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Things don't seem that bad

Edited, Sat Dec 17 01:14:05 2005 by Balgareth

You have to admit though, if we had decent inventory space (enough so that it would be a real possibility to hoard multiple stacks of crafting materials for future use), people wouldn't have to sell the materials they've obtained in whatever way only to buy it back later at a possibly higher price...

The game will eventually be unplayable unless you buy gil or camp NMs and actually get lucky with the low drop rates and all the gilsellers. The more people that reach lv75, the worse things will be. Things were great when hardly anyone at reached that far. Now since everyone has reached 75, joined HNM shells, gotten lots of gil (unless they're in those certain ones that stash the items in a bank collecting dust instead of selling them), taken up crafting, and leveling other jobs.

Truth, truth, truth. SE thought they were saving their game by lowering the XP requirements for leveling, but they just accelerated its death.

With all due respect Ayrilana, is it not the point of Final Fantasy XI to level your jobs, get money, and whatever else you desire?

My point is, people aren't going to bend backwards and not level their crafting for the servers economy. The economy is based strictly on the prices that people choose for their items. Whether or not people get lvl 75 and craft does affect what items they obtain, but not the prices that the items receive.

AMEN BROTHA!!!! Dude, I feel ur pain. I think we are starting to feel the pain.

My highest job is 37 War. Around level 34 I noticed I was having trouble keeping up in the tp race for SC's. So I checked the ah for some gear. Venerer Ring +3 ACC level 33 huh? That looks like my answer. I know it can be quested but I don't have an COP missions done. The going price was 330k. I had about 200k at the time so I got a tele-mea and farmed 2 stacks of silk. My silk was all sold by the next morning, but the 5 Venerer rings that were up on the ah were also sold ; ;

No biggie, I'll just buy one tomorrow or the next day. There were more up on the ah the next day but the price junmped to 550k. Now I'm not a Mathist but that seems like a large mark up on the other days price. I did the drain quest that night and sold the scroll so that I could pick up the ring before the price jumped agian.

That was a week ago. I don't know if the price went up or back down, but maybe I should have taken my ls mate up on his offer to borrow me the gil when it was 300k >.<

Not really a rant... more of a story.... GO BASTOK!!

Edited, Mon Dec 26 15:37:52 2005 by Malkov

Simple solution to a growing problem.

Simple stop buying stuff for about 3 weeks, tax alone will hurt these people who shove the item's up on the AH.

But people would have to agree to this, so it would be harder to do this.

But at the end you know prices will drop, because you know each time that item is not sold they have to shove it back on for another tax and they will grow tired of it force these bastards to lower the price.

hi everyone

this is really a big problem , even for me ( crafting almost all the time )
its really hard going more inside the game , lvling another job , or even doing a mission ( i mean even Hi-potions are for 10 k now XD )
the most i had in this game was 4.4 mil ( tree cuttings farming when it was 100k/stack ) but now 600k ( ty lvling RNG idea ;-;)
but its really hard to get any good item to lvl ny job , i mean even for me (THF75) i should go change from DRK ( that what i'm lvling now ) into thf then go farm using shihei (15k/stack now )and bloody bolts (10k/stack) for 2-4 hours when you can make your pt with your curret job and lvl it more...

ok thats me having a farming job ... but talking bout anyone just started the game , cutting = sucks if you farm them in rolanberry feild (sp?) also silk in lower lvl area accessable by lower lvl jobs

i think SE should flood the market with items , the price will go down sure (supply and demand), not with very very low price but reasonable one "ÿes, please"

that what i think and i aways place single items for less price to let them sell faster

hope this $h*t end fast XD

No, i doubt it will end either...but when is it too much?
It has to peak somewhere does it not? Like seriously.

Within a day Amemet Skin has went from 1.3 mil, which is to god damn much, to now, where some piece of **** sold 3 of them for 2 mil each. Like Christ people, With people buying this **** for these kind of prices, to greedy people taking advantage of this, were digging our own graves for this game. Ive been at this game for a while, and ive never seen such greed like this at any point in time. I never thought id do it, but i quit. All im doing now, instead of giving my **** away, for people to mess with the economy more so, im spendin all the gil i have on crafts, then im going to give my chars away, both with a 100 craft to use...

And back to WoW i go. (bring on the rate downs suckas)


Edited, Fri Dec 30 16:23:04 2005 by Mastra

problem is easy fixed.. just boycott certain items.. if you dont buy an item for an enormous amount of money, the price cant rise any more. can only decrease with people's impatience. stop looking to SE to solve our problems we made it, we should be able to fix it.

Was having a quick look at the black magic scrolls list tonight.

Stonega II: 600k (What the..??)
Quake: 1 million (...)
Sleepga II: 2 million (........)
Burst: 150k (20k 2 weeks ago)

Also i have noted this several times: If a particular scroll (or item) is out of stock, the next person to put one on the Auction House will put it on for at least 10% more. This never used to happen! What is going on!? Can't people just think "No i'm not willing to pay 600k for a spell im never going to use" and use their gil on something more sensible? Stop paying these prices for items that really are NOT worth it!

Peacock Charm - 31 million. 11 million up in 2 weeks. Record i think.

Kuja

I think it's naive to blame this recent price explosion on player greed. Why exactly would all the players decide to be greedy all at the same time? There's always greed, but normal greed stabilizes prices pretty well- greedy people charge more, and other greedy people undercut them to sell faster and cut those overchargers out of the market. Things go up gradually little by litte, they don't multiply by factors of 100 in three weeks under normal greedy conditions.

I don't know what has happened, but it's SOMETHING. It is most certainly not nothing, it's not business as usual. A huge push by every major RMT company following the last update could explain it. Maybe they think their days are numbered, or maybe they want to punish SE for adding a lot of anti-bot code. Those are both a bit far fetched, but something on that order would be necessary to see the massive concerted inflation.

And another thing- it's inflation, not robbery. I'm not an economist and don't want to be labeled as one, but what it means is that money on the whole is worth less. Your gear costs more, but chances are your moneymaking scheme gets you more too. For me, anyway, my craft which used to get me 200k max per day now can get me 400k-600k per day easy. And it doesn't just go for people who have a craft, even your poor bottom-rung farmers are making more, since their drops can sell higher.

The only people that inflation is really bad for is those who were sitting on large fortunes already. If you have 60 million gil and think you no longer have to make money ever again, then your 60 mil suddenly has the purchasing power of 30 mil from two weeks ago, you're bound to be pissed. I feel your pain. I'm not trying to say that inflation doesn't matter, it definitely causes harship for poor people too, but all in all nothing changes.