll rate you back up.


Edited, Wed Dec 1 20:58:12 2004 by Bowser

I don't know if my rating allows me to rate other people but in any event Bowser I am rating you down for Douchebaggery (new word !?!?)

Why, because you are making an *** of yourself.
Nata you get a rate-up for effort and for what you are trying to accomplish here.


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