Seems like RMTers are invading social LSsFollow

Luckyek's in Project Mayhem as well, Pixma doesn't drop by as often anymore. As a matter of fact, they're both really friendly, and also helpful. They don't speak a whole lot of English, but they seem to have some pleasant conversations with a member in our Linkshell who's been studying Chinese for a bit.

Sure, you may be all "omg but they sell gil", but that doesn't mean they're not people or anything. Hell, far as I'm concerned, the problem's the buyers moreso than the sellers. Not to mention, it's yet to be proven that they actually sell gil. I wouldn't be surprised, honestly, but the whole stereotyping Chinese players thing is pretty low. Especially when you don't have proof of them all being sellers, unless, of course, you've bought from them. lol

But yeah, point being, I'm the leader of the shell. They both asked me for pearls, and Pixma and Luckyek are a better WHM and NIN than most of the WHM and NINs I've seen on this game after having played... way too long. It's not an "invasion" of any kind. I let them in, and I don't have a problem with it.

So go ahead, rate me down for treating everyone the same until given reason to do otherwise lol, whatever. Still, I must say, if you want to pinpoint a major problem, like you probably think you're doing right now, how about you make a list of all the buyers in Linkshells. Even though, I assume that must be a bit tougher, seeing as you don't have just one race to point the finger at.

I agree...most of em are really nice and friendly too...
if you can actually get em to chat...

But from everything I've read most of the chinese players are
actually "working" when they play...so its not really their
fault...I can understand completely that one must do what one must
do to survive...I have no problem with them...but as with any group
there are good ones and bad...don't let an unpleasant experience taint
your opinion of em all ^^


~Halfadude~

Would this sign happen to be the fact that Chinese is their primary language, and they get more claims than you? lol

lol, how ya figure? You trying to say that Chinese players joining other LS'es is an ulterior motive to... what? Taking over the server? lmao, okay. Rather be called delusional than close-minded.

As long as they continue being as friendly and as helpful as they've been thus far, I don't have any issues with 'em. Don't see why anyone would really. I've heard all the reasons before, just never held enough weight for me to treat them different than anyone else. I've met plenty of dirtbags playing this game lol, and Lucky, Pixma and anyone else you believe sells gil, are the least of your worries :)

lol

They bot, and cheat, enough said.

The fact they are RMT, meh...I know some NA people who have sold gil and made a ****** of RL money. Now the fact they sell gil for thier job you can be 100% certain they bot...if u did this for a living and didn't bot your just plain dumb.


Also, often some will want some shells to have people help them kill something they couldnt do on their own, or maybe to help them by giving them some strats on certain NMs or how to better pull/make money from Dynamis Areas. The RMT were all over Heartless Requiem dynamis and when they got all their strats they wanted they no longer do dynamis with HR, but rather farm themselves in Sandy or something.

I can't say I'm not surprised over how much sympathy the RMTers are getting from this board. Anyone who's farms Sky, or items such as the Thief Knife will quickly grow hatred of them. It's obvious to see that anyone who can't recognize an RMTer within 3 seconds of seeing them simply isn't at a level where they would be a bother to them.

Of course, being outright told that they work for a gilselling company over /say is also a major hint, but lets just ignore that.

As far as being outclaimed, you can't even begin to tell me anything in regards to winning claim, not even what NM it is. Don't think you can say such useless, generalizing statements and considering yourself as to holding merit to anyone of decent intellect. You summed it up nicely with a quick 'lol' - an act frequently used by 13 year old AOL'ers.

As long as we're attacking each other, I'll throw my 2 cents on the table.

How much did your Osode cost?

I meant in US dollars.

By the same token, how much was your account?

Well, if the leader of the shell has no problem with it, then there's obviously not a problem. Why concern yourself over who's in what shell at any given time? If an RMT was in *your* shell, and by this I mean either you've been in it a long time or you started it yourself, then I could understand you being a tad miffed about it. But, if you have nothing to do with a shell suspected RMT'ers are in, then why go and post about it?

Also, there is no way to "invade" a shell. In order to get in a shell, someone must give a pearl to the person that wants in. It's not a free-for-all where certain shells are on a counter and people are grabbing as fast as they can. If someone gives suspected RMT players a pearl, that's their own business. And if that suspected RMT player is helpful and doesn't ***** the shell out of items or gil, then there really isn't much of a problem. Certainly not a problem for you anyway.


I agree with this. Just because the sellers post gil on a site doesn't mean people have to go and buy it.

If they aren't in your shell, then don't complain.

Loved that >_>

Quite frankly, and although I despise AOLese, that doesn't necessarily mean they're any less intelligent than the next guy. And you really shouldn't use it as an insult when many people on multiple occasions (as was noted in this very topic) have seen you yourself use it. That just doesn't make you appear quite intelligent yourself.

The RMTs have been significantly lowering prices on the AH for some items (especially mountain gaiters) because so many different groups camp the same items, and the supply goes so high the price falls. So from my perspective they've been saving me tons of cash. >_>

The problem is the buyers. NOT the sellers. For one simple reason:

If there were no buyers, there would be no sellers. There would be no market for them.

People argue that time and time again, but why would they farm it to sell it if no one was buying it?

That aside, what was the point of this topic? To rally troops against those LSs you mentioned? Or to try to incite more rage into a topic that could be debated until SE stopped supporting the game and nothing would come about it? It's not like FFXI is the only game that's ever seen them.

The majority of RMT on Bismarck are generally rude and impolite. This applies to the members of DragonGroup LS who've called me some choice words in Cantonese while camping Ulli against them. Not all are Chinese, however, but the majority of them are. However, not all of them are rude and impolite like those in DragonGroup.

For example, the last RMT I knew camped the Archer's Ring NM in Ordelles. This was the old "Tom" group years ago. This was a long time ago before SE changed the item on that NM. I forgot the guy's name now, but I learned some things about him. He told me there were two players playing his character, himself and another person, in two 12-hour shifts. Their boss is quite uncaring and insensitive from what I learned. The last time I spoke to him he told me that his boss would work them even if they had a fever or illness. He had a high fever when I last talked to him and was still working regardless how ill he felt. The reason he got the job was to help his family that worked on a farm outside of Hong Kong. He did tell me he does enjoy the game a lot and met a lot of great people, in his best English of course. However, he didn't like how other players treated him. He didn't like the rude and insulting remarks he recieved, and wished he could someday play the game just for fun without it. However, he doesn't play anymore now and it's been two years since I last talked to him.

There are RMT like him that are quite nice, but rare to come by. Then there are others like Hoodlam of DragonGroup that are just downright rude and impolite, and they come by the handful. In my chat LS of two years plus, BubuGary, I have two members as well that many have considered them as Gilsellers. But, they are two of the nicest people I've met in this game and have known them since I started. These two didn't start camping/hanging out with other Gilsellers in Kuftal Tunnel until a year ago. The other members of BubuGary don't like RMT-ers at all and we tend to make fun of them, including those that bot and cheat in this game. However, these two players are exception to the rule since they're just generally nice people.

The hard part is to get other players to stop with the stereotyping and try to be understanding. Not everyone is a Gilseller if they can't speak English perfectly. I do agree with Arel's and Deathblessing's replies. It's just like real life, sadly enough. We can't stop discriminating and stereotyping people in real life. If there are no one else to blame, we should blame those at the cause of the problem or ourselves even.

A lot of the problem doesn't have to do with Gilsellers alone, but Gilbuyers. Remember the Inflation of Christmas 2005? That was when Gilbuyers or players with too much Gil jacked up prices all across the AH. The problem now has more to do with Gilbuyers than Gilsellers. I hope that this Christmas that DOESN'T happen again. Otherwise, expect me to be really pissed off at the goddamn rich players or players with too much money on their hands in this server.

However, more and more Gilsellers are popping up everywhere with no end in sight. They have taken over the ground HNMs and Sky now. It makes farming in Sky a damn near impossible thing to do, and it's something I hate so much. I suppose that the end of this server is when they start selling Abjurations from the 3 major HNMs and Sea HNMs like on other servers.

These are the Gilsellers you should worry most about than those that are just in chat LSes, especially when they're just trying to enjoy the game.

That would be Jjay. Not Ihina.

I blame Gamion..cause he's my friend and he is half my size in RL

Random passerby, saw the topic title in the forum listing and it caught my eye.

I obviously know nothing about the players on this server so the statement I made is about the only statement I can make.