Too all Windower users..Follow

well actually i do play the game, but i also have a job that i work 40 hours a week, so i hang out here, and on my LS forums while i am not helping customers..

Hahah that's funny the sad thing is he could have said yes to seeing other pt members tp, since that's all the windower does, you know those macros we all use to share our tp lol.

On a side note what i find most pathetic is that someone else created a plug-in for the windower mentioned that solves a problem SMNs have long had with FFXI which is knowing what your blood pact recast timer is at without having an avatar out. Quite sad that some person(s) out of boredom and sheer desire to help others solves a problem over 2years old, and SE hasn't done it yet.

If a windower gets caught, "goodie for them". I hope they get whats comming to them.

SE has made it very clear any 3rd party program is ILLEGAL. Cry my a river if you get caught using one cuz I know you know it was illegal.

Also, I use PS2 and these windowers give people an advantage over us.


kthx

Windower leads the way for people to use hacks. People without windower are not able to minimize the game so no way other should be able to.

Someone else in the household using the comp? Get a new one, can't afford it? Sucks to be you. No matter how you look at it the Windower allows PC users to do exactly what the PS2 users can do, only for PS2 users it's legal and for PC users it's illegal? *********

Oh and don't try to use the TP and Bloodpact **** as an arguement against me. Those plugins are no longer on my comp simply because I have absolutely no use for them and hence I deleted the .dlls.

Windower does not lead to the use of hacks, granted it might make it a tad easier for the technologically challenged people to start up their bots and ****. But guess what, with half a brain you could probably easily start that **** up without the windower aswell.

And no, the Windower is not a "cheat" device. It simply allows people who have stuff they need to do on their comp to do it while they are standing LFG in Jeuno for 8 hours straight.

Go home trolls, the windower is in no way an unfair advantage. OH MY GOD, I CAN LOOK AT WEBSITES AND READ THE NEWS WHILE PLAYING! NERF!

Please.

It's not a matter of being lazy, it's a matter of practicality. Tmep logging in the middle of a party to glance at the news between pulls. Yeah that's bound to go down well with the party, or maybe not?

If you think I'm calling people poor then so be it, I merely said if people can't afford a PC to use besides their PS2 while playing this game it's not my problem. I have a working computer and as such should not have to get yet ANOTHER one to do stuff on the web just because SE has their panties in a bunch and wax shoved up their ears and refuse to listen to customers.

Does SE promote the use of 3rd party software? No, they don't.

Does SE explicitly state in the Member agreement that 3rd party software is forbidden? No, they don't. You know why? Because that would be like saying that the PC users can't run MS Windows because that could be considered 3rd party software. It's an OS yes, but it's first and foremost software that is not part of FFXI's coding.

And I don't exactly see SE cracking down on people for using Ventrilo or TeamSpeak, that's as much of a 3rd party software as the Windower, the Windower doesn't interrupt gameplay in any way.

Yeah, I'm going to go farm for 8 hours instead. I'm a WHM why don't I go farm Tiny Mandragora's in E.Saru hmm? Because that's so productive.

In the words of Qinyydar: kthxbai!

PS: Guess when I'm writing this response to you hmm? Wonderful helper this thing isn't it?



Edited, Fri Jul 8 13:29:55 2005 by Tyraelle

Bets... analogy.. ever! :p

Look, the short, short answer is simply this:

Windower does not send any data to SE whatsoever. It only affects things on your local machine. SE cannot detect or do anything about it unless they have undeniable proof that you are using it (i.e. mentioning it in /p or /l chat or in a tell).

So, just keep your damn traps shut about the fact that you're using the windower and you'll be fine.

As far as the morality of the situation is concerned, it's a fu[b][/b]cking game! Get over it.

--Arondight, Bismarck

*cheers*

If I'm a very ignorant person then what does that make you Mr."Windower-leads-to-hacks" hmm?

Don't open your mouth unless you have a point to make. Goodbye.

By saying that the Windower leads to hacking, they mean that's it's much easier to hack with a windower on that without it. For debutant hackers, a windower can be really handful, if they don't know how to minimize the game without crashing it, so they can run their packets editor and such tools to find a way to hack.

Oh, and no offense, but I had to say something about this :



At least when you temp log in a PT, it's usually for something important, and the PT knows that you aren't there anymore. But if you read or work on something else beside the PT, even between pulls, the PT doesn't know you aren't alert and attentive. You can miss important things, or forget something...

Anyway, yeah a windower allows some "good" players to get some handful tools, but there still are "bad" players who will use it to hack, and anyway it's forbidden by the ToS. Punishing people without a warning is quite strict, but I guess they really want to get rid of these 3rd party hacks and such things.

Edited, Fri Jul 8 15:26:23 2005 by Freyir

Why dont you go by your own logic and buy a PS2 so you can use your comp and play at the same time.